IRC log of wcag2ict on 2012-05-18
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- meeting: WCAG2ICT Task Force
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- chair: Judy_Brewer
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- scribe: MichaelC
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- +??P4
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- + +1.202.447.aaaa
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- zakim, ??P4 is Loic_Martinez
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- +Loic_Martinez; got it
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- +??P5
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- zakim, aaaa is Al_Hoffman
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- +Al_Hoffman; got it
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- zakim, ??P5 is Jane_Vincent
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- +Jane_Vincent; got it
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- +??P7
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- +??P8
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- zakim, ??P7 is Mike_Pluke
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- +Mike_Pluke; got it
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- +??P6
- 14:00:46 [MichaelC]
- zakim, ??P8 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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- + +1.519.597.aabb
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- zakim, ??P6 is Janina_Sajka
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- +Janina_Sajka; got it
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- zakim, aabb is John_Lee
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- +John_Lee; got it
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- +[Microsoft]
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- zakim, Microsoft is Alex Li
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- I don't understand 'Microsoft is Alex Li', MichaelC
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- zakim, Microsoft is Alex_Li
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- +Alex_Li; got it
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- +[Oracle]
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- rrsagent, make log world
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- zakim, Oracle is Peter_Korn
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- +Peter_Korn; got it
- 14:02:36 [korn]
- zakim, Oracle is Peter Korn
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- I don't understand 'Oracle is Peter Korn', korn
- 14:03:01 [korn]
- zakim, Oracle is Peter_Korn
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- sorry, korn, I do not recognize a party named 'Oracle'
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- + +1.512.422.aacc
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- - +1.512.422.aacc
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- +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
- 14:03:18 [korn]
- I see that now, thanks MichaelC
- 14:03:39 [Judy]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- On the phone I see Judy, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loic_Martinez, Al_Hoffman, Jane_Vincent, Mike_Pluke, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Janina_Sajka, John_Lee, Alex_Li, Peter_Korn,
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- ... Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- zakim, +01 is Kiran_Karja
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- +Kiran_Karja; got it
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- + +1.512.255.aaee
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- zakim, aaee is Mary_Jo_Mueller
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- +Mary_Jo_Mueller; got it
- 14:07:35 [janina]
- Janina can
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- -Janina_Sajka
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- -Al_Hoffman
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- -Kiran_Karja
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- zakim, code?
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- the conference code is 2428 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), shadi
- 14:08:54 [korn]
- New code for other room: 26631
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- -Alex_Li
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- -Peter_Korn
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- thx peter
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- I'm back in now on the other line
- 14:10:17 [shadi]
- zakim, this is 26631
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- shadi, Team_(cg)14:06Z is already associated with an irc channel; use 'move 26631 to here' if you mean to reassociate the channel
- 14:10:48 [korn]
- Someone isn't muted who has a speakerphone line open.
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- + +1.617.401.aaff
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- zakim, aaff is Duff_Johnson
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- +Duff_Johnson; got it
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- topic: Introductions
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- Judy Brewer, Director of WAI, Boston
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- q+
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- Bruce Bailey, US Access Board, Washington DC
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- q-
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- Loic Martinez, <missed>
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- q+
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- Jane Vincent, AT lead, U Michigan Ann Arbor
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- q-
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- Loic Martinez, Technical University of Madrid
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- Mike Pluke, chair ETSI, leading M-###
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- s/M-###/M-376
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- Gregg Vanderheiden, co-chair WCAG, TEITAC, Trace, Madison
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- John Lee, RIM, M-376, Toronto
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- I'm only on one line here
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- go on...
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- Mary Jo Mueller, IBM, Austin
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- Duff Johnson, NetCentric
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- Apparently I'm only audible to the 26631 call
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- I hear Janina
- 14:22:07 [korn]
- I think the entire other line is muted on the main line now.
- 14:22:09 [janina]
- I take it my audio didn't come through?
- 14:22:09 [AWK]
- I heard alex also
- 14:22:13 [MichaelC]
- zakim, unmute Andrew
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- Andrew_Kirkpatrick should no longer be muted
- 14:22:53 [MichaelC]
- Janina Sajka, chair Linux Open Accessibility, and PFWG, Washington DC
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- Andrew Kirkpatrick, Adobe, WCAG, TEITAC
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- Alex Li, Microsoft, WCAG, TEITAC
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- Peter Korn, Oracle, same as above
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- Al Hoffman, Homeland Security
- 14:23:55 [shadi]
- ack me
- 14:24:17 [korn]
- Is there another IRC meeting for the other channel?
