IRC log of gld on 2012-03-15

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RRSAgent, make logs world

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Zakim, this will be GLD

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ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

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Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 15 March 2012

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T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started

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+bhyland

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+ +1.202.566.aaaa

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+sandro

13:58:06 [bhyland]

zakim, aaaa is Mike_P

13:58:06 [Zakim]

+Mike_P; got it

13:59:15 [sandro]

sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120315

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+[IPcaller]

14:00:11 [bhyland]

Linked Data Glossary, see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html

14:00:19 [DaveReynolds]

zakim, IPcaller is me

14:00:19 [Zakim]

+DaveReynolds; got it

14:00:27 [Zakim]

+[LC]

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+[IPcaller]

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zakim, IPcaller deirdrelee

14:01:18 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'IPcaller deirdrelee', bhyland

14:01:26 [boris]

zakim, code?

14:01:26 [Zakim]

the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), boris

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zakim, IPcaller is deirdrelee

14:01:30 [Zakim]

+deirdrelee; got it

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+fadmaa

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14:01:38 [bhyland]

zakim, who is on the call?

14:01:38 [Zakim]

On the phone I see bhyland, Mike_P, sandro, DaveReynolds, [LC], deirdrelee, fadmaa

14:02:04 [Zakim]

+??P21

14:02:10 [luis_bermudez]

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+??P24

14:02:22 [olyerickson]

??p21 is me

14:02:27 [martin]

zakim, ??P24 is me

14:02:29 [luis_bermudez]

Hi. I will connect via phone in 10 min

14:02:32 [fadmaa]

zakim, mute me

14:02:36 [Zakim]

+martin; got it

14:02:37 [Zakim]

+ +1.202.691.aabb

14:02:37 [olyerickson]

zqakim, ??p21 is me.

14:02:39 [Zakim]

+??P26

14:02:42 [martin]

zakim, mute me

14:02:44 [Zakim]

fadmaa should now be muted

14:02:47 [olyerickson]

zakim, ?p21 is me.

14:02:49 [boris]

zakim, ??P6 is boris

14:02:57 [Zakim]

martin should now be muted

14:03:01 [Zakim]

sorry, olyerickson, I do not recognize a party named '?p21'

14:03:02 [olyerickson]

zakim, ??p21 is me.

14:03:06 [Zakim]

I already had ??P6 as Plh, boris

14:03:11 [bhyland]

scribe: DaveReynolds

14:03:18 [Zakim]

+olyerickson; got it

14:03:22 [DaveReynolds]

scribenick: DaveReynolds

14:03:29 [bhyland]

Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120315

14:03:45 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

14:03:47 [PhilA2]

zakim, IPcaller is me

14:03:50 [bhyland]

zakim, who is on the call?

14:03:52 [Zakim]

+PhilA2; got it

14:03:53 [Zakim]

On the phone I see bhyland, Mike_P, sandro, DaveReynolds, [LC], deirdrelee, fadmaa (muted), olyerickson, martin (muted), +1.202.691.aabb, ??P26, PhilA2

14:04:10 [bhyland]

zakim, aabb is DanG

14:04:10 [Zakim]

+DanG; got it

14:04:30 [bhyland]

zakim, P26 is boris

14:04:30 [Zakim]

sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'P26'

14:04:32 [boris]

zakim, ??P6 IS BORIS

14:04:32 [Zakim]

I already had ??P6 as Plh, boris

14:04:38 [boris]

zakim, ??P6 is boris

14:04:38 [Zakim]

I already had ??P6 as Plh, boris

14:04:48 [Zakim]

+George_Thomas

14:05:01 [PhilA2]

zakim, ??P26 is Boris

14:05:01 [Zakim]

+Boris; got it

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+ +91.80.49.06.aacc

14:06:04 [bhyland]

Propose to accept minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-03-08

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+1

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+gatemezi

14:06:39 [olyerickson]

+1 accept minutes

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-gatemezi

14:06:53 [gatemezi]

+1 accept minutes

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+1

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+1

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+gatemezi

14:08:08 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: requested people, dcat, org, data cube to first pass WD

14:08:18 [PhilA2]

Terrific news! Well done to the folk who've worked hard on those

14:08:27 [Zakim]

-gatemezi

14:08:44 [gatemezi]

Zakim, who is here?

