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13:46:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
13:46:57 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
13:46:57 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
13:46:58 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
13:46:58 <trackbot> Date: 25 April 2012
13:47:12 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Apr/0042.html
13:48:12 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:48:27 <fjh> Present+ Robin_Berjon, Frederick_Hirsch
13:48:47 <Josh_Soref> Present+ Josh_Soref
13:51:37 <dtran> dtran has joined #dap
13:51:56 <dtran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
13:53:51 <mparaz> mparaz has joined #dap
13:55:09 <spoussa> spoussa has joined #dap
13:56:46 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
13:56:53 <Zakim> +??P1
13:57:10 <glenn> zakim, ??p1 is glenn
13:57:10 <Zakim> +glenn; got it
13:57:48 <Zakim> +??P9
13:57:49 <Zakim> +dtran
13:57:53 <fjh> zakim, ??P9 i sme
13:57:53 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P9 i sme', fjh
13:58:00 <Zakim> +??P8
13:58:02 <fjh> zakim, ??p9 is me
13:58:02 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
13:58:26 <milanpatel> milanpatel has joined #dap
13:58:48 <mparaz> zakim, ??P8 is me
13:58:48 <Zakim> +mparaz; got it
13:58:53 <Zakim> +spoussa
13:59:07 <fjh> Regrets+ Niklas_Widell, Travis_Leithead
13:59:53 <Zakim> +milan
14:00:02 <Zakim> +Josh_Soref
14:00:41 <Zakim> +??P18
14:00:47 <darobin> Zakim, >>P18 is me
14:00:47 <Zakim> sorry, darobin, I do not recognize a party named '>>P18'
14:00:51 <darobin> Zakim, ??P18 is me
14:00:51 <Zakim> +darobin; got it
14:01:05 <Josh_Soref> Scribe: Josh_Soref 
14:01:17 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute me
14:01:17 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should now be muted
14:01:27 <spoussa> Present+ Sakari_Poussa
14:02:03 <Josh_Soref> Rrsagent, draft minutes 
14:02:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-dap-minutes.html Josh_Soref
14:02:27 <bryan> bryan has joined #dap
14:02:39 <Josh_Soref> Rrsagent, make logs public 
14:03:10 <Cathy> Cathy has joined #dap
14:03:11 <Zakim> +Bryan_Sullivan
14:03:27 <bryan> present+ Bryan_Sullivan
14:03:27 <AnssiK> AnssiK has joined #dap
14:03:27 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Minutes Approval 
14:03:33 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.00.aaaa
14:03:34 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
14:03:40 <fjh> Approve minutes from 18 April
14:03:40 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2012Apr/att-0041/minutes-2012-04-18.html
14:03:40 <fjh> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 18 April 2012 are approved.
14:03:42 <Claes> Claes has joined #dap
14:04:06 <Zakim> +Cathy
14:04:17 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: Minutes from 18 April 2012 are approved.
14:04:33 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Face to Face 
14:04:46 <darobin> +1 to approve
14:04:47 <fjh> Date for next F2F week will be  9 July for a 3 day  meeting? (e.g. 10-12 July?)
14:04:47 <fjh> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/dap-20120413/results
14:04:52 <Clarke> Clarke has joined #dap
14:05:33 <Josh_Soref> Claes: are the plans to have a joint meeting with webintents?
14:05:38 <fjh> week of 9-13, 23 responses, 16-20, 16
14:05:46 <Zakim> +??P24
14:05:50 <Josh_Soref> Darobin: we should ask them 
14:05:55 <Clarke> zakim, ??P24 is me
14:05:55 <Zakim> +Clarke; got it
14:05:56 <bryan> also Media Capture TF should be asked if they can join
14:06:08 <Josh_Soref> ... Are you asking for a specific reason 
14:06:23 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to ask Intents TF if they want to join our f2f
14:06:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-535 - Ask Intents TF if they want to join our f2f [on Robin Berjon - due 2012-05-02].
14:06:27 <Deep> Deep has joined #dap
14:06:27 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to ask gUM TF if they want to join our f2f
14:06:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-536 - Ask gUM TF if they want to join our f2f [on Robin Berjon - due 2012-05-02].
