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15:44:33 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:44:33 <trackbot> Date: 12 June 2012
15:45:13 <ivan> :-)
15:45:21 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Jun/0010.html
15:45:25 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
15:45:35 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas
15:45:47 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Souri
15:46:02 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Marcelo
15:46:06 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Richard
15:46:49 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:46:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/12-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:46:55 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
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15:59:15 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
15:59:23 <Zakim> + +3539149aaaa
15:59:32 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is mhausenblas 
15:59:40 <mhausenblas> present+ Michael
15:59:48 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it
15:59:51 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
16:00:04 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
16:00:09 <Zakim> +Ivan
16:00:20 <mhausenblas> present+ Ivan
16:00:28 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Ashok
16:00:32 <Zakim> +??P1
16:00:42 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P1 is boris 
16:00:42 <Zakim> +boris; got it
16:00:52 <mhausenblas> present+ Boris
16:00:53 <Zakim> +[OpenLink]
16:01:05 <MacTed> Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me
16:01:05 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
16:01:06 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
16:01:06 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
16:01:22 <Zakim> + +1.512.484.aabb
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16:01:54 <mhausenblas> Zakim, nunolopes is with me
16:01:54 <Zakim> +nunolopes; got it
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16:06:30 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd
16:06:36 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aacc is Juan
16:06:36 <Zakim> +Juan; got it
16:06:43 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aadd is Seema 
16:06:43 <Zakim> +Seema; got it
16:06:51 <mhausenblas> present+ Nuno
16:06:54 <mhausenblas> present+ Seema
16:07:02 <mhausenblas> present+ Juan
16:07:30 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin
16:07:36 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/05/22-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
16:07:52 <boris> +1
16:08:00 <ivan> +1
16:08:01 <mhausenblas> RESOLVED: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/05/22-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
16:08:13 <mhausenblas> Topic: Implementation Report
16:09:04 <mhausenblas> Michael: Ashok has asked implementors re EARL reports
16:09:32 <Zakim> +EricP
16:09:51 <boris> q+
16:10:15 <mhausenblas> Juan: EARL reports will be available by end of week for both
16:10:20 <mhausenblas> q?
16:10:37 <MacTed> prioritization of testing, etc., is always a challenge...  but DM and R2RML implementation is definitely planned, has been for year-plus, I don't understand why OpenLink is not on the list as in agenda
16:10:38 <mhausenblas> Ivan: for the complete test suite?
16:10:42 <nunolopes> q+
16:10:44 <mhausenblas> Juan: yes
16:10:47 <mhausenblas> ack boris 
16:10:48 <ericP> q+
16:11:11 <mhausenblas> Boris: We plan to have the EARL reports ready by end of June for R2RML
16:11:19 <MacTed> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Implementations
16:11:31 <mhausenblas> q?
16:11:36 <mhausenblas> ack nunolopes 
16:12:26 <mhausenblas> Nuno: I can send the EARL report today or tomorrow latest for both R2RML and DM except TC16 and TC17
16:12:41 <mhausenblas> q?
16:12:46 <mhausenblas> ack ericP 
16:13:23 <mhausenblas> Eric: Beside the base directive I pass all DM test
16:14:06 <mhausenblas> … I can send and update EARL report ASAP (this week)
16:14:12 <mhausenblas> q?
16:14:18 <nunolopes> +q
16:14:25 <mhausenblas> ack nunolopes 
16:15:02 <mhausenblas> Nuno: should we do more RDBMS
16:15:17 <mhausenblas> Michael: No formal requirement but yes, the more the merrier
16:15:29 <mhausenblas> Richard: D2RQ status - DM: As of today we pass all test cases except two that require duplicate preservation. Earl report is forthcoming, probably later this week.
16:15:29 <mhausenblas> D2RQ status - R2RML: It's work in progress. It won't be done 100% by the 19th. There's a good chance that we'll have everything complete by the 26th.
16:16:22 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
16:16:22 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
16:17:05 <mhausenblas> Ted: Can't give a definitive date for EARL reports but we're working on it heavily 
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16:17:25 <Zakim> + +575737aaee
16:17:32 <Zakim> -Juan
16:17:40 <juansequeda> Zakim, aaee is me
16:17:40 <Zakim> +juansequeda; got it
16:17:53 <mhausenblas> present+ Juan
16:18:03 <mhausenblas> present+ Ted
16:19:51 <mhausenblas> Michael: WG-external we have Toby Inkster for R2RML and DM
16:20:02 <ericP> q+ to ask about XHMTL manifest
16:20:37 <mhausenblas> q?