14:08:44 [Zakim]

On the phone I see bhyland, Mike_P, sandro, DaveReynolds, [LC], deirdrelee, fadmaa (muted), olyerickson, martin (muted), DanG, Boris, PhilA2, George_Thomas, +91.80.49.06.aacc

14:08:47 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Biplav, tinagheen, gatemezi, luis_bermudez, fadmaa, Mike_Pendleton, boris, PhilA2, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, DanG, martin, DaveReynolds, MacTed, bhyland,

14:08:47 [Zakim]

... olyerickson, trackbot, sandro

14:09:10 [Zakim]

+gatemezi

14:09:37 [olyerickson]

zakim, who is on the phone.

14:09:37 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'who is on the phone', olyerickson

14:09:56 [PhilA2]

Let me start with http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/03/interoperable_governments.html

14:10:01 [DaveReynolds]

topic: PhilA update on ADMS and ISA vocabs

14:10:03 [bhyland]

Topic: Update on the ADMS spec and ISA eGov core vocabs

14:10:11 [tinagheen]

Zakim, [LC] is me

14:10:11 [Zakim]

+tinagheen; got it

14:10:48 [bhyland]

chair: GeorgeThomas

14:11:22 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: ISA producing three core vocabs.

14:11:27 [Zakim]

+lbermudez

14:11:37 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: People - soley a natural person (not businesses-as-people etc)

14:11:53 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: business - to describe legal entities, subsets of organizations

14:12:10 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: location - address information, intended to be INSPIRE compliant

14:13:03 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: ISA person can be used as a subset of W3C people vocab

14:13:26 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: ISA business not directly connected to org (though compatible?)

14:13:59 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: Fourth vocab. ADMS. Asset Descriptions Metadata Schema.

14:15:10 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: It is relevant for GLD. Government institutions are publishing assets like code lists, standards, vocabs. ADMS is for describing those (c.f. DCAT for describing datasets themselves).

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14:15:27 [George]

zakim, who is here?

14:15:27 [Zakim]

On the phone I see bhyland, Mike_P, sandro, DaveReynolds, tinagheen, deirdrelee, fadmaa (muted), olyerickson, martin (muted), DanG, Boris, PhilA2, George_Thomas, +91.80.49.06.aacc,

14:15:27 [PhilA2]

http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/

14:15:30 [Zakim]

... gatemezi, lbermudez

14:15:30 [Zakim]

On IRC I see George, Biplav, tinagheen, gatemezi, luis_bermudez, fadmaa, Mike_Pendleton, boris, PhilA2, deirdrelee, Zakim, RRSAgent, DanG, martin, DaveReynolds, MacTed, bhyland,

14:15:31 [Zakim]

... olyerickson, trackbot, sandro

14:15:33 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: ADMS being implemented by joinup platform

14:15:47 [PhilA2]

http://digitaliser.dk/

14:15:49 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: ADMS also being used by Danish portal

14:15:52 [George]

q?

14:16:20 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: W3C will also use AMDS for TR descriptions

14:18:03 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: Now suggesting that GLD take on all four of the vocabularies.

14:18:45 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: All of them match existing GLD charter.

14:20:22 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: Are being asked to take result of EU review process as FPWD-ready material. But are, of course, free to then extend and improve before final publication.

14:20:54 [George]

q?

14:21:05 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: All four are intended to ready end of March for targetted FPWD publication in May.

14:21:10 [bhyland]

q+

14:22:13 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: There is a 5th vocab, for description of open source software. Not being brought to GLD at this time (outside of charter)

14:23:04 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: It is called RADion - Repository Assets Description

14:23:15 [George]

ack bhyland

14:23:18 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2 - very high level, DCAT could be seen as specialization of it (?)

14:24:39 [PhilA2]

-> RADion details http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Mar/0048.html

14:25:16 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: a lot of the heavy lifting has been done on these vocabs, it is a funded effort, they are well documented. Encourages GLD folks to look them and voice opinions on them.