- 14:24:22 [MichaelC]
- Shadi Abou-Zahra, WAI, M-376, Europe
- 14:24:47 [MichaelC]
- Kiran_Karja, Adobe Accessibility, London
- 14:25:23 [MichaelC]
- Michael Cooper, WAI, WCAG
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- topic: Description of the group
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- jb: Mandate is to perform a technical review of how WCAG 2 maps to non-Web ICT
- 14:27:27 [MichaelC]
- and product a non-normative document
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- do not plan to make statements about whether WCAG 2 *should* apply to those technologies
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- that is prerogative of other organizations
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- also not going to change WCAG itself
- 14:28:35 [MichaelC]
- the goal is to have a circulatable draft in the next few months
- 14:28:46 [MichaelC]
- want a lot of continuity from one discussion to the next
- 14:29:05 [MichaelC]
- impacts participation, and is a reason for high time commitment
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- time commitment applies to individuals, not organizations shared among multiple individuals
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- we would prefer a single person from an organization be the direct participant, and any others serve just as offline backup, commenters, etc.
- 14:30:35 [MichaelC]
- We've been looking for people who have extensive knowledge of the development of WCAG 2
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- or who have participated in US and European discussions of takeup of WCAG 2
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- people with both those sets of experience particularly helfpul
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- s/helfpul/helpful/
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- topic: W3C participation structures
- 14:32:00 [MichaelC]
- jb: Many have worked with W3C, but some haven't and want to describe as applied to task force
- 14:32:16 [MichaelC]
- W3C areas of work happen under Activities
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- in a specific Working Group that is defined by a charter
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- the charter is carefully prepared and reviewed by the hundreds of W3C Member organizations
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- Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group (WCAG WG) is one of these
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- (charter linked from TF Work Statement)
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- the WG has ability to create Task Forces (TF) under it to work on items specifically relevant to its charter
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- W3C was specifically asked for help on the question of applicability of WCAG to non-Web ICT
- 14:34:48 [AWK]
- Work statement:: http://www.w3.org/2012/04/WCAG2ICT-WorkStatement.html
- 14:34:52 [MichaelC]
- this task force was formed to respond to that, with a carefully defined work statement
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- any outputs of the group must be approved by the sponsoring WG
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- i.e., WCAG has to approve and publish documents, those are not published by the TF directly
- 14:35:46 [MichaelC]
- so the work we do is governed by W3C process, as enabled by the WCAG WG
- 14:36:16 [MichaelC]
- one aspect of W3C process is the Patent Policy that enables royalty-free information sharing
- 14:36:30 [MichaelC]
- to join the TF, you join the WCAG WG
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- which requires acceptance of the patent policy requirement
- 14:36:51 [MichaelC]
- after you join the WG, you flag your interest in the TF
- 14:37:19 [MichaelC]
- There are two ways to join a WG
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- 1) Via Membership; 2) as Invited Expert
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- majority of people in this call are from W3C Member organizations
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- your Advisory Committee representative can nominate you
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- we can tell you if you don't know who that is
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- Invited Expert process is for people from organizations that do not have resources to be W3C Member
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- but have perspective that is particularly relevant to the work
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- we may have to have a discussion with you about your knowledge and affiliations
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- Your participation in this TF is for the expected limited lifetime of the TF
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- but welcome this being an entry to participation in other areas
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- some may find early on that other areas of work are more relevant
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- Keep in mind that you are a participant in the TF, not someone who speaks on behalf of it
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- Also be clear that the TF is not involved in regulatory work
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- please defer to facilitators and staff with respect to representations of the work
- 14:42:24 [MichaelC]
- Andi Snow-Weaver, Mike Pluke, Judy Brewer, Michael Cooper
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- Thanks to people who helped get this going
- 14:44:34 [Alex]
- q+
- 14:44:40 [MichaelC]
- Peter Korn, Gregg Vanderheiden, Andi Snow-Weaver
- 14:44:52 [MichaelC]
- al: Are there people invited who not in this call?