16:20:43 <mhausenblas> ack ericP 
16:20:43 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask about XHMTL manifest
16:21:03 <mhausenblas> Topic: Test Cases
16:21:29 <mhausenblas> ericP: Test manifest is in HTML+RDFa, can we change to XHTML
16:21:35 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/
16:21:58 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
16:22:46 <mhausenblas> Boris: Will take care of it
16:23:15 <mhausenblas> Michael: Status re TC?
16:23:23 <ericP> q+ to ask about @base directives
16:23:28 <mhausenblas> Boris: Richard pointed out some issues - all fixed
16:23:50 <mhausenblas> … also the null-col values
16:24:18 <mhausenblas> … some issues by Toby
16:24:41 <boris> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-comments/2012Jun/0003.html
16:25:46 <boris> Hyphens are allowed in bnode identifiers by Turtle, but not by N-Triples or N-Quads.
16:26:05 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/#note-blank-node-identifiers
16:26:20 <boris> Strings matching the regular expression [a-zA-Z_][a-zA-Z_0-9-]* are valid blank node identifiers in all W3C-recommended RDF syntaxes (as of this document's publication).
16:26:56 <boris> http://sw.deri.org/2008/07/n-quads/
16:27:52 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-testcases/#name
16:28:39 <juansequeda> But don't we use n-quads for the test cases with rr:graph? 
16:29:00 <mhausenblas> Michael: that is my understanding as well, Juan
16:29:30 <juansequeda> Can't we just take the hyphen out? and voila :)
16:32:18 <mhausenblas> (discussion around N-Quads, etc.)
16:32:55 <mhausenblas> Michael: Let's just take out the hyphen, yes
16:33:13 <boris> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-comments/2012Jun/0006.html
16:34:09 <mhausenblas> Boris: re base URI
16:34:13 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/#tc
16:34:22 <boris> Throughout all test cases, we use the base IRI <http://example.com/base/>:  to turn relative IRIs generated by the Direct Mapping into absolute IRIs, as the required base IRI input to the R2RML processor.
16:36:18 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/r2rml/#definitions
16:36:25 <mhausenblas> Boris: will change that and let Toby know
16:36:56 <mhausenblas> Boris: Third issue by Toby re rr:objectMap has been fixed
16:36:57 <boris> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-comments/2012Jun/0008.html
16:38:17 <mhausenblas> Eric: discuss design decision, maybe?
16:38:26 <mhausenblas> Michael: Without Richard?
16:39:12 <mhausenblas> q?
16:39:20 <ericP> ack me
16:39:20 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask about @base directives
16:39:24 <mhausenblas> ack ericP 
16:39:40 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB
16:40:28 <mhausenblas> Ivan: Lots of people at SemTech that are using R2RML without knowing it, really
16:41:00 <ericP> q+ to talk about SPARQL access to SQL DBs tutorial
16:41:09 <mhausenblas> Ivan: should be a good motivation for us to get the stuff out ASAP
16:41:30 <mhausenblas> ericP: Did a tutorial re SPARQL access to SQL DBs
16:41:45 <mhausenblas> … good and interested audience
16:41:58 <mhausenblas> q?
16:42:00 <mhausenblas> ack ericP 
16:42:00 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to talk about SPARQL access to SQL DBs tutorial
16:42:37 <mhausenblas> Juan: First part was Eric, then more on data integration with SW technologies
16:43:14 <mhausenblas> Nuno: I was looking at the DM the other day and found some minor syntax bugs
16:44:16 <mhausenblas> Michael: Please report to the list, Nuno so we can fix it (editorial wise) in PR transition
16:46:02 <mhausenblas> Ivan: looking through the implementations we could have a transition by 1 July
16:47:04 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'd like to check back with Ashok and Richard (re R2RML in D2R)
16:48:21 <mhausenblas> (meeting adjourned)
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16:52:01 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:52:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/12-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
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16:54:59 <mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon
16:54:59 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:54:59 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +3539149aaaa, mhausenblas, Ivan, boris, MacTed, +1.512.484.aabb, nunolopes, +1.512.484.aacc, +1.603.897.aadd, Juan, Seema, EricP,
16:55:03 <Zakim> ... +575737aaee, juansequeda
16:55:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:55:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/06/12-rdb2rdf-minutes.html trackbot
16:55:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
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