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13:57:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
13:57:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:57:42 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:57:42 <trackbot> Date: 12 June 2012
13:58:02 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2012-06-12
13:58:08 <AxelPolleres> chair: AxelPolleres
13:58:23 <AxelPolleres> Regrets: Birte, Lee, Sandro
13:58:35 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
13:58:42 <Zakim> +??P1
13:58:46 <AndyS> zakim, ??P1 is me
13:58:46 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
13:59:19 <Zakim> +pgearon
13:59:24 <Zakim> + +1.310.729.aaaa
13:59:29 <kasei> Zakim, aaaa is me
13:59:29 <Zakim> +kasei; got it
13:59:57 <Zakim> + +49.897.aabb
14:00:03 <Zakim> +??P9
14:00:09 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P9 is me
14:00:09 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
14:00:19 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aabb is probably me
14:00:19 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres?; got it
14:00:23 <Zakim> + +33.4.92.38.aacc
14:00:42 <Olivier> Zakim, aacc is me
14:00:42 <Zakim> +Olivier; got it
14:00:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:00:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres?, SteveH, Olivier
14:01:12 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, AxelPolleres? is me
14:01:12 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it
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14:02:41 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd
14:02:45 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode?
14:02:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), chimezie
14:03:04 <MattPerry> zakim, aadd is me
14:03:04 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
14:03:13 <AxelPolleres> Chime, could you scribe?
14:03:17 <Zakim> +Chimezie
14:03:21 <chimezie> sure
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14:03:31 <AxelPolleres> scribe: chime
14:03:43 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
14:03:43 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted
14:04:24 <AxelPolleres> topic: admin
14:04:38 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05
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14:04:50 <chimezie> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:04:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, SteveH, Olivier, MattPerry, Chimezie (muted)
14:05:15 <AndyS> I was not there.
14:05:15 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-06-05
14:05:25 <AndyS> (I'm under both there and not there!)
14:05:39 <AndyS> (NP)
14:06:04 <AxelPolleres> Next regular meeting: 2012-06-19 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST 
14:06:10 <Olivier> regrets for next week
14:06:23 <chimezie> I have regrets as well
14:06:32 <AxelPolleres> regrets for next week, from me too
14:07:08 <AxelPolleres> andy, sandro would be next on the scribelist
14:07:23 <AndyS> Ok - (caveat slight RSI (shoulders))
14:07:25 <Zakim> +??P30
14:07:28 <chimezie> Axel: RDF WG liason?
14:07:35 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P30 is me
14:07:36 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it
14:07:49 <chimezie> AndyS: nothing last week and didn't attend one before that
14:08:14 <Arthur> Arthur has joined #sparql
14:08:35 <chimezie> ... some discussion regarding JSON-LD , unclear where that stands (not related to SPARQL)
14:08:44 <Zakim> + +1.512.651.aaee
14:09:02 <chimezie> Axel: comments review
14:09:04 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
14:09:35 <chimezie> Axel: important to address all open comments prior to going to next stage
14:09:39 <AndyS> q+ to ask about reorg the page
14:10:38 <chimezie> AndyS: should I clean up the page to make it more manageable.  Consolidation section should have all open comments, everything below is historical
14:11:08 <chimezie> Axel: I see open comments below
14:11:17 <chimezie> AndyS: they should all be copied up
14:11:35 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Andy to move all open comments to a new wiki page
14:11:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-639 - Move all open comments to a new wiki page [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-06-19].
14:12:15 <chimezie> Axel: I have a draft response to discuss
14:12:17 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:KK-15
14:12:39 <Zakim> -Chimezie
14:13:05 <Zakim> +Chimezie
14:13:48 <chimezie> Axel: Anyone want to look over comment?
14:14:02 <AxelPolleres> kindly asking for approval per email of KK-15 response.
14:14:47 <chimezie> AndyS:  I think it's ok
14:15:18 <SteveH> looks fine to me too
14:15:28 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to send response forKK-15
14:15:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-640 - Send response forKK-15 [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].
