14:05:20 RRSAgent has joined #gld 14:05:20 logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-gld-irc 14:05:50 trackbot, start meeting 14:05:53 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:05:53 Zakim has joined #gld 14:05:55 Zakim, this will be GLD 14:05:55 ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started 14:05:56 Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference 14:05:56 Date: 22 March 2012 14:06:00 Zakim, who's here? 14:06:00 On the phone I see davidwood, olyerickson, George_Thomas, [LC], +1.443.569.aaaa, gatemezi, ??P10, Mike_P, sandro 14:06:02 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, ZacharyWhitley, martin, tinagheen, George, gatemezi, DaveReynolds, olyerickson, bhyland, trackbot, sandro 14:06:06 Zakim, [LC] is me 14:06:06 +tinagheen; got it 14:06:09 Agenda:http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120322 14:06:27 +[IPcaller] 14:06:31 Topic: LAst week minutes 14:06:34 zakim, who is here? 14:06:34 On the phone I see davidwood, olyerickson, George_Thomas, tinagheen, +1.443.569.aaaa, gatemezi, ??P10, Mike_P, sandro, [IPcaller] 14:06:35 zakim, IPcaller is me 14:06:36 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, ZacharyWhitley, martin, tinagheen, George, gatemezi, DaveReynolds, olyerickson, bhyland, trackbot, sandro 14:06:36 +DaveReynolds; got it 14:06:49 + +91.11.41.29.aabb 14:06:59 -DaveReynolds 14:07:02 Minutes URL last meeting:http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-03-15 14:07:38 Yigal has joined #gld 14:07:49 zakim, ??P10 is probably me 14:07:49 +martin?; got it 14:08:06 Biplav has joined #gld 14:08:12 zakim, who is here? 14:08:12 On the phone I see davidwood, olyerickson, George_Thomas, tinagheen, +1.443.569.aaaa, gatemezi, martin?, Mike_P, sandro, +91.11.41.29.aabb 14:08:15 On IRC I see Biplav, Yigal, Zakim, RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, ZacharyWhitley, martin, tinagheen, George, gatemezi, DaveReynolds, olyerickson, bhyland, trackbot, sandro 14:08:19 deirdrelee has joined #gld 14:08:41 +??P20 14:09:04 zakim, ??p20 is me 14:09:04 +Yigal; got it 14:09:07 +1 last week's minutes 14:09:08 + 1 14:09:09 +1 accept 14:09:10 +1 14:09:19 +1 last week's minute 14:09:35 zakim, aaaa is me 14:09:35 +ZacharyWhitley; got it 14:09:46 RESOLVED:Minutes of the last minutes 14:09:53 I'm ??p20 and am muted 14:10:19 rreck has joined #GLD 14:10:20 bhyland, I just fixed the "Approved" / "Resolved" thing in the minutes from the 8th. 14:10:26 DaveReynolds has joined #gld 14:10:34 Topic:DCAT 14:10:35 -1 to knowing anything 14:10:58 issue-8? 14:10:58 ISSUE-8 -- add a property to distinguish direct and indirect access of dcat:Distribution -- raised 14:10:58 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/8 14:11:05 +[IPcaller] 14:11:09 zakim, IPcaller is me 14:11:09 +DaveReynolds; got it 14:11:10 issue-9? 14:11:10 ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised 14:11:10 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9 14:11:19 +deirdrelee 14:11:57 +rreck 14:12:33 olyerickson: reminds that we can close the issue or turn it to action if we feel so 14:12:50 ...or for some examination needed... 14:13:06 MacTed has joined #gld 14:13:12 olyerickson: We have a number of issues that have been "raised" but some number of them should be moved to "open" or "closed", or other suitable status. 14:13:27 issue-7? 14:13:27 ISSUE-7 -- Drop dcat:accessUrl, use the URI of the dcat:Download resource instead -- raised 14:13:27 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7 14:13:57 @martin: issue 7 is ok to be closed 14:14:11 +1 to closing issue-7 14:14:12 s/@martin/martin 14:15:11 Closing the issue without actions 14:15:47 sandro: we need to see if PhilA is ok with closing this issue-7 14:17:21 sandro: So, if ISSUE-7 was originally raised by Ed Summers, let's have someone get back to him and see if he still cares, etc. 14:17:56 subtopic: issue-9 14:19:01 issue-9? 14:19:01 ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised 14:19:01 http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9 14:19:23 @olyerickson: this model allows for multiple model distribution... give extensibility mechanism 14:21:12 s/@olyerickson/olyerickson 14:21:36 q+ 14:22:55 Sandro: to send an email to ??? 14:23:06 s/???