14:25:37 [olyerickson]

I haven't see region-specific in things I've looked at

14:25:52 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: especially - they should be checked for any region-specific aspects

14:26:14 [olyerickson]

We've found core business vocab interesting, and will be looking at location at people as well

14:26:20 [George]

q?

14:26:58 [olyerickson]

ADMS is harder to figure out application scope. I get DCAT (obviously), I don't quite get use cases for ADMS

14:27:41 [olyerickson]

Could PhilA elaborate on ADMS use case (or two)

14:27:53 [DaveReynolds]

sandro: asks about timeline guidance for reviewing the vocabs

14:28:06 [bhyland]

Note: ADMC Working Group list, see https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/document/adms-working-group

14:28:12 [bhyland]

s/ADMC/ADMS

14:28:32 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: targeting completion 1 week on Friday

14:29:16 [PhilA2]

-> ADMS http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/home

14:29:24 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: Aiming that ADMS 1.0 becomes FPWD as is because it is already being implemented. So early identification of major issues would be important.

14:30:31 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: Feels that FPWD should separate core model from implementation guidance, which are merged in ADMS 0.9/1.0

14:30:46 [Zakim]

-deirdrelee

14:30:51 [Zakim]

+ +1.443.569.aadd

14:30:51 [bhyland]

@PhilA, should we be looking at section 5.2 ADMS Core Elements in https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/asset/adms/wiki/adms-specification-v06

14:30:55 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: Some issues around text v. strings and flagging of machine translation

14:31:07 [DanG]

This problem was solved in ISO/IEC 19773

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14:31:52 [fadmaa]

I am happy to write a comment to the ADMS

14:31:53 [DanG]

Sorry 19773 is called Metadata Modules

14:31:55 [bhyland]

q+

14:32:11 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: In particular some of the implementation guide is Europe specific

14:32:13 [George]

ack bhyland

14:32:37 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

14:33:14 [PhilA2]

http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/blog/adms-version-09-now-available-joinup-consultation

14:33:38 [PhilA2]

ADMS Namespace doc http://philarcher.org/adms/ADMS_v0.10.rdf

14:35:27 [PhilA2]

Joinup http://joinup.ec.europa.eu/

14:36:25 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: [Clarifying ADMS use cases ...] Joinup is an example use. It provides "semantic assets" - includes vocabularies, code lists, standards. Provides discovery portal for public sector employees to find such assets.

14:37:16 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: ADMS a vocab for describing these assets. Such an asset is different from a dataset.

14:37:47 [PhilA2]

RADion UML http://philarcher.org/adms/RADion%20v0.05.png

14:38:03 [George]

q?

14:38:21 [DaveReynolds]

q+, to ask about registry v. repository

14:38:53 [DaveReynolds]

q+ to ask about registry v. repository

14:38:55 [olyerickson]

PhilA this actually is helpful...thanks...

14:39:17 [olyerickson]

Yes

14:39:23 [George]

ack

14:39:28 [George]

ack DaveReynolds

14:39:28 [Zakim]

DaveReynolds, you wanted to ask about registry v. repository

14:39:59 [olyerickson]

PhilA described some very futurey concepts IMHO...

14:40:04 [DanG]

why is geography separated from SKOS concept scheme and concepts?

14:40:54 [Zakim]

-sandro

14:41:15 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: is intended to have a registry aspect, has some notion of status.

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14:42:37 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: but doesn't have a notion of endorsement by a particular community

14:43:15 [George]

q?

14:44:01 [DaveReynolds]

DanG: asks why geographic coverage is separated from SKOS concept schemes. Typically geo areas are concept schemes and should be handled uniformly.

14:45:06 [olyerickson]

I need DanG to give an example

14:45:12 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: previously had a notion of "domain". Could generalize to allow SKOS concepts to be used there.

14:45:18 [gatemezi]

In Geonames, codes are skos:Concept

14:46:46 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: question to group, is it OK to publish as FPWD before sorting issues such as uniform use of concept schemes.

14:47:13 [gatemezi]

link Geonames: http://www.geonames.org/ontology/documentation.html

14:47:25 [DaveReynolds]

DanG: preference, if group agrees then make changes first before FPWD publication.

14:47:57 [George]

q?