14:15:48 <chimezie> Axel: others?
14:16:15 <AxelPolleres> topic: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/To_PR
14:17:08 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: query
14:17:24 <chimezie> AndyS:  Query document.  PR page is up to date WRT outstanding issues to address
14:18:04 <AxelPolleres> getting ready by end of this month, if nothing else goes wrong.
14:18:45 <chimezie> AndyS:  Waiting on Paul review of PP.  May need review of changing sections
14:18:48 <chimezie> .. and of BIND
14:18:52 <AxelPolleres> BIND stuff will also need reviewing
14:19:07 <chimezie> Axel: I sent reply on INSCOPE def.
14:19:30 <chimezie> Axel: I'll take another look
14:19:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope
14:19:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-641 - Look back on ACTION-618 and where we were to proceed with in-scope [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].
14:19:59 <AndyS> ACTION-639 Done
14:20:18 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: update
14:21:04 <chimezie> Axel: Kjetl comments is relevant here, regarding bnode correlation 
14:21:11 <chimezie> ... wasn't able to go over test case proposed
14:21:22 <chimezie> ... Greg suggested revision of test case
14:21:54 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to check revision of test case proposed by greg
14:21:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-642 - Check revision of test case proposed by greg [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].
14:22:17 <chimezie> Axel: Editing by Paul?
14:22:24 <chimezie> Paul: no there is not.  Mostly done now
14:22:46 <chimezie> Axel: Hopefully ready for review
14:23:03 <chimezie> Paul: I think we are ready for review
14:23:32 <AndyS> pgearon, axel - as I'm away so can't talk to paul, you two could link up after call.
14:23:56 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim?
14:23:56 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, AxelPolleres.
14:24:04 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
14:24:04 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cbuilara
14:24:10 <cbuilara> yes, ok
14:24:20 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Carlos to review update
14:24:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-643 - Review update [on Carlos Buil Aranda - due 2012-06-19].
14:24:24 <cbuilara> deadline? in a week?
14:24:49 <cbuilara> ok
14:24:57 <cbuilara> I will try
14:24:59 <Olivier> I can do it also
14:25:42 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: olivier to review update
14:25:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-644 - Review update [on Olivier Corby - due 2012-06-19].
14:26:50 <chimezie> Greg: As a result of DBooth comment, I think there is a change to SD related to dereferences URL, will email group in next couple of day - not big issue, but might require slipping new LC documents
14:27:06 <chimezie> s/couple of day/couple of days
14:27:35 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
14:27:35 <Zakim> Chimezie was not muted, chimezie
14:27:55 <Zakim> -SteveH
14:29:40 <AxelPolleres> MSO-1 is done
14:30:01 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to review GSP
14:30:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-645 - Review GSP [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].
14:30:09 <Zakim> +??P36
14:30:21 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P36 is me
14:30:21 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it
14:30:37 <chimezie> JL3-1 needs updating WRT removal of reference to REST
14:30:48 <chimezie> after those changes are reviewed
14:31:21 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: entailment
14:31:35 <Arthur> Zakim, +1.512.651.aaee is me
14:31:35 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it
14:31:51 <AxelPolleres> there  might be still a comment that requires change...
14:32:13 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any
14:32:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-646 - Clarify with Birte about open issues/changes necessaryu in entailment, if any [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].
14:32:21 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
14:32:21 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted
14:32:32 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: federated query
14:32:43 <cbuilara> cabn you hear me?
14:32:46 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
14:32:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, pgearon, kasei, AxelPolleres, Olivier, MattPerry, cbuilara, Arthur, Chimezie (muted), SteveH
14:32:52 <cbuilara> sorry, I'm having problems with my mic
14:33:02 <cbuilara> summary: I updated it
14:33:05 <cbuilara> the PR page
14:33:13 <cbuilara> only one action (520) about tests
14:33:17 <cbuilara> only one comment
14:33:25 <cbuilara> can you repeat pls?