/Ed Summers at LoC/ 14:23:09 Ed Summers at Library of Congress 14:24:14 Olyerickson to send finally an email to Ed Summers at Library of Congress to invite them to the group or for feedback 14:24:45 s/Olyerickson/olyerickson 14:26:24 q? 14:26:40 q+ 14:26:58 olyerickson: issue-9 is a no issue.. 14:27:09 s/no/non 14:27:27 @martin: agree to simplify the vocab... 14:27:39 s/@martin/martin 14:27:46 So @martin says simplify, @olyerickson says keep it "complicated" (as it) 14:28:07 correction: @martin says "simple enough" 14:28:53 s/@martin/martin 14:28:56 I will present "concensus" to Ed Summers 14:29:28 q? 14:29:38 q- 14:29:56 -tinagheen 14:30:21 George: have also consensus with PhilA to close the issue 14:30:24 ack 14:31:08 q+ 14:31:15 q+ 14:32:34 bhyland: there is a housekeeping to do from the last request for FPWD 14:32:40 + +1.703.201.aacc 14:32:47 +1 to not being down in the details... 14:33:09 Zakim, aacc is me 14:33:09 +tinagheen; got it 14:33:33 q- 14:34:07 q? 14:34:09 byland: how actually to change date in doc spec in mercurial 14:34:10 Zakim, aacc is me 14:34:10 sorry, tinagheen, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc' 14:34:13 ack bhyland 14:34:48 Topic: Update and discussion on approved FPWD transition status of GLD products (Bernadette) 14:35:13 sandro: the date are to negociated with the webmaster of W3C 14:35:50 respec config.js 14:36:12 DaveReynolds: in config.js you have the date 14:37:02 http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions-about 14:37:16 I have one small announcement which can be done at the end. 14:38:11 DaveReynolds: could you summarize the discussion about DQ 14:38:53 s/could you/ 14:38:59 @DaveReynolds, thanks for telling me location of .js file to touch. Done :-) 14:39:17 ...how to motivate the issue in the UC document... 14:39:30 @tinagheen, let's discuss CD announcement time permitting on today's call. 14:40:37 @davereynolds, well said. Thanks. 14:41:17 ...we are unclear now about the UC documents distinction (high-level vs technical level) 14:41:25 +??P33 14:41:31 Topic: Use cases vs. Specifications vs. Best Practices docs discussion 14:41:43 -??P33 14:41:55 cgueret has joined #gld 14:42:18 +[LC] 14:42:24 hello 14:42:24 -tinagheen 14:43:11 Zakim, [LC] is me 14:43:11 +tinagheen; got it 14:43:21 bhyland: Some portion of our work are coming from previous work... 14:43:45 ...if we have some experts to check UC docs , it will be appreciated 14:44:41 I *think* I'm hearing that use cases are critical, but they must be relevant and there must be champions/responsible parties 14:44:41 Zakim, who's here? 14:44:41 On the phone I see davidwood, olyerickson, George_Thomas, ZacharyWhitley, gatemezi, martin?, Mike_P, sandro, +91.11.41.29.aabb, Yigal, DaveReynolds, deirdrelee, rreck, tinagheen 14:44:45 On IRC I see cgueret, MacTed, DaveReynolds, rreck, deirdrelee, Biplav, Yigal, Zakim, RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, ZacharyWhitley, martin, tinagheen, George, gatemezi, olyerickson, 14:44:45 ... bhyland, trackbot, sandro 14:45:00 zakim, aabb is biplav 14:45:00 +biplav; got it 14:45:45 zakim, martin? is martin 14:45:45 +martin; got it 14:46:40 DaveReynolds: we should concentrate on the high level UC docs..and use the tracker for more details 14:46:42 q? 14:46:47 I agree DaveReynolds' suggested approach 14:46:51 +1 to DaveReynolds approach 14:47:16 q+ 14:47:17 q+ 14:47:29 Topic: Community Directory 14:47:46 Tina: CD could be distributed to the Organization? 14:48:01 s/Tina/tinagheen 14:48:42 bhyland: we have a tracker on the CD, based on the feedbacl received after the 2F2F.. 14:49:14 ...will push it and could be distributed to any organization... 14:49:22 s/feedbacl/feedback 14:49:25 Topic: AAAI Workshop called "Semantic Cities": http://research.ihost.com/semanticcities12/index.html 14:49:34 ack Biplav 14:49:46 tinagheen: Would like to see Community Directory pushed forward with the various FPWDs. 14:49:51 Topic: Announcements 14:49:53 biplav: organizing a workshop on semanticcities 14:50:00 mhausenblas has joined #gld 14:50:10 ...URL: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-03-15 14:50:16 Biplav: I am organizing a workshop at AAAI-12 called Semantic Cities. I mentioned it in our GLD calls as well. I wanted to send this request to you earlier but somehow missed. 14:50:17 The idea of the workshop is to discuss open data and how semantics can provide a foundation to facilitate high-value analytics.  