14:48:13 [olyerickson]

request that DanG elaborate on these issues in "ISSUES"

14:49:38 [DaveReynolds]

DanG: points out ISO 19773 has a approach to data types for multi-text, multi-string, multi-data. Type includes both datum and additional information (e.g. language, cultural identifiers).

14:49:49 [DaveReynolds]

s/has a/has an/

14:50:53 [olyerickson]

Thanks!

14:51:05 [DaveReynolds]

george: suggests capturing these on issues list

14:52:48 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: [Clarifying relationship of OSS vocab to DOAP] Interest is from UK and Spanish gov. If GLD feels it is relevant it *could* could to encompass that as well. In RADion there is a link to project which is doap:Project.

14:53:37 [Zakim]

- +91.80.49.06.aacc

14:54:01 [bhyland]

q+

14:54:01 [George]

q?

14:54:07 [George]

ack bhyland

14:54:10 [olyerickson]

;)

14:54:11 [George]

ack bhyland

14:54:58 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: reluctant to to cover OSS area as well, seems beyond GLD charter.

14:55:02 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: agreed

14:55:56 [olyerickson]

"GLD recommends stakeholder consider any and all vocabularies of potential interest, now and in the future..."

14:56:43 [olyerickson]

Thanks PhilA!

14:56:44 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: appreciates GLD taking on the vocabs that it is adopting

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14:57:54 [DaveReynolds]

topic: DCAT

14:58:06 [fadmaa]

Zakim, unmute me

14:58:06 [Zakim]

fadmaa should no longer be muted

14:59:02 [bhyland]

Action-37

14:59:22 [bhyland]

We're all looking at: https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2

14:59:27 [bhyland]

(or should be ..)

14:59:47 [DaveReynolds]

fadmaa: issues 2,3 are easy and should be able to get consensus. Issue 9 is much the same as 7 and 8.

15:00:32 [DaveReynolds]

olyerickson: issue 2,3 trivial things left to close off.

15:02:44 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: some issues are raised but not necessarily accept as issues to be addressed (i.e. OPEN)

15:02:46 [George]

q?

15:02:53 [DaveReynolds]

s/accept/accepted/

15:03:38 [DaveReynolds]

olyerickson: issue 2 resulted in dct:language being added (so solved?)

15:04:15 [bhyland]

@George, perhaps you should move some of these to OPEN status and some to CLOSED if they've been addressed, with comment …

15:04:55 [DaveReynolds]

george: trying to get clarify on what the actual issue is so can be clear on what are solved, what are unclear, what area ctionable.

15:05:02 [DaveReynolds]

s/area /are a/

15:05:47 [DaveReynolds]

olyerickson: issue 2 - added dct:language at both levels

15:06:24 [DaveReynolds]

olyerickson: issue 3 - about time/date format, list agreed to prefer xsd:dateTime, but stakeholders wanted other forms, discussion still open

15:07:06 [DaveReynolds]

action: olyerickson to annotate and update issues 2, 3 on tracker

15:07:07 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-58 - Annotate and update issues 2, 3 on tracker [on John Erickson - due 2012-03-22].

15:07:37 [PhilA2]

I'll make a proposal by mail to put ISSUE-3 to bed - I don't think it's a big issue and we know how to handle it

15:08:31 [DaveReynolds]

fadmaa: question is whether dct:Distribution needed (ans: yes), are subsclasses needed (may not be fully representative)

15:09:09 [DaveReynolds]

fadmaa: want to differentiate between direct download links and web pages which eventually lead to download

15:09:51 [fadmaa]

https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/8

15:10:12 [Zakim]

-DaveReynolds

15:10:15 [PhilA2]

George: Is that clearer, John?

15:10:21 [PhilA2]

olyerickson: Yes, that helps

15:10:57 [PhilA2]

George: So it looks like we can open actions 7, 8 and 9 and then come to a resolution?

15:11:29 [PhilA2]

olyerickson: I think we need to create actions on those of us owning DCAT and come up with a specific alternative if that can be done

15:11:40 [PhilA2]

... it's a raesonable issue that Martin is raising

15:11:52 [PhilA2]

... we need to put something concrete before the GLD WG

15:12:04 [gatemezi]

+ 1 to Fadi point

15:12:08 [PhilA2]

fadmaa: So we should put specific proposals on the ML?