14:06:32 <Josh_Soref> Claes: I just have vacations for that month 
14:07:11 <Zakim> +??P27
14:07:15 <darobin> ACTION: Robin to get back to Diana about hosting
14:07:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-537 - Get back to Diana about hosting [on Robin Berjon - due 2012-05-02].
14:07:27 <Josh_Soref> RESOLUTION: Next F2F will be 10-12 of July 
14:07:47 <Deep> Present+ Deepanshu_Gautam
14:08:03 <Josh_Soref> Bryan: that week overlaps with OMA
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14:08:10 <Clarke> Present+ Clarke_Stevens
14:08:31 <Josh_Soref> Darobin: we tried to look around, that was the best 
14:08:32 <Josh_Soref> ..
14:08:33 <Deep> zakim mute me
14:08:41 <Claes> Present+ Claes_Nilsson
14:08:51 <fjh> zakim, who is making noise?
14:09:01 <Josh_Soref> ... It was that or September
14:09:02 <Zakim> fjh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 13 (9%)
14:09:09 <darobin> Zakim, mute 13
14:09:09 <Zakim> sorry, darobin, I do not know which phone connection belongs to 13
14:09:25 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, who is on the call?
14:09:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see glenn (muted), fjh, dtran (muted), mparaz, spoussa, milan (muted), Josh_Soref (muted), darobin (muted), Bryan_Sullivan, +46.1.08.00.aaaa, Cathy, Clarke, ??P27
14:09:44 <Josh_Soref> Topic: Battery and Vibration CR
14:09:52 <fjh> status of CR transition?
14:09:59 <darobin> Zakim, aaaa is probably Claes 
14:09:59 <Zakim> +Claes?; got it
14:10:11 <darobin> Zakim, ??P27 is probably Deep
14:10:11 <Zakim> +Deep?; got it
14:10:58 <spoussa> *Zakim, mute me*
14:10:58 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
14:11:11 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
14:11:11 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
14:11:17 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, mute spoussa
14:11:17 <Zakim> spoussa should now be muted
14:11:42 <Josh_Soref> Darobin: call for Friday 
14:11:59 <darobin> s/call for Friday/hopefully call for Friday/
14:12:36 <Josh_Soref> Fjh: any other way APIs to talk about? 
14:12:44 <fjh> Topic: issue review
14:12:45 <fjh> ISSUE-81?
14:12:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-81 -- How to represent dates? ES has Date but with no TZ information; using strings is less than ideal; do we have to create a Web Dates specification? -- open
14:12:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/81
14:12:59 <fjh> ISSUE-81 closed
14:12:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-81 How to represent dates? ES has Date but with no TZ information; using strings is less than ideal; do we have to create a Web Dates specification? closed
14:13:05 <Josh_Soref> Darobin:. No
14:13:07 <fjh> ISSUE-105?
14:13:07 <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- Should the capture hint in HTML Media Capture be specified through a MIME parameter? -- open
14:13:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/105
14:13:37 <fjh> ISSUE-109?
14:13:37 <trackbot> ISSUE-109 -- We need solid use cases for Feat Perms if it's going to fly -- open
14:13:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/109
14:13:46 <darobin> close ISSUE-109
14:13:46 <trackbot> ISSUE-109 We need solid use cases for Feat Perms if it's going to fly closed
14:13:48 <fjh> ISSUE-109: we decided at F2F not to progress Feature Permissions as notifications is only clear use case now
14:13:49 <trackbot> ISSUE-109 We need solid use cases for Feat Perms if it's going to fly notes added
14:14:05 <fjh> ISSUE-116?
14:14:05 <trackbot> ISSUE-116 -- HTML Media Capture doesn't make sense if accept=image and capture=microphone -- open
14:14:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/116
14:14:15 <fjh> ISSUE-117?
14:14:15 <trackbot> ISSUE-117 -- Should HTML Media Capture have options for front/user camera as in getUserMedia -- open
14:14:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/117
14:14:24 <fjh> ISSUE-121?