- 14:45:02 [MichaelC]
- jb: yes, some who couldn't attend at this time
- 14:45:20 [MichaelC]
- think I've heard from everyone one way or the other, who was invited
- 14:45:24 [MichaelC]
- but don't have a collated list yet
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- expect a few people in next week or two besides those on this call
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- but expect to begin working together early next week
- 14:46:21 [korn]
- q+
- 14:46:27 [MichaelC]
- there will be a bit of flux initially but want a stable group to form moving ahead
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- ack a
- 14:46:32 [Alex]
- q-
- 14:46:33 [MichaelC]
- ack k
- 14:47:03 [MichaelC]
- pk: In addition to expertise in WCAG and familiarity with regulatory aspects
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- familiarity in applying accessibility frameworks, making applications and documents accessible would be very welcome
- 14:48:09 [MichaelC]
- jb: Note we haven't sent a general call for participation
- 14:48:24 [MichaelC]
- TFs normally draw their membership from the WG directly
- 14:48:52 [mapluke]
- Q+
- 14:48:56 [MichaelC]
- potential interest might be higher than for a typical TF, but we need to stay focused
- 14:49:10 [MichaelC]
- please don't send invites around; instead, bring suggested members to our attention
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- ack m
- 14:49:53 [MichaelC]
- mp: the above above requirements met by many of the people already here
- 14:50:35 [MichaelC]
- topic: Process and collaboration tools
- 14:50:59 [Judy]
- http://www.w3.org/2012/04/WCAG2ICT-WorkStatement.html
- 14:51:07 [MichaelC]
- jb: Task Force Work Statement
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- is now a stable document
- 14:51:49 [MichaelC]
- will update the liaison and leadership sections
- 14:53:18 [MichaelC]
- in Approach section
- 14:53:31 [MichaelC]
- looking at applicability of WCAG SC on non-Web ICT
- 14:53:36 [MichaelC]
- will produce a WG Note
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- which is an informative document, is *not* a formal standard
- 14:53:56 [MichaelC]
- may do some work in sub-teams of the TF
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- which report to the TF (which in turn reports to WCAG WG)
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- all drafts will be publicly visible
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- with multiple mechanism for comments
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- responses to comments prepared by the TF
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- in as quick as possible of a timeline
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- use TF as a dialog opportunity, then WG approves work
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- Timeline section is known aggressive
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- expect the short- and medium-term milestones to be defined in early work of the TF
- 14:55:36 [MichaelC]
- work in Europe and US means we need a draft asap
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- and a reasonably complete outline by July
- 14:56:25 [MichaelC]
- Communication has multiple means
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- expect twice-weekly meetings
- 14:56:41 [MichaelC]
- mailing list publicly archived available for discussion
- 14:56:49 [MichaelC]
- TF has a sub-page http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/
- 14:56:58 [MichaelC]
- that will be the home base for finding things out
- 14:57:17 [MichaelC]
- will set up an action tracker and opinion survey tool
- 14:57:41 [MichaelC]
- before meetings there will often be surveys to collect input before the meeting
- 14:57:48 [MichaelC]
- you may be in the position of preparing things for comment
- 14:58:19 [MichaelC]
- we find it good for people to put proposals out for discussion and collect feedback on list and in Web-Based Survey (WBS)
- 14:58:27 [MichaelC]
- so there will be homework...
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- On the TF home page
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- announcements at the top
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- meeting information
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- teleconferences have a US number or use SIP
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- we use IRC for chat and minute-taking
- 15:01:13 [MichaelC]
- links to help on SIP and IRC available
- 15:01:29 [MichaelC]
- will need help scribing (taking minutes)
- 15:01:45 [MichaelC]
- don't expect face-to-face meetings, though possible that could change
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- may have people join calls using interpreters / captions / relay services
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- which means we need to be careful of communication, not talking over each other, etc.
- 15:02:34 [MichaelC]
- will add a references section
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- will have links to drafts
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- initial drafts in a Google site
- 15:03:54 [MichaelC]
- jb: Status of drafts?
- 15:04:06 [MichaelC]
- gv: there is one document, have incorporated input from others received so far
- 15:04:24 [Loicmn]
- I'm sorry but I have to leave and I don't want to interrupt. Have a good session!
