IRC log of html-wg on 2012-04-05
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be html_wg
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- ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
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- Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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- Date: 05 April 2012
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- +[Microsoft]
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- + +1.619.846.aaaa
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- Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
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- +krisk; got it
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- +Sam
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- +[Microsoft]
- 16:00:59 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, call Mike
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- ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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- +Mike
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- zakim, microsoft has me
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- +eliot; got it
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- +Radhika_Roy
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- +??P9
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- zakim, ??P9 is Janina
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- +Janina; got it
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- +??P8
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- + +49.251.280.aabb
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- Zakim, +49.251.280.aabb is me
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- +Julian; got it
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- Zakim, mute me
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- Julian should now be muted
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- + +1.858.735.aacc
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- zakim, ??p8 is glenn
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- +glenn; got it
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- +[Microsoft.a]
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- Zakim, aaaa is me
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- +hober; got it
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- zakim, I am +1.858.735.aacc
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- +KevinStreeter; got it
- 16:03:28 [paulc]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- On the phone I see joesteele, krisk, hober, [Microsoft], Sam, Mike, Radhika_Roy, Janina, glenn (muted), Julian (muted), KevinStreeter, [Microsoft.a]
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- [Microsoft] has eliot
- 16:03:31 [rubys]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0001.html
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- Scribe: krisk
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- zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
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- +paulc; got it
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- Chair: rubys
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- ACTION items due by Thursday, April 5
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- Sorry, couldn't find user - items
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- items due by Thursday, April 5
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- None
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- +[Microsoft.aa]
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- New Issues This Week
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- zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
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- +adrianba; got it
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- None
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- Items Closed Last Week
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- A number...
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- ISSUE-80: title-alternative, Call for Consensus closed Mar 28
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- ISSUE-80 document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content notes added
- 16:04:59 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
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- ISSUE-134: tab-states, Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
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- ISSUE-134 Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively notes added
- 16:05:26 [krisk]
- see -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0547.html
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- ISSUE-191: ins-del, Revise Change Proposals closed Mar 28
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- ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution notes added
- 16:05:47 [krisk]
- issue has been postponed - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html
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- ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Call for Counter Proposals closed Mar 28
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- ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements notes added
- 16:05:59 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0466.html
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- two proposals have been submitted that the co-chairs will evaluate
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- ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
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- ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content notes added
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0687.html
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- Resulted in a decision
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- ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
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- ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling behaviour notes added
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0688.html
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- This also resulted in a decision
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- ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Consensus closed Mar 29
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- ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes added
- 16:07:06 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0689.html
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- This also resulted in a decision
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- ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Revise Change Proposals closes Apr 2
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- ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added
- 16:07:29 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0550.html
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- proposals have been updated, not actions taken
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- s/have been/have not been/
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- ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Counter Proposals closes Apr 3
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- ISSUE-198 Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy notes added
- 16:08:17 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0222.html
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- Later in the agenda we'll see a CfC for this issue
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- Next Agenda Item - Items Closing This Week
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- ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Counter Proposals extension closes Apr 5
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- ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
- 16:09:28 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0685.html
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- Next Agenda Item New Calls this week
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- Actually the next agenda item is Items closing next week
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- ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Counter Proposals extension closes Apr 11
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- ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content notes added
- 16:10:12 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0686.html
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- Any questions or comments on the above?
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- Agenda Item New Calls this week
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- ISSUE-184: data-element, Call for Consensus closes Apr 11
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- ISSUE-184 Add a data element notes added
- 16:11:18 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0026.html
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- As mentioned above ISSUE-198: innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Consensus closes Apr 11
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0025.html
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- Next Agenda Item New Surveys this week
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- We have one new survey this week
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- ISSUE-158: object-content-model - Straw Poll for Objections
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- ISSUE-158 HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue notes added
- 16:12:17 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0784.html
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- Next up is 'Decisions this week'
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- ISSUE-80 Working Group Decision
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0785.html
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- ISSUE-191 Postponed
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0783.html
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- ISSUE-193 Working Group Decision
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0786.html
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- The CfC passed
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- ISSUE-196 Working Group Decision
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0787.html
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- This also passed the CfC
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- ISSUE-197 Working Group Decision
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0788.html
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- This also passed a CfC
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- Next Up Is Task Force Reports
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- Accessibility Task Force Update
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- We conitune to work on issues
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- key item might ask a postpone on issue 201
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- would like to discuss this at the F2F in May
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- The hope and expectations is that in the F2F we can agree on a resolution that works for everyone in the group
- 16:17:11 [paulc]
- See http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/May2012Agenda#Agenda_May_3
- 16:17:15 [krisk]
- A good time would be on thursday afternoon at the F2F to discuss
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- Sam - are you asking for an extension of postponment?
- 16:18:00 [krisk]
- Janina - we are asking for an extension
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- s/extension of/extension or/
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- Next Update Testing Task Force
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- We will meet April 10th
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- Microsoft submitted some range/progress tests
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- See -> http://www.w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/range/range.htm
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- See -> http://www.w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/progress/progress.htm
- 16:19:55 [krisk]
- James and Mike Smith have mirrored the Hg Repository to Git
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- See -> https://github.com/w3c/html-testsuite
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- The hope is that this helps people participate and review tests more effectively
- 16:20:38 [MikeSmith]
- q+ to say that I need some help setting up the secure ports for Jetty (for WebSockets testing)
- 16:20:52 [krisk]
- The git hub is read-only so it's only one way
- 16:21:09 [rubys]
- ack next
- 16:21:11 [Zakim]
- MikeSmith, you wanted to say that I need some help setting up the secure ports for Jetty (for WebSockets testing)
- 16:22:21 [krisk]
- Webapps related - mike smith could use some help with the websocket server setup (secure ports)
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- Any other questions for the testing task force?
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- Next Up Is any other business
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- Call for agenda topics for May face-to-face meeting
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- Please update the wiki
- 16:23:36 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0006.html
- 16:23:38 [rubys]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/May2012Agenda
- 16:23:49 [krisk]
- Next up is the CfC: Create Media Task Force
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Apr/0007.html
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- This closes on tues April 10th
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- Heartbeat Documents Published
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0774.html
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- Thanks Mike Smith!
- 16:25:00 [krisk]
- Next Up Is ISSUE 134: change proposal review
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- Two proposals
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0781.html
- 16:25:17 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0782.html
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- Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2012-03-19 - 2012-03-25
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- This covers business beyond HTML5, for example WebApps
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- http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/03/openweb-weekly-30.html
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- Any other business that people would like to discuss?
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- None mentioned
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- Scribe for next meeting?
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- hober would like to scribe
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- -Radhika_Roy
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- Adjournment
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- -Janina
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- -hober
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -KevinStreeter
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- -Sam
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- -[Microsoft.a]
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- -adrianba
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- -joesteele
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- -glenn
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- -Julian
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/05-html-wg-minutes.html krisk
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- krisk:
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- 2012-04-05 16:27:46.176:WARN:oejuc.AbstractLifeCycle:FAILED SslContextFactory@61c80b01(keystore.chain,keystore.chain): java.io.FileNotFoundException: /opt/
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- jetty/webapps/echo-test/keystore.chain (No such file or directory)
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- java.io.FileNotFoundException: /opt/jetty/webapps/echo-test/keystore.chain (No such file or directory)
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- missing "keystore.chain" file
- 16:29:27 [krisk]
- OK this helps
- 16:30:08 [krisk]
- I'll take a peek on my end and see what needs to be done
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- -Mike
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- -krisk
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- HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were joesteele, +1.619.846.aaaa, krisk, Sam, Mike, eliot, Radhika_Roy, Janina, Julian, +1.858.735.aacc, glenn, [Microsoft], hober, KevinStreeter, paulc, adrianba
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- validator: 03Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 9d445b55306e r434 10validator/src/nu/validator/messages/MessageEmitterAdapter.java: Don't emit info-level messages in gnu output.
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