14:02:44 RRSAgent has joined #gld 14:02:44 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/06/14-gld-irc 14:02:46 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:02:48 Zakim, this will be GLD 14:02:48 ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started 14:02:49 Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference 14:02:49 Date: 14 June 2012 14:02:51 zakim, code? 14:02:51 the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2 14:03:00 +mhausenblas 14:03:06 + +1.978.352.aaee 14:03:17 +??P28 14:03:18 olyerickson has joined #gld 14:03:23 zakim, ??P28 is me 14:03:23 +PhilA2; got it 14:03:32 cygri has joined #gld 14:03:46 zakim, i'm with mhausenblas 14:03:47 +cygri; got it 14:03:53 +??P31 14:04:01 zakim, ??P31 is me 14:04:01 +boris; got it 14:04:07 zakim, who is here? 14:04:07 On the phone I see ??P0, +49.721.aaaa, +3539149aabb, George_Thomas, davidwood, +1.757.604.aacc, +1.202.566.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.978.352.aaee, PhilA2, boris 14:04:13 mhausenblas has cygri 14:04:15 On IRC I see cygri, olyerickson, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, boris, Mike_Pendleton, PhilA2, Zakim, George, atemezi, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, cgueret_work, mhausenblas, bhyland, 14:04:18 ... MacTed, sandro, trackbot 14:04:29 zakim, aacc is me. 14:04:29 +GeraldSteeman; got it 14:04:37 -??P0 14:04:52 PROPOSAL: accept minutes of 2012-05-31 meeting: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-05-31 14:04:53 +??P0 14:05:28 +1 14:05:36 Zakim, +35391 is me 14:05:36 +fadmaa; got it 14:05:40 +1 14:06:17 Phone problems will join in a little bit :( 14:06:38 http://www.springerlink.com/content/v45x551323v21536/ 14:07:47 tinagheen has joined #gld 14:07:58 @fadmaa is there a link to your presentation or paper? 14:08:13 +[LC] 14:08:30 zakim, [LC] is me 14:08:30 +tinagheen; got it 14:08:50 @fadmaa would you share the PDF with the members list please? 14:09:22 q+ 14:09:34 my slides is on: http://www.slideshare.net/fadimaali/selfservice-linked-government-data 14:09:44 +q 14:09:48 @bhyland sure will do 14:11:39 BenediktKaempgen: at ESWC 2012 there was some work similar to Data Cube vocabulary 14:11:40 Deirdre has joined #gld 14:11:53 ... but didn't use it, I pointed them to the work 14:12:03 +??P37 14:12:20 ... in general there was interest in statistical data at ESWC 14:12:21 zakim, ??p37 is me. 14:12:21 +olyerickson; got it 14:12:26 +q 14:12:36 acq bhyland 14:12:41 ack bhyland 14:12:45 ack BenediktKaempgen 14:12:46 ESWC12 link is here http://2012.eswc-conferences.org/ 14:12:52 q+ 14:12:58 atemezi has joined #gld 14:13:13 ack me 14:13:21 http://data-forum.eu/ 14:13:37 mhausenblas: reporting on data-forum.eu 14:13:44 + +3539149aaff 14:13:55 ... there was a mix of academic and industry focusing on big data 14:14:18 ... sildes and video will be soon made available summarising the event 14:14:54 s/sildes/slides 14:15:17 Pointers regarding ESWC and QB: 1) Best demo award: Heiko Paulheim. Generating Possible Interpretations for Statistics from Linked Open Data. 2) Alon Halevy: Fusion Tables and Retrieving Information from Web Tables 3) Christoph Lange, Patrick Ion, Anastasia Dimou, Charalampos Bratsas, Wolfram Sperber, Michael Kohlhase and Ioannis Antoniou. Getting Mathematics Towards the Web of Data: the Case of the Mathematics Subject Classification. 4) Cube-Paper not 14:15:27 ... there is a demand on processing big data 14:15:48 ... but I sensed a need about standardizing the published data 14:15:54 ... I presented related work there 14:16:38 Nigel Shadbolt @ESWC 2012 emphasized importance of policy and describing new use cases and describing benefits. 