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- -Loic_Martinez
- 15:05:13 [MichaelC]
- ack b
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- bb: why using Google sites instead of wiki?
- 15:05:54 [MichaelC]
- jb: let's come back in a minute, when GV introduces
- 15:06:05 [MichaelC]
- MC, please inform about tools
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- <overview of mailing lists and infractructure available from the TF home page>
- 15:13:25 [MichaelC]
- jb: We are going to start with some default meeting times
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- and then check how it's working
- 15:13:39 [MichaelC]
- we are bridging continents
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- and have an editorial team with constraints
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- so our starter times are:
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- Tuesdays and Fridays at 10:00 am U.S. Eastern (14:00 UTC while North America in Daylight Savings Time)
- 15:15:42 [MichaelC]
- topic: Starter draft documents
- 15:15:52 [MichaelC]
- jb: Gregg Vanderheiden is one of the co-chairs of the WCAG WG
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- Loretta Guarino Reid is the other
- 15:17:00 [MichaelC]
- gv: the survey (WBS) tool is used as a natural part of our meetings
- 15:17:08 [MichaelC]
- think of it as a pre-staging of our weekly meeting
- 15:17:16 [MichaelC]
- bring up items for discussion
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- and queue comments and feedback in advance
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- so meeting goes more quickly
- 15:17:34 [MichaelC]
- ensures people have reviewed materials in advance
- 15:17:44 [Alex]
- q+
- 15:17:54 [MichaelC]
- and gives chance to review each others' comments and prepare response
- 15:18:06 [MichaelC]
- ack a
- 15:18:12 [MichaelC]
- al: duration of calls?
- 15:18:19 [MichaelC]
- jb: 90 minutes each
- 15:18:35 [MichaelC]
- gv: we looked at a number of tools for document drafting
- 15:18:44 [MichaelC]
- W3C wiki is not WYSIWYG
- 15:18:49 [MichaelC]
- requires learning a text format
- 15:19:04 [MichaelC]
- Google docs is easier to work with
- 15:19:06 [korn]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG2ICT-TF/track/
- 15:19:17 [korn]
- Sorry, wrong one. I meant https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/
- 15:19:29 [MichaelC]
- there have been a lot of accessibility improvements
- 15:19:42 [MichaelC]
- there are a bunch of pages available
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- each has ability to attach comments
- 15:19:58 [MichaelC]
- it's publicly viewable, but not publicly editable
- 15:20:21 [MichaelC]
- each item we cover is a separate page
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- so can attach documents and comments on just that topic
- 15:20:47 [MichaelC]
- important to separate opinions of individuals from task force statements
- 15:21:11 [MichaelC]
- so each page has a clear division
- 15:21:20 [MichaelC]
- there is a section that has the consensus-based content
- 15:21:37 [MichaelC]
- and a following section that has anything else
- 15:21:51 [MichaelC]
- right now not much in the consensus area because we haven't started the process yet
- 15:22:38 [MichaelC]
- we are copying in the Intent section from Understanding WCAG20
- 15:23:08 [MichaelC]
- there is a section for contributions
- 15:24:37 [MichaelC]
- jb: we'll work out practices for ensuring content appears in the right places
- 15:24:44 [MichaelC]
- and will migrate content to W3C reasonably soon
- 15:24:53 [MichaelC]
- gv: note the tool does track who makes what edit
- 15:25:01 [MichaelC]
- jb: summary of content so far?
- 15:25:17 [MichaelC]
- gv: right now we have an outline of what the document might look like
- 15:25:26 [MichaelC]
- some proposed frontmatter and introductory text
- 15:26:05 [MichaelC]
- each Principle, Guidelines, and Success Criterion from WCAG has a reflection in this document
- 15:26:44 [MichaelC]
- with the consensus content, proposals, and issues / comments / questions / answers / discussion etc.
- 15:27:24 [MichaelC]
- There are links in glossary to some items, may need expansion
- 15:28:06 [Alex]
- q+
- 15:28:31 [MichaelC]
- topic: Wrap-up, continuation
- 15:28:33 [MichaelC]
- jb: note this was an extremely introductory session
- 15:28:35 [MichaelC]
- ack a
- 15:28:41 [MichaelC]
- al: Will meetings have agenda?