15:12:13 [martin]

+1

15:12:19 [PhilA2]

George: That sounds good - it can go on next weeks agenda

15:12:24 [bhyland]

+1

15:12:26 [PhilA2]

scribe: PhilA2

15:12:36 [boris]

+1 to mark issues as open

15:12:59 [PhilA2]

action: Fadi Maali to address issues 7 - 9 on the mailing list

15:12:59 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-59 - Maali to address issues 7 - 9 on the mailing list [on Fadi Maali - due 2012-03-22].

15:13:48 [PhilA2]

topic: People

15:13:54 [fadmaa]

Zakim, mute me

15:13:54 [Zakim]

fadmaa should now be muted

15:15:10 [George]

PhilA2: patronymic name

15:15:31 [George]

... include Titles, Prefixes, etc.?

15:15:55 [George]

... no rules - but pushed for patronymic names

15:16:09 [George]

... and 'alternative' name (which isn't foaf:nick)

15:16:24 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller.a]

15:16:32 [DaveReynolds]

zakim, IPcaller.a is me

15:16:32 [Zakim]

+DaveReynolds; got it

15:16:44 [olyerickson]

+1 to formal alternativeName... alternative right now is skos:prefLabel, skos:altLabel

15:17:05 [PhilA2]

George: Let's look at Best Prac for vocabulary selection

15:17:16 [PhilA2]

... I noticed some mention of accidental subsumption

15:17:34 [PhilA2]

... does anyone else think this is a useful addition to the doc?

15:18:14 [PhilA2]

George: If my hospital subject were to use a vCard address, it would be subsumed as a type vCard object

15:18:30 [PhilA2]

... this presrnts itself as a problem to possible users

15:18:42 [PhilA2]

George: LD COmmunity is not very oriented towards this effect

15:18:54 [boris]

q+

15:19:15 [DaveReynolds]

scribe: DaveReynolds

15:19:40 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: frequently find want to reuse a property but domain/range constraints on it cause unintended consequences

15:20:33 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: some LD users work round that by separating inferences from direct assertions, pragmatics

15:20:34 [George]

ack boris

15:20:55 [olyerickson]

Linked Data is not about creating a perfect organization of knowledge

15:21:05 [DaveReynolds]

boris: worth mentioning in Best Practice vocab section

15:22:16 [bhyland]

Sounds like we need a good glossary :-)

15:22:20 [DaveReynolds]

george: also some need for more clarity of description on "products" in the procurement section, e.g. Linked Data Server

15:22:21 [boris]

yes

15:22:24 [bhyland]

nice segway

15:22:32 [Mike_Pendleton]

agreed George

15:22:50 [bhyland]

Topic: LD Glossary see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html

15:23:39 [PhilA2]

q+ to talk about a linked data server

15:23:43 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: would like Best Practices etc to link to glossary. New entries, improved descriptions welcome.

15:24:10 [George]

ack PhilA2

15:24:16 [George]

ack PhilA2

15:24:50 [olyerickson]

PhilA mentions LD Patterns WG

15:24:52 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: asks if group is aware of Linked Data platform, now "patterns", working group

15:25:08 [George]

q?

15:25:13 [George]

ack PhilA

15:25:13 [Zakim]

PhilA, you wanted to talk about a linked data server

15:25:29 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: relevant to glossary definition of e.g. Linked Data Server

15:26:25 [boris]

http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120315

15:26:30 [PhilA2]

-> Using Open data http://www.w3.org/2012/06/pmod/

15:27:23 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: workshop in June in Brussels - about *using* open data

15:27:54 [DaveReynolds]

PhilA2: special focus on policy modelling

15:27:57 [bhyland]

q+

15:28:21 [George]

ack bhyland

15:29:34 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: asks US members to check travel possibilities (for TPAC?)

15:30:20 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: to check of a GLD f2f is possible during TPAC

15:30:41 [gatemezi]

thanks!

15:30:56 [Zakim]

-Mike_P

15:31:01 [PhilA2]

regrets for next week