14:17:16 I'd just add that the data Forum was a well organised and very interesting event. Shadbolt's speech was very good I thought 14:17:48 fadmaa: at ESWC the vast majority were academic 14:17:59 ESWC 2012 attendance was about 250, mostly academic per Fadi 14:18:09 mhausenblas: ad the data-forum wasn't the case that majority were academic 14:18:21 q? 14:18:29 ... there was a good mix of both academic and industry ~ fifty-fifty roughly 14:18:29 Data Forum EU was 50/50 academe / industry 14:19:10 George: talking about health Datapalooza 14:19:30 ... http://www.hdiforum.org/ 14:20:05 ... it is an event bringing open government data to innovator and private sector to help health-related initiatives in teh US 14:20:23 48 people first year, 1600 plus waiting list this year 14:20:23 Topic: Health Datapalooza AKA HDI Forum III facilitated by Todd Park, US Federal CTO 14:20:26 MacTed has joined #gld 14:20:55 Link to the main conference site: http://www.hdiforum.org/ 14:21:16 George: a clear need to better data practices when it comes to innovation in health related issues 14:21:43 ... our contribution is publishing health data with the intention of making them all available as Linked Data 14:22:45 ... people are invited to innovate on presenting the catalogue available. the GLD work on vocabularies is related 14:23:08 ... a total of 35k is awarded to the three best works 14:23:30 ... a second challenge is related to innovate with Open ID 14:23:45 ... feedback is welcomed 14:24:04 http://www.healthdata.gov/developer-challenges-overview 14:24:35 Link to George's presentation on healthdata.gov challenges overview, see http://www.healthdata.gov/blog/healthdatagov-now-next-and-challenges 14:24:42 q? 14:24:53 q+ 14:24:59 ack bhyland 14:25:25 http://challenge.gov/ONC/374-health-data-platform-metadata-challenge 14:25:43 http://www.healthdata.gov/developer-challenges-overview 14:25:46 bhyland: you gave a presentation there... I'd be interested to know about the challenge faced in teh project (not the challenge competition) 14:25:53 http://www.healthdata.gov/blog/platform-challenge-1-simplified-sign 14:26:17 Health TechTalk, April 16, 2012, see http://www.hhs.gov/open/discussion/newhealthdataresource.html 14:26:17 Report by George Thomas, Chief Architect, Office of the CIO; David Forrest, Healthdata.gov Lead Project Manager; Todd Park, US Chief Technology Officer 14:26:17 Building a new health data resource: healthdata.gov Version 2.0 14:26:45 bhyland: An interesting series of videos about personal health recently made available and George took part there 14:26:55 ... and talked about Linked Data and API. 14:26:58 Todd Park => "CTO of the United States" 14:27:31 ... It was excellent and interesting to see a senior person (Todd Park => "CTO of the United States") talking about 14:27:41 ... machine-readable data and API 14:27:50 ... great to have George participating there 14:28:51 George: we are interested in continuously enriching the data... looking at CKAN, Linked Data Integration framework, etc... input very welcomed 14:30:32 This is a huge milestone for US Gov't and people working to support 4-5 star LOD 14:30:50 George talking about SemTech now 14:31:00 Topic: SemTech 2012 SF, see minutes http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-swcg-minutes.html 14:31:09 George: minute from the semantic web "session" is available 14:31:39 bhyland: attendance were down about 30 % 14:32:08 ... Oracle and IBM presented ther. they are supporting Linked Data Pattern WG 14:32:44 Link to the GLD WG's talk "Progress Report" is here, http://www.slideshare.net/3roundstones/progress-update-on-government-linked-data-world 14:33:01 ... the GLD talk which is a progress report: http://www.slideshare.net/3roundstones/progress-update-on-government-linked-data-world 14:33:13 Zakim, mute me 14:33:13 fadmaa should now be muted 14:33:24 bhyland: around 40 person attended 14:33:41 Panel on Linked Enterprise Data Patterns, David Wood, Arnaud le Hors, Ashok Malhotra 14:33:43 ... a very good number 14:33:49 ... and a very good feedback 14:34:06 ... 100k USD challenge regarding Big Data was announced 14:34:07 Yarc Data announced $100k challenge, see http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/yarcdata-announces-100000-big-data-graph-analytics-challenge-nasdaq-cray-1665268.htm 14:34:39 bhyland: a panel on schema.org had a large crowd 14:34:48 Panel schema.org very well attended, almost keynote crowd: Ivan Herman, World Wide Web Consortium 14:34:48 Alexander Shubin, Yandex 14:34:48 Dan Brickley, Schema.org at Google 14:34:48 Evan Sandhaus, New York Times Company 14:34:48 Jeffrey W. Preston, Disney Interactive Media Group 14:34:48 John Giannandrea, Google 14:34:50 Peter Mika, Yahoo! 