14:14:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-121 -- Scope of sensor API and sensor discovery -- open
14:14:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/121
14:14:35 <fjh> ISSUE-121: We have removed discovery from the sensor API
14:14:35 <trackbot> ISSUE-121 Scope of sensor API and sensor discovery notes added
14:15:07 <Josh_Soref> Zakim, unmute me
14:15:07 <Zakim> Josh_Soref should no longer be muted
14:15:30 <Josh_Soref> Claes: my mail was the status of my actions 
14:15:34 <Deep> Zakim, mute me
14:15:34 <Zakim> Deep? should now be muted
14:15:43 <Josh_Soref> q+
14:16:28 <Josh_Soref> q-
14:16:47 <Josh_Soref> Topic: AOB
14:16:57 <Zakim> -spoussa
14:16:59 <Zakim> -milan
14:17:00 <Zakim> -Clarke
14:17:01 <Zakim> -Claes?
14:17:01 <Zakim> -darobin
14:17:03 <Zakim> -Bryan_Sullivan
14:17:03 <Zakim> -adrianba
14:17:05 <Zakim> -dtran
14:17:08 <Zakim> -Cathy
14:17:12 <Josh_Soref> Fjh: I don't think I'll be on next call
14:17:15 <adrianba> adrianba has left #dap
14:17:18 <Zakim> -glenn
14:17:22 <Zakim> -Deep?
14:17:26 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:17:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-dap-minutes.html fjh
14:17:32 <Josh_Soref> Darobin: ok, I'll do it 
14:17:50 <Josh_Soref> [ Adjourned ]
14:17:55 <Zakim> -fjh
14:18:09 <Josh_Soref> s|..||
14:18:37 <Josh_Soref> Trackbot, end meeting 
14:18:37 <trackbot> Sorry, Josh_Soref, I don't understand 'Trackbot, end meeting '. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
14:18:49 <Josh_Soref> Trackbot, end meeting
14:18:49 <trackbot> Sorry, Josh_Soref, I don't understand 'Trackbot, end meeting'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
14:19:08 <darobin> FWIW I just did a clean up pass through actions and closed ACTION-315, ACTION-360, ACTION-416, ACTION-421, ACTION-424, ACTION-430, ACTION-444, ACTION-459, ACTION-462, ACTION-471, ACTION-481, ACTION-486, ACTION-494, ACTION-513
14:19:46 <Zakim> -Josh_Soref
14:19:47 <darobin> Zakim, drop mparaz 
14:19:47 <Zakim> mparaz is being disconnected
14:19:47 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
14:19:49 <Zakim> Attendees were glenn, dtran, fjh, mparaz, spoussa, milan, Josh_Soref, darobin, Bryan_Sullivan, +46.1.08.00.aaaa, Cathy, Clarke, Claes?, Deep?, adrianba
14:20:02 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
14:20:09 <Zakim> +??P1
14:20:21 <darobin> Zakim, drop ??P1
14:20:21 <Zakim> ??P1 is being disconnected
14:20:22 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
14:20:22 <Zakim> Attendees were 
14:21:32 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
14:21:39 <Zakim> +??P1
14:21:51 <AnssiK> zakim, ??P1 is me
14:21:51 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
14:23:06 <darobin> Zakim, drop AnssiK 
14:23:06 <Zakim> AnssiK is being disconnected
14:23:07 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
14:23:07 <Zakim> Attendees were AnssiK
14:23:07 <darobin> :)
14:23:25 <Josh_Soref> trackbot, end meeting
14:23:25 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:23:25 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:23:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:23:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-dap-minutes.html trackbot
14:23:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:23:34 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-dap-actions.rdf :
14:23:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Robin to ask Intents TF if they want to join our f2f [1]
14:23:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-dap-irc#T14-06-23
14:23:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Robin to ask gUM TF if they want to join our f2f [2]
14:23:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-dap-irc#T14-06-27-1
14:23:34 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Robin to get back to Diana about hosting [3]
14:23:34 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/04/25-dap-irc#T14-07-15