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10:41:13 <florian> Zakim, this will be MAWG
10:41:13 <Zakim> ok, florian; I see IA_MAWG()7:00AM scheduled to start in 19 minutes
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10:59:15 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()7:00AM has now started
10:59:23 <Zakim> +wbailer
11:00:08 <wbailer> zakim, this is mawg
11:00:08 <Zakim> wbailer, this was already IA_MAWG()7:00AM
11:00:09 <Zakim> ok, wbailer; that matches IA_MAWG()7:00AM
11:00:18 <wbailer> meeting: MAWG Telco
11:00:28 <wbailer> rrsagent, make logs publi
11:00:32 <wbailer> rrsagent, make logs public
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11:00:48 <Zakim> + +82.31.27.9.aaaa
11:01:27 <wbailer> zakim, aaaa is daniel
11:01:27 <Zakim> +daniel; got it
11:01:31 <wbailer> chair: daniel
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11:01:45 <Zakim> +??P2
11:01:51 <Zakim> +florian
11:02:02 <Zakim> -florian
11:02:10 <tmichel> zakim, who is here ?
11:02:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see wbailer, daniel, ??P2
11:02:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see pchampin, tmichel, wbailer, daniel, RRSAgent, Zakim, florian, trackbot
11:02:17 <wbailer> present: daniel, florian, thierry, werner
11:02:32 <florian> somehow lost the line...
11:02:50 <daniel> PA are you coming to the call now ?
11:03:00 <pchampin> yep, just starting linphone
11:03:01 <Zakim> +florian
11:03:24 <Zakim> +??P4
11:03:41 <pchampin> this is me
11:03:44 <wbailer> zakim, P4 is pierre-antoine
11:03:44 <Zakim> sorry, wbailer, I do not recognize a party named 'P4'
11:03:47 <pchampin> zakim, ??P4 is me
11:03:47 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it
11:04:02 <wbailer> present+ pierre-antoine
11:04:09 <tmichel> Unfortunatly not much participants, I had asked people to join the call to have a quorum ...
11:04:29 <wbailer> scribe wbailer
11:04:37 <wbailer> topic: open actions
11:04:45 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:04:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/27-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
11:05:16 <wbailer> daniel to remind wonsuk about his open actions
11:05:43 <wbailer> close action-460
11:05:43 <trackbot> ACTION-460 Get new youtube example files with help of sebastian closed
11:08:45 <wbailer> action 465 no news on webkit, but implementation in python planned/ongoing, daniel will ask wonsuk about news
11:08:45 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 465
11:08:57 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:08:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/27-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
11:09:28 <wbailer> florian proposes to ask media fragment participants about contacts to webkit
11:10:15 <wbailer> action: daniel to contact media fragment group about getting media annotation implementation into webkit
11:10:15 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - daniel
11:10:23 <wbailer> action: soohong to contact media fragment group about getting media annotation implementation into webkit
11:10:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-468 - Contact media fragment group about getting media annotation implementation into webkit [on Soohong Daniel Park - due 2012-04-03].
11:10:37 <florian> maybe the fragment guys can bring is in there since nothing happened for months...
11:10:41 <wbailer> s/465/462/
11:10:46 <wbailer> close action-465
11:10:46 <trackbot> ACTION-465 Check with Florian if there are updates to be done in the PR version closed
11:10:51 <wbailer> topic: API document
11:11:18 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:11:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/27-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
11:12:06 <wbailer> open issues: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2012Mar/0049.html
11:13:42 <wbailer> issue 1: status codes in JSON examples
11:13:52 <wbailer> issue 2: points on fragment identifiers in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Dec/0024.html
11:13:55 <tmichel> second issue:
11:13:56 <tmichel> > There are the issues about fragments without identifiers in the source,
11:13:56 <tmichel> and resources/fragments with multiple identifiers (see [2]). This is something
11:13:56 <tmichel> to go into implementation notes/best practices, either as informative
11:13:56 <tmichel> section/annex of the API document or as a separate note. 
11:17:00 <wbailer> issue 2a: multiple identifiers for fragment/resource
11:17:28 <wbailer> ... proposal is to return all the identifiers, and allow queries for fragments using each of the identifiers
11:18:27 <florian> +1 thierry
11:20:34 <pchampin> "canonical" identifier?
11:23:18 <wbailer> resolution for issue 2a: proposal agreed
11:23:30 <wbailer> action: werner to draft text on multiple identifiers
11:23:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-469 - Draft text on multiple identifiers [on Werner Bailer - due 2012-04-03].
11:23:46 <wbailer> issue 2b: fragment without identifiers
11:25:52 <wbailer> ... proposal: API generates identifier, that can be used to query properties of the fragment
11:26:11 <wbailer> ... API ensures it remains valid for a defined time, eg a session, but not beyond
11:28:50 <pchampin> the API ensures it remains valid for at least a defined time
11:31:32 <wbailer> for server side, to make the protocol stateless, the identifier should remain valid for all clients for a defined time after the last access
11:33:37 <wbailer> action: werner to send draft text on missing fragment identifier issue to mailing list
11:33:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-470 - Send draft text on missing fragment identifier issue to mailing list [on Werner Bailer - due 2012-04-03].
11:34:36 <wbailer> thierry: place to add this text?
11:36:01 <wbailer> werner to propose a place where to add the text
11:46:51 <wbailer> JSON examples in section 3.1 and 3.2 do not include missing properties
11:47:19 <wbailer> ... we should add a sentence stating that they are not included in the JSON response and point to the generic no JSON file
11:47:43 <wbailer> we should check the 2xx status codes in general and atomic JSON repsonses
11:48:40 <wbailer> action: florian to draft text for start of section 3 about missing properties in the responses
11:48:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-471 - Draft text for start of section 3 about missing properties in the responses [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2012-04-03].
11:51:00 <wbailer> action: werner to compile list of status code issues
11:51:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-472 - Compile list of status code issues [on Werner Bailer - due 2012-04-03].
11:53:00 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:53:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/27-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
11:54:48 <tmichel> Resoluition: The MAWG agrees to move the API spec to PR after inclusion of the two resolutions taken during this call.
11:54:56 <wbailer> +1
11:55:06 <tmichel> The document should be frozen friday night.
11:55:10 <pchampin> +1
11:55:14 <tmichel> +1
11:55:22 <daniel> +1
11:55:42 <florian> +1
11:55:57 <tmichel> Resolution: above proposal (resolution) adopted.
11:58:00 <wbailer> thierry: remaining actions
11:58:07 <wbailer> ... finish implementation report
11:58:19 <wbailer> ... advertise API, eg with Webkit
11:58:26 <wbailer> ... finish additional mappings
11:59:38 <wbailer> topic: additional mappings
12:00:18 <wbailer> action: thierry to remind mari-carmen to finalise schema.org mapping
12:00:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-473 - Remind mari-carmen to finalise schema.org mapping [on Thierry Michel - due 2012-04-03].
12:00:32 <wbailer> [adjourned]
12:00:33 <Zakim> -florian
12:00:35 <Zakim> -??P2
12:00:35 <Zakim> -daniel
12:00:36 <Zakim> -wbailer
12:00:38 <Zakim> -pchampin
12:00:38 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()7:00AM has ended
12:00:38 <Zakim> Attendees were wbailer, +82.31.27.9.aaaa, daniel, florian, pchampin
12:00:38 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:00:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/27-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
12:00:40 <wbailer> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:00:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/27-mediaann-minutes.html wbailer
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