- 15:28:47 [MichaelC]
- jb: yes
- 15:29:01 [MichaelC]
- though first meeting agenda will be shortly before
- 15:29:33 [korn]
- q+
- 15:29:36 [MichaelC]
- bb: I have a document that compares WCAG language, TEITAC, and ANPRM language
- 15:29:40 [mapluke]
- Q+
- 15:29:44 [MichaelC]
- want to upload, don't want to email
- 15:30:04 [MichaelC]
- jb: send to Gregg, Judy, MichaelC
- 15:30:24 [MichaelC]
- we'll sort out where it seems best
- 15:30:31 [mapluke]
- www.mandate376.eu
- 15:30:35 [MichaelC]
- ack m
- 15:30:50 [MichaelC]
- mp: we have a draft document as well
- 15:30:58 [MichaelC]
- that explores some of the issues
- 15:31:12 [MichaelC]
- it could serve as input to the work of this TF
- 15:31:27 [korn]
- q-
- 15:31:40 [Alex]
- q+
- 15:32:18 [MichaelC]
- jb: the early input is extremely valuable
- 15:32:25 [MichaelC]
- means there's a lot everyone will need to review
- 15:32:30 [MichaelC]
- ack a
- 15:32:59 [MichaelC]
- al: is the M376 content in the Google site?
- 15:33:11 [MichaelC]
- gv: no, we can link to it but didn't want to copy over
- 15:34:00 [MichaelC]
- jb: ok, we're about done
- 15:34:14 [Zakim]
- -John_Lee
- 15:34:17 [Zakim]
- -Jane_Vincent
- 15:34:41 [Zakim]
- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
- 15:35:18 [MichaelC]
- will follow up on various things
- 15:36:01 [Zakim]
- -Mary_Jo_Mueller
- 15:37:08 [Alex]
- bye all
- 15:37:16 [greggvanderheiden]
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- 15:37:43 [Judy]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 15:37:43 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Judy, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Mike_Pluke, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Duff_Johnson
- 15:37:51 [MichaelC]
- scribeOptions: -scribeOnly, -implicitContinuations
- 15:37:58 [MichaelC]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 15:37:58 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/18-wcag2ict-minutes.html MichaelC
- 15:38:22 [janina]
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- 15:38:27 [mapluke]
- Bye all
- 15:38:28 [Zakim]
- -Cooper
- 15:38:31 [Zakim]
- -Bruce_Bailey
- 15:38:32 [Zakim]
- -Duff_Johnson
- 15:38:45 [Judy]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 15:38:45 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Judy, Mike_Pluke, Andrew_Kirkpatrick
- 15:39:05 [MichaelC]
- s/scribeOptions: -scribeOnly, -implicitContinuations//
- 15:39:18 [MichaelC]
- scribeOptions: -scribeOnly -implicitContinuations
- 15:39:23 [MichaelC]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 15:39:23 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/18-wcag2ict-minutes.html MichaelC
- 15:39:31 [Zakim]
- -Judy
- 15:42:47 [Zakim]
- -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
- 15:43:11 [MichaelC]
- zakim, drop Mike
- 15:43:11 [Zakim]
- Mike_Pluke is being disconnected
- 15:43:13 [Zakim]
- Team_(wcag2ict)14:00Z has ended
- 15:43:13 [Zakim]
- Attendees were Judy, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, +1.202.447.aaaa, Loic_Martinez, Al_Hoffman, Jane_Vincent, Mike_Pluke, Gregg_Vanderheiden, +1.519.597.aabb, Janina_Sajka, John_Lee,
- 15:43:13 [Zakim]
- ... Alex_Li, Peter_Korn, +1.512.422.aacc, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, +0162859aadd, Kiran_Karja, +1.512.255.aaee, Mary_Jo_Mueller, +1.617.401.aaff, Duff_Johnson
- 15:46:36 [MichaelC]
- present: Judy, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loic_Martinez, Al_Hoffman, Jane_Vincent, Mike_Pluke, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Janina_Sajka, John_Lee, Alex_Li, Peter_Korn, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Kiran_Karja, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Duff_Johnson, Peter_Korn, Shadi
- 15:46:39 [MichaelC]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 15:46:39 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/18-wcag2ict-minutes.html MichaelC
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