IRC log of tt on 2012-03-15
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be TTML
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- ok, trackbot, I see Vide_TTML()10:00AM already started
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- Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 15 March 2012
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- Chair: sean
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- Scribe: glenn
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- + +44.154.558.aaaa
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- -??P13
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Mar/0023.html
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- zakim, who's here?
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- On the phone I see ??P13, +44.154.558.aaaa
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Sean, glenn, trackbot
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- zakim, ??p13 is glenn
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- +glenn; got it
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- zakim, aaaa is sean
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- +sean; got it
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- mike has joined #tt
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- on another call today. joining by IRC only.
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- will start in a minute or so
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- test
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- plh, are you joining on voice, or just irc?
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- +Plh
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- oops
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- zakim, drop plh
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- Plh is being disconnected
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- -Plh
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- +Plh
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- w3c-test.org
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- Topic: redirect of errata
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- ACTION-44?
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- ACTION-44 -- Glenn Adams to put in place a new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due 2012-03-01 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
- 14:21:51 [glenn]
- glenn: file content has been put in place in ttml repo
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- plh: will create redirect on w3.org from current loc to new loc in ttml repo
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- glenn: may revise redirect in future if there is a full checkout location for errata
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- Topic: pending review action items
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- ACTION-46?
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- ACTION-46 -- Glenn Adams to remove examples as editorial change -- due 2012-03-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/46
- 14:23:45 [plh]
- Glenn, since you'
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- re done with your part, I'm taking over action 44
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- sean: no issues with 46, 47
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- close ACTION-46
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- ACTION-46 Remove examples as editorial change closed
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- ACTION-47?
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- ACTION-47 -- Glenn Adams to add "(Second Edition)" to draft -- due 2012-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/47
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- close ACTION-47
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- ACTION-47 Add "(Second Edition)" to draft closed
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- ACTION-49?
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- ACTION-49 -- Glenn Adams to add note and editorial text elaborating "transformation semantics" -- due 2012-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/49
- 14:24:52 [glenn]
- glenn: just implemented last night
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- agenda+ Charter update
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- sean: let's leave this in pending review state for another week to give opportunity to review
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- Topic: Charter update
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- plh: have received comments, but still awaiting a few more comments, hoping to have by tomorrow
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- ... one comment is that the Time Tracks CG is not listed as a liaison
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- sean: suggests requesting Dave Singer, who is chairing that CG, to serve as liaison since he is chairing that CG
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- plh: but not a dependency
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- ... expecting further input from Judy Brewer, re a11y input
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- ... no significant objections on charter at this time
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- sean: if necessary to set up call with Judy, then please do so
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- Topic: Open Action Items
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- ACTION-41?
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- ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to aCTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] -- due 2012-04-01 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41
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- sean: wip
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- ACTION-44?
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- ACTION-44 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to put in place a new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
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- plh: will close once redirect is in place
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- ACTION-48?
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- ACTION-48 -- Sean Hayes to elaborate issue-151 points -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/48
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- sean: wip
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- Topic: Open Issues
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- ISSUE-152?
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- ISSUE-152 -- language in 9.3.3 -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152
- 14:34:22 [glenn]
- close ISSUE-152
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- ISSUE-152 language in 9.3.3 closed
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- ISSUE-153?
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- ISSUE-153 -- 'metrics' should be changed to 'units' -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/153
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- close ISSUE-153
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- ISSUE-153 'metrics' should be changed to 'units' closed
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- ISSUE-155?
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- ISSUE-155 -- #metadata-foreign not defined -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/155
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- close ISSUE-155
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- ISSUE-155 #metadata-foreign not defined closed
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- ISSUE-157?
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- ISSUE-157 -- transformation profile -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157
- 14:35:31 [glenn]
- leave open for one more week
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- ISSUE-156?
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- ISSUE-156 -- semantics of missing #feature -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/156
- 14:35:56 [glenn]
- ISSUE-162?
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- ISSUE-162 -- profile discrepancy -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/162
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- sean: need Mike and Andreas on call to resolve, will table for now
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- ISSUE-164?
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- ISSUE-164 -- managing x-role extensions -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/164
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- Topic: New Issues
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- ISSUE-164?
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- ISSUE-164 -- managing x-role extensions -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/164
- 14:37:20 [glenn]
- sean: would be useful to employ a registry for role (for x-...); should review this feature
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- ... suggests an open issue
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- +Present mike (irc only)
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- +Present johnb (irc only)
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- sean: asks plh about whether W3C has registrar for light-weight registries
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- ... e.g., that TTWG could designate for allowing registry of new role tokens
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- glenn: checks spec to determine if this is only use of x-
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- ... verifies that x- is only used with ttm:role attribute values
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- http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#metadata-attribute-role
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- sean/plh: discuss possible use of a wiki
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- http://www.w3.org/wiki/
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- sean: will set up base page in wiki
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- plh: encourages putting url into spec
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- glenn: notes (1) wiki should be general for ttml, and have sub-page for registry
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- ... (2) current spec text 12.2.2 reserves all tokens that do not start with x- for future standardization
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- ... but does so informatively (because it is stated in a note)
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- zakim, who's here?
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- On the phone I see glenn, sean, Plh
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- On IRC I see JohnB, plh, mike, Sean_, RRSAgent, Zakim, glenn, trackbot
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- plh: suggests having link from spec to registry
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- ... also have other solutions than wiki that could be used, e.g., xpointer registry
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- action to sean create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry
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- Sorry, couldn't find user - to
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- zakim, sean is sean_
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- +sean_; got it
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- action to sean create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry
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- Sorry, couldn't find user - to
- 14:50:02 [glenn]
- action sean to create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry
- 14:50:02 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-50 - Create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-03-22].
- 14:50:28 [glenn]
- ISSUE-163?
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- ISSUE-163 -- Clarify use of cell units in certain properties -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/163
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- sean: since a cell need not be rectangular, creates an ambiguity when 'c' unit is used in length specifications
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- ... perhaps someone can create a CP?
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- ... will issue call for CP to fix this issue
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- ACTION-50 create area of wiki to place CPs
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- ACTION-50: create area of wiki to place CPs
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- ACTION-50 Create wiki page for ttml and subpage for role registry notes added
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- Topic: AOB
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- None
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- Topic: Adjournment
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- Adjourned
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- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
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- As of this point the attendees have been +44.154.558.aaaa, glenn, Plh, sean_
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- -Plh
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- -sean_
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/15-tt-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see no action items
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- rrsagent, make logs world-visible
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/15-tt-minutes.html glenn
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- rrsagent, bye
- 15:33:47 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items