14:34:52 R.V. Guha, Google 14:34:54 Steve Macbeth, Microsoft 14:36:16 http://www.slideshare.net/owensacco/towards-patient-controlled-privacy 14:36:32 http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/pcast-health-it-report.pdf 14:36:43 'data element access services' 14:36:49 George: Owen Sacco from DERI gave a presentation titled "Towards Patient Controlled Privacy" a collaboration between DERI and HCLS. combine Linked Data and privacy 14:37:53 ... it is mainly about controlling access to private and personal Linked Data 14:38:26 EurekaBox?!?!? 14:39:01 uRiKA 14:39:39 q+ 14:39:44 uRiKA mentioned in Yarc announcement http://mwne.ws/LH0rYq 14:40:19 George: talked about processing big graph together with Linked Data API and privacy aware access 14:40:24 About uRiKA:"...YarcData's uRiKA system is a Big Data appliance for graph analytics. uRiKA helps enterprises reveal unknown, unexpected or hidden relationships in Big Data by creating a highly-scalable, real-time graph analytics warehouse that supports ad hoc queries, pattern-based searches, inferencing and deduction..." 14:41:39 bhyland: looking at Owen's slides and see MySQL together with Sesame. any reason for having the both? 14:42:08 George: the intention is to integrate with Linked Data API. the current implementation is just a prototype 14:42:40 o 14:43:43 olyerickson: access control and writing management is an issue that was interesting from the early days of the Semantic Web 14:44:03 ... it is fascinating to see these are revised with Linked Data in the health care domain 14:44:10 q? 14:44:14 ack me 14:45:04 @george, a blog post by you and/or Owen about the value of a LD approach for patient rights management would be extremely helpful .... 14:45:11 George: FYI, an extension to schema.org a datasets extension is proposed 14:45:25 http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets 14:45:28 @bhyland - indeed, will work on that :) 14:46:00 olyerickson: the process of extending schema.org is to define a domain-specific vocabulary proposal 14:46:25 ... on a Wiki to have a discussion. Firstly, in private and the there is a public discussion 14:46:35 q+ to note implications of Schema.org extensions 14:46:45 ... if theres is no objection it has the potential to be part of the schema.org 14:47:11 olyerickson: the current extension developed by folks at RPI is currently under discussion 14:47:28 ... it is a subset of DCAT 14:47:31 ack me 14:47:31 mhausenblas, you wanted to note implications of Schema.org extensions 14:47:42 Is anyone else having trouble reaching the w3.org/wiki ? 14:47:50 mhausenblas: gret job by RPI. good that you mapped the extension to DCAT 14:47:58 s/gret/great/ 14:48:48 mhausenblas: if the extension gets accepted, then the consortium behind schema.org 14:49:03 ... adopts the terms. which is a very good thing 14:49:15 q+ 14:49:23 akim, unmute me 14:49:26 q? 14:49:38 Zakim, unmute me 14:49:38 fadmaa should no longer be muted 14:49:38 @mhausenblas thanks! 14:49:57 @fadmaa thanks! 14:50:55 fadmaa: Googe point w.r.t. potential for confusion 14:51:48 Yep 14:51:51 George: we will discuss this on the call on 28 14:52:10 ... we got feedback from Rufus Pollock from CKAN which is great 14:52:27 Zakim, mute me 14:52:27 fadmaa should now be muted 14:52:46 George: I also reached out to Edd summer we will hopefully get his comments related to DCAT 14:53:10 zakim, who is talking? 14:53:26 bhyland, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (6%), George_Thomas (76%) 14:53:57 q? 14:54:25 http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/dublin-workshop/dublin-cfp 14:54:30 +1 to ridiculous numbers of events... 14:54:30 PhilA2 reporting on multilingual web project in Dublin 14:54:30 Michael: Regrets in advance for 28 June, I'm on travel and hence not able to join 14:54:54 PhilA2: it is EU funded project and the topic is related to the work this WG is pursuing regarding interoperability 14:54:56 Topic: Multilingual Web, see http://www.multilingualweb.eu/en/about-the-project 14:55:06 The preso on Multilingual was superb 14:55:33 PhilA2: an interesting talk about best practices design of URIs quoting bhyland 's work 14:56:10 q+ 14:56:19 The work of the MultilingualWeb initiative is being driven by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), an organization of around 400 member organizations worldwide from research and industry, headed by the Web's inventor, Sir Tim Berners-Lee. It is supported with funding from the European Commission. 14:56:27 ... there is a possibility of collaboration work there. they showed interest in the work of GLD 14:56:36 ack me 14:56:43 Zakim, ack me 14:56:43 I see Deirdre on the speaker queue 14:57:25 q+ 14:57:36 ack Deirdre 14:57:36 Deirdre: the NLP unit in DERI was involved in the multilingual event and we have good connection with them 14:58:14 Michael: OK, I gotta run now, sorry & cya all soon again 14:58:17 -mhausenblas 14:58:19 EU Monnet project: http://www.monnet-project.eu/Monnet/Monnet/English?init=true 14:58:37 bhyland: GLD working group is getting very good attention 14:58:38 http://www.slideshare.net/jelabra/best-practices-for-multilingual-linked-open-data 14:58:38 "Best Practices for Multilingual Linked Open Data", Jose Emilo Labra Gayo, Given at W3c Workshop on Multilingual Web, Dublin, 11 June, 2012 14:59:03 PhilA2: Was that the one? It is an excellent preso... 14:59:13 .. it is a good thing but we have to move on and deliver the results 14:59:26 ... especially in proceeding with vocabularies 14:59:34 yes, olyerickson, that was the one - it was very good 14:59:50 Yes it was; Note esp. their notion of modelling resources, not labels --- introducing a layer of abstraction, enabling equivalent language manifestations to be added (@en, @es, etc) 15:00:01 bhyland: next week meeting will focus on best practices 15:00:04 q? 15:00:04 q+ 15:00:20 -tinagheen 15:00:23 Ah yes, Brussels! 15:00:28 ack me 15:00:38 PhilA2: LOL! 15:00:38 ack Deirdre 15:00:55 PhilA2: a number of events are taking place in Brussel next week 15:01:11 ... conference on ADMS, a workshop on consuming linked data 15:01:54 http://ec.europa.eu/isa/events/2012/0618_semic_2012_en.htm 15:01:58 workshop on consuming Linked Data http://www.w3.org/2012/06/pmod/ 15:01:59 SEMIC 2012 15:02:16 All events that I'm aware of in Brussels next week are detailed at http://philarcher.org/diary/2012/juneevents/ 15:02:25 My brain hurts... 15:02:30 Have a GREAT ine! 15:02:31 bye 15:02:40 - +1.202.566.aadd 15:02:45 Thanks George and Fadi for scribing 15:02:46 - +1.978.352.aaee 15:02:48 Elvis has left the room... 15:02:50 - +49.721.aaaa 15:02:55 -PhilA2 15:02:56 olyerickson has left #gld 15:02:56 -davidwood 15:02:59 - +3539149aaff 15:03:04 -olyerickson 15:03:08 -GeraldSteeman 15:03:12 -boris 15:03:16 -George_Thomas 15:03:22 -fadmaa 15:03:59 zakim, davidwood is me 15:03:59 sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'davidwood' 15:04:27 zakim, of course you don't … bot! 15:04:27 I don't understand 'of course you don't … bot!', bhyland 15:04:42 precisely! 15:05:26 @PhilA2 - good luck with the Brussels event, it looks great and will be an excellent crowd … have fun! 15:06:44 Thanks bhyland - I'm looking forward to it even though it's going to be a tough couple of days 15:10:41 PhilA2 has left #gld 15:35:01 disconnecting the lone participant, ??P0, in T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 15:35:02 T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 15:35:02 Attendees were +49.721.aaaa, +3539149aabb, George_Thomas, davidwood, +1.757.604.aacc, +1.202.566.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.978.352.aaee, PhilA2, cygri, boris, GeraldSteeman, fadmaa, 15:35:02 ... tinagheen, olyerickson, +3539149aaff 15:52:17 fadmaa has joined #gld 15:52:20 rrsagent, generate minutes 15:52:20 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/14-gld-minutes.html fadmaa 15:58:09 rrsagent, make log public 15:58:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:58:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/14-gld-minutes.html fadmaa 17:30:54 Zakim has left #gld