14:33:39 <cbuilara> no need of review since no changes from LC
14:34:05 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: result formats
14:34:13 <chimezie> AndyS:  (Result formats) - JSON and CSV/TSV are okay
14:34:16 <chimezie> ... no changes
14:34:29 <AxelPolleres> no changes for either JSON nor CSV/TSV since LC
14:35:28 <AxelPolleres> subtopic: overview
14:35:54 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
14:35:54 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Chimezie (muted)
14:35:59 <chimezie> Axel:  full review not neccessary, just reply to email
14:36:06 <chimezie> sure
14:36:17 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: chime to review overview
14:36:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-647 - Review overview [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-06-19].
14:37:24 <AxelPolleres> topic: schedule
14:37:40 <chimezie> Axel: Our charter runs until end of June.  
14:38:05 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2011/05/sparql-charter 
14:38:23 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012AprJun/0229.html
14:38:28 <chimezie> ... Sandro sent email prior to call
14:38:42 <chimezie> Axel: Need to get reviews from other WGs
14:39:00 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to coordinate with Lee and Sandro on getting othe WG reviews.
14:39:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-648 - Coordinate with Lee and Sandro on getting othe WG reviews. [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].
14:39:33 <chimezie> ... we forgot this for some other documents.  Sandro suggested to do this with next LC round
14:39:46 <chimezie> ... need this prior to PR/CR
14:40:02 <chimezie> Axel: So, we must extend the working group again
14:41:04 <AxelPolleres> what do people think about extending until end of the year latest?
14:41:15 <bglimm> Sorry for just jumping in (I have a parallel meeting and only partly watch IRC). There are no open comments/issues for Ent. Regimes and there have not been any changes since LC, so I am not sure it needs another review
14:41:33 <AxelPolleres> Andy: abent any severe issues, 6months more seem to be right.
14:41:37 <chimezie> I'm available, but just with a *little* reduction in bandwidth over next 6 months
14:42:05 <AxelPolleres> strawpoll: would you be willing to continue the WG until end of the year?
14:42:11 <AndyS> +1
14:42:14 <Arthur> +1
14:42:15 <kasei> +1
14:42:15 <bglimm> +1
14:42:16 <MattPerry> +1
14:42:27 <chimezie> +1
14:42:29 <Olivier> +1
14:42:36 <cbuilara> +1
14:42:47 <AxelPolleres> +0.5 (hope to finish the main parts definitly before october, will be very tight for me after that)
14:43:30 <AxelPolleres> looks like consensus that we could proceed until end of the year for the people present.
14:43:36 <chimezie> Axel: Will speak to Lee about this
14:43:53 <pgearon> +1
14:43:58 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to coordinate with Lee and sandro about extension until end of the year and exact schedule
14:43:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-649 - Coordinate with Lee and sandro about extension until end of the year and exact schedule [on Axel Polleres - due 2012-06-19].
14:44:09 <chimezie> Axel: all for today
14:44:34 <chimezie> .. clean up comments, start reviews.  Hope we don't need entire half year even if we extend
14:45:28 <AxelPolleres> adjourned
14:45:45 <AxelPolleres> bye
14:45:45 <MattPerry> bye
14:45:45 <Zakim> -SteveH
14:45:46 <cbuilara> bye
14:45:47 <Zakim> -Chimezie
14:45:49 <Zakim> -Olivier
14:45:50 <Zakim> -AndyS
14:45:51 <Zakim> -cbuilara
14:45:52 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
14:45:54 <Zakim> -Arthur
14:45:57 <Zakim> -MattPerry
14:46:07 <Zakim> -AxelPolleres
14:46:10 <Zakim> -kasei
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15:35:02 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, pgearon, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, +49.897.aabb, SteveH, +33.4.92.38.aacc, Olivier, AxelPolleres, +1.603.897.aadd, MattPerry, Chimezie, cbuilara, Arthur
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