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19:49:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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19:49:32 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:49:32 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
19:49:33 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
19:49:33 <trackbot> Date: 26 April 2012
19:52:08 <MichaelC> regrets: Andi_Snow-Weaver, Cherie_Ekholm
19:52:14 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2012AprJun/0042.html
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19:57:51 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:57:58 <Zakim> +Kathy
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20:00:21 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:00:45 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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20:00:52 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:01:43 <Zakim> +Loretta
20:02:03 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:02:07 <Zakim> +Judy
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20:02:14 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
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20:02:54 <judy> zakim, who's here?
20:02:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kathy, David_MacDonald, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bruce_Bailey (muted), Loretta, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Judy, [Oracle]
20:02:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see korn, Ryladog, David, Loretta_, Kathy, judy, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, trackbot
20:03:02 <korn> Zakim, [Oracle] is Peter
20:03:02 <Zakim> +Peter; got it
20:04:23 <judy> zakim, start meeting
20:04:23 <Zakim> I don't understand 'start meeting', judy
20:04:33 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow-Weaver
20:04:37 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:05:51 <Zakim> +Marc_Johlic
20:06:34 <Loretta_> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120426tf/results
20:06:48 <judy> http://www.w3.org/2012/04/WCAG2ICT-WorkStatement.html
20:07:16 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:07:29 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
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20:07:57 <Zakim> +??P10
20:07:59 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
20:08:10 <adam> zakim, ??P10 is adam_solomon
20:08:10 <Zakim> +adam_solomon; got it
20:08:42 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:10:41 <korn> q+
20:12:47 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
20:13:07 <MichaelC> topic: New Task Force Work Statement for 26 April 2012
20:13:31 <MichaelC> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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20:13:34 <Loretta_> ack k
20:13:47 <korn> q-
20:16:39 <korn> "The objective of WCAG2ICT Task Force is to develop documentation describing how to apply WCAG 2.0 and its principles, guidelines, success criteria and conformance requirements to non-Web Information and Communications Technologies (ICT)." becomes "The objective of WCAG2ICT Task Force is to develop documentation describing how to apply WCAG 2.0 and its principles, guidelines, and success criteria to non-Web Information and Communications Technologies (ICT)
20:17:04 <MichaelC> adjust conformance wording in first part of objective
20:17:37 <MichaelC> to above
20:17:40 <judy> q+
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20:18:13 <Loretta_> ack j
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20:18:21 <greggvanderheiden> q+
20:18:34 <korn> q-
20:19:02 <Loretta_> ack g
20:19:11 <Loretta_> q+
20:19:25 <korn> q+
20:19:51 <judy> q+
20:20:03 <Loretta_> ack l
20:20:17 <Kathy> q+
20:21:12 <Loretta_> ack k
20:21:20 <Loretta_> ack korn
20:21:43 <korn> q-
20:21:49 <Loretta_> ack  j
20:22:16 <Kathy> q+
20:23:08 <Loretta_> ack k
20:23:14 <korn> q+
20:24:28 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:24:29 <Loretta_> ack k
20:24:36 <Zakim> + +1.647.537.aaaa
20:25:14 <Judy> q+ to suggest to Loretta that she may want to set a time limit for this particular qu, so that we can make it to the end of the work statement this time, there are other sections to check
20:25:22 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:25:22 <korn> q-
20:25:50 <MichaelC> zakim, aaaa is Alex_Li
20:25:50 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:25:53 <greggvanderheiden> non-web ICT (including electronic documents, applications, user interface aspects of platforms, and software aspects of hardware and software products that affect user experience but not hardware aspects of a product). 
20:26:09 <Loretta_> ack j
20:26:09 <Zakim> Judy, you wanted to suggest to Loretta that she may want to set a time limit for this particular qu, so that we can make it to the end of the work statement this time, there are
20:26:12 <Zakim> ... other sections to check
20:27:47 <Judy> http://www.w3.org/2012/04/WCAG2ICT-WorkStatement.html#dependencies
20:28:47 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:30:22 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
20:30:34 <Kathy> zakim, mute me
20:30:34 <Zakim> Kathy should now be muted
20:31:39 <Loretta_> q+
20:32:22 <korn> q+
20:32:46 <Loretta_> ack l
20:32:46 <korn> q-
20:33:14 <greggvanderheiden> q+
20:33:26 <Zakim> +??P11
20:33:53 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P11 is Alex_Li
20:33:53 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:34:00 <Loretta_> ack b
20:35:27 <Loretta_> ack g
20:35:58 <greggvanderheiden> q-
20:36:06 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
20:36:25 <Loretta_> zakim, who is making noise?
20:36:35 <Zakim> Loretta_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (5%)
20:36:48 <David> zakim, mute Bruce_Bailey
20:36:48 <Zakim> Bruce_Bailey should now be muted
20:38:09 <Judy> http://www.w3.org/2012/04/WCAG2ICT-WorkStatement.html#participation
20:44:40 <korn> This activity is consistent with the WCAG WG charter which states that <a href=...> its scope of work</a> includes "Coordinating with other entities adopting and using WCAG 2.0."
20:44:40 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
20:44:50 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:45:00 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:45:37 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Alex_Li
20:45:37 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:48:05 <korn> q+
20:48:33 <korn> q-
20:51:18 <korn> q+
20:51:52 <Judy> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120426tf/results
20:52:26 <korn> q-
20:52:29 <Loretta_> ack k
20:52:30 <Judy> q+
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20:55:33 <Judy> ack ju
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20:56:34 <korn> q-
20:56:37 <Judy> q+
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20:57:24 <Loretta_> ack ju
20:58:42 <Loretta_> ack l
21:00:53 <Zakim> -Andi_Snow-Weaver
21:01:50 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: WCAG2ICT Task Force work statement accepted with edits
21:04:11 <Loretta_> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120412misc/results#x2584
21:04:16 <Zakim> -adam_solomon
21:04:55 <MichaelC> topic: LC-2584 : The description of what is sufficient to pass as a simple table is insufficient
21:05:26 <Judy> Judy has left #wai-wcag
21:05:32 <Zakim> -Judy
21:05:48 <korn> I'm dropping off now as well.  Thanks!
21:05:52 <Zakim> -Peter
21:06:01 <Loretta_> zakim, who is here?
21:06:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kathy (muted), Katie_Haritos-Shea, Loretta, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Cooper, Marc_Johlic, David_MacDonald, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Bruce_Bailey (muted), Alex_Li
21:06:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see greggvanderheiden, korn, Ryladog, David, Loretta_, Kathy, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, trackbot
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21:06:58 <Kathy> zakim, unmute me
21:06:58 <Zakim> Kathy should no longer be muted
21:08:50 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:09:19 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
21:10:24 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:11:47 <awk> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PA/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-TECHS/H51.html
21:16:02 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:22:23 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:24:15 <Loretta_> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120419TF/results#x2607
21:24:52 <MichaelC> leave open
21:25:23 <MichaelC> topic: LC-2607 : Headings
21:27:39 <Loretta_> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PA/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-TECHS/H42.html
21:29:24 <David> Authors are encouraged to nest headings hierarchically.
21:30:40 <awk> Kathy, here's a starter wiki page: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques/HTML/Thoughts_on_HTML_Table_Techniques
21:31:11 <awk> (the category stuff is a bit confusing at first, edit the page to see)
21:32:44 <MichaelC> return to this next week
21:33:11 <MichaelC> topic: LC-2608 : Why is Focus Visible Level AA
21:33:18 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20120426misc/results
21:33:23 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept with edits
21:37:28 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:37:32 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
21:37:41 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:37:45 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
21:37:46 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:37:46 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:37:47 <Zakim> -Loretta
21:37:49 <Zakim> -Kathy
21:37:51 <Zakim> -Cooper
21:37:51 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:37:51 <Zakim> Attendees were Kathy, David_MacDonald, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Judy, Peter, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Cooper, Marc_Johlic, adam_solomon,
21:37:53 <Zakim> ... +1.647.537.aaaa, Alex_Li, Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:37:57 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
21:37:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/26-wai-wcag-minutes.html MichaelC
21:39:16 <greggvanderheiden> Michael, can you call me   608 263-5788
21:40:41 <Loretta_> Should I call you, too?
21:44:08 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
21:44:08 <RRSAgent> I see no action items