See: http://research.ihost.com/semanticcities12/index.html 14:50:30 s/http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-03-15/http://research.ihost.com/semanticcities12/index.html 14:51:31 q? 14:51:55 @biplav - suggest you connect with Dan Melton from Code for America who does a lot of city based open government publishing… not necessarily promoting W3C standards per se, but someone I feel we should be liaising with ... 14:52:00 +mhausenblas 14:52:13 ack me 14:52:21 zakim, who's here? 14:52:21 On the phone I see davidwood, olyerickson, George_Thomas, ZacharyWhitley, gatemezi, martin, Mike_P, sandro, biplav, Yigal, DaveReynolds, deirdrelee, rreck, tinagheen, mhausenblas 14:52:24 On IRC I see mhausenblas, cgueret, MacTed, DaveReynolds, rreck, deirdrelee, Biplav, Yigal, Zakim, RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, ZacharyWhitley, martin, tinagheen, George, gatemezi, 14:52:26 ... olyerickson, bhyland, trackbot, sandro 14:52:50 Thanks for the guidance. 14:52:51 DaveReynolds: BP doc revision.... 14:53:06 @biplav thanks for the announcement 14:53:50 The model I'd like to see is this BP doc, see http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-mwabp-20101214 14:53:57 q+ to ask about status of FPWD 14:54:26 bhyland: BP doc wants to make it looks like this http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-mwabp-20101214/ 14:55:01 ..she is re-estructuring the document.. maybe for this sunday it could be ready for internal review 14:55:07 q? 14:56:08 Michael: Looking at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Mar/0058.html and the other Transition Requests - wondering where we are … still not published? 14:56:56 +1 to following MWABP but remember it is about apps, ours isn't 14:57:16 ack me 14:57:16 mhausenblas, you wanted to ask about status of FPWD 14:58:20 bhyland: the status of FPWD--still coming for next week 14:58:44 Topic: Announcements 14:59:38 The Status of the 4 vocab FPWD for transition has been approved by Thomas Roessler with caveats to fix up the publication date & SOTD ... 15:00:40 I'm going to email the editors with request to fix up but we are nearly there! 15:00:43 Zakim, who's here? 15:00:44 On the phone I see davidwood, olyerickson, George_Thomas, ZacharyWhitley, gatemezi, martin, Mike_P, sandro, biplav, Yigal, DaveReynolds, deirdrelee, rreck, tinagheen, mhausenblas 15:00:46 bye 15:00:48 On IRC I see mhausenblas, cgueret, MacTed, DaveReynolds, rreck, deirdrelee, Biplav, Yigal, Zakim, RRSAgent, Mike_Pendleton, ZacharyWhitley, martin, tinagheen, George, gatemezi, 15:00:48 Thanks George for chairing today! 15:00:52 ... olyerickson, bhyland, trackbot, sandro 15:00:52 @george - thank you for chairing. 15:00:58 -deirdrelee 15:01:03 bye, thanks 15:01:03 DaveReynolds has left #gld 15:01:06 -DaveReynolds 15:01:06 martin has left #gld 15:01:06 olyerickson has left #gld 15:01:08 -mhausenblas 15:01:11 -martin 15:01:15 rrsagent, generate minutes 15:01:15 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-gld-minutes.html gatemezi 15:01:16 -tinagheen 15:01:22 Yigal has left #gld 15:01:28 -olyerickson 15:01:34 -Yigal 15:01:36 -rreck 15:01:58 stasinos has joined #gld 15:02:20 Chair: George 15:02:32 -George_Thomas 15:02:33 -Mike_P 15:02:35 -davidwood 15:02:37 -sandro 15:02:52 rrsagent, generate minutes 15:02:52 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-gld-minutes.html gatemezi 15:03:16 -ZacharyWhitley 15:04:06 -biplav 15:05:38 +??P26 15:05:45 @sandro: I will have some problems having attendees ..see : http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-gld-minutes.html (maybe because Zakim was invited too late?) 15:05:51 -gatemezi 15:06:41 stasinos has left #gld 15:07:56 RRSAgent, set logs world-visible 15:08:07 RRSAgent, generate minutes 15:08:07 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-gld-minutes.html gatemezi 15:35:01 disconnecting the lone participant, ??P26, in T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM 15:35:02 T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 15:35:02 Attendees were gatemezi, davidwood, olyerickson, George_Thomas, +1.443.569.aaaa, Mike_P, sandro, tinagheen, DaveReynolds, +91.11.41.29.aabb, Yigal, ZacharyWhitley, deirdrelee, 15:35:02 ... rreck, +1.703.201.aacc, biplav, martin, mhausenblas 17:25:24 Zakim has left #gld 18:14:12 danbri has joined #gld