IRC log of i18n on 2012-05-02
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- 14:51:13 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc
- 14:51:20 [aphillip]
- trackbot, prepare teleconference
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 4186
- 14:51:24 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
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- Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
- 14:51:25 [trackbot]
- Date: 02 May 2012
- 14:51:43 [aphillip]
- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2012May/0000.html
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- Chair: Addison Phillips
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- Scribe: Addison Phillips
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- ScribeNick: aphillip
- 14:52:10 [aharon]
- Hi Addison, FYI I am already on the conf call, a little early
- 14:52:13 [aphillip]
- Regrets: John
- 14:52:13 [aphillip]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
- 14:52:13 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 14:59:03 [Gwyneth]
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- 15:00:53 [aphillip]
- zakim, this is I18N
- 15:00:53 [Zakim]
- ok, aphillip; that matches I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM
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- zakim, dial richard
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- ok, r12a; the call is being made
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- +Richard
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- hmmm
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- zakim, kill richard
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- I don't understand 'kill richard', r12a
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- zakim, drop richard
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- Richard is being disconnected
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- -Richard
- 15:02:22 [r12a]
- zakim, dial richard
- 15:02:22 [Zakim]
- ok, r12a; the call is being made
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- +Richard
- 15:02:58 [aphillip]
- agenda+ ruby use case document
- 15:03:10 [r12a]
- zakim, who's here ?
- 15:03:10 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see ??P2, Gwyneth, ??P14, Addison_Phillips, Richard
- 15:03:10 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 15:03:11 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see r12a, Gwyneth, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, aharon, andrewc, kojiishi, kennyluck, trackbot
- 15:03:27 [r12a]
- regrets+ David
- 15:04:08 [aphillip]
- Regrets+ Felix
- 15:04:26 [Zakim]
- +??P20
- 15:04:31 [kojiishi]
- zakim, ??p20 is me
- 15:04:31 [Zakim]
- +kojiishi; got it
- 15:04:44 [aphillip]
- Topic: Agenda and Minutes
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- Topic: Action Items
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- +Norbert
- 15:05:51 [r12a]
- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
- 15:06:08 [aphillip]
- close ACTION-74
- 15:06:08 [trackbot]
- ACTION-74 Prep charmod-norm for publication and coordinate with richard closed
- 15:07:42 [aphillip]
- ACTION-109: waiting for response
- 15:07:42 [trackbot]
- ACTION-109 Check about Korean layout task force notes added
- 15:08:35 [aphillip]
- ACTION-112: aharon: spec is unacceptable and/or "nowhere", thought they were further along
- 15:08:35 [trackbot]
- ACTION-112 Review IRI bidi spec for two weeks from now notes added
- 15:09:52 [aphillip]
- close ACTION-112
- 15:09:52 [trackbot]
- ACTION-112 Review IRI bidi spec for two weeks from now closed
- 15:10:20 [aphillip]
- Work on tidying up Additional Requirements for Bidi in HTML & CSS over coming couple of months
- 15:10:46 [aphillip]
- close ACTION-114
- 15:10:46 [trackbot]
- ACTION-114 Send email about Multilingual Web Sites CG to list closed
- 15:11:17 [aphillip]
- close ACTION-119
- 15:11:17 [trackbot]
- ACTION-119 Send email to richard, copy member list, describing our support for encoding document effort and expressing our concerns closed
- 15:12:07 [aphillip]
- Topic: Info Share
- 15:12:26 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 15:12:37 [aphillip]
- charmod-norm update published
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- Topic: Ruby Document
- 15:13:20 [r12a]
- http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html
- 15:13:21 [aphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html
- 15:13:55 [aphillip]
- richard: four models
- 15:14:23 [aphillip]
- ... xhtml, html, inter-leaved rb/rt model, and "grouped rb" model
- 15:14:57 [aphillip]
- ... reorganized, rewritten, re....
- 15:15:05 [aphillip]
- ... updated summary, showing four models
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- richard: getting close to maybe publishing first public working draft
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- ... and talking to implementers
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- ... want WG to look at it first
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- richard: haven't looked through email, e.g. from Roland
- 15:16:10 [aphillip]
- ... so that's a summary
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- ... action to read it and send comments
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- ACTION: addison: remind WG members to read http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html with a mind to publishing FPWD (AND GROUP MEMBERS)
- 15:16:44 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-120 - Remind WG members to read http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html with a mind to publishing FPWD (AND GROUP MEMBERS) [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-05-09].
- 15:17:24 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 15:18:34 [aphillip]
- koji: please remind fantasai to look at it
- 15:18:50 [aphillip]
- ACTION: richard: ping non-WG members to look at Ruby document
- 15:18:50 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-121 - Ping non-WG members to look at Ruby document [on Richard Ishida - due 2012-05-09].
- 15:19:47 [aphillip]
- richard: koji, please send email for next week
- 15:20:05 [aphillip]
- Topic: Bidi Article and IRI Bidi Guidelines
- 15:20:51 [r12a]
- http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php
- 15:21:39 [aphillip]
- richard: editing with aharon, made changes even today
- 15:21:48 [aphillip]
- ... wanted everyone to read and see if right direction
- 15:22:13 [aphillip]
- richard: one issue here is that we're putting forward a "more markup filled" approach
- 15:22:42 [aphillip]
- ... questions: 1) any comments on document and 2) is approach reasonable
- 15:22:45 [r12a]
- http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php#together
- 15:32:00 [andrewc]
- could you try something like document.createElement('bdi'); and test for error?
- 15:46:40 [aphillip]
- ACTION: Gwyneth: check on <bdi> support in IE10
- 15:46:40 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-122 - Check on <bdi> support in IE10 [on Gwyneth Marshall - due 2012-05-09].
- 15:47:36 [r12a]
- http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/new-bidi-xhtml/Overview-inline.en.php#together
- 15:47:40 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 15:54:52 [aphillip]
- richard: want to bring back in a week from now for wide review
- 15:55:14 [aphillip]
- ... also a bunch of other documents waiting
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- ... see URIs:
- 15:55:29 [r12a]
- http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Core_Pipeline
- 15:57:19 [aphillip]
- ACTION: addison: remind all group members to review other bidi documents in the Core Pipeline for wide review by next week (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS)
- 15:57:19 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-123 - Remind all group members to review other bidi documents in the Core Pipeline for wide review by next week (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) [on Addison Phillips - due 2012-05-09].
- 15:57:48 [aphillip]
- Topic: AOB?
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- -Gwyneth
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- -Addison_Phillips
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- -kojiishi
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- -Norbert
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- -aharon
- 16:01:05 [andrewc]
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- Present: Addison, Richard, Aharon, Norbert, Andrew, Gwyneth, Koji
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- aharon has left #i18n
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 16:01:38 [aphillip]
- zakim, bye
- 16:01:50 [aphillip]
- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: addison: remind WG members to read http://www.w3.org/International/docs/ruby/editme.html with a mind to publishing FPWD (AND GROUP MEMBERS) [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-16-44
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- ACTION: richard: ping non-WG members to look at Ruby document [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-18-50
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- ACTION: Gwyneth: check on <bdi> support in IE10 [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-46-40
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- ACTION: addison: remind all group members to review other bidi documents in the Core Pipeline for wide review by next week (AND ALL GROUP MEMBERS) [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/02-i18n-irc#T15-57-19
- 16:01:53 [Zakim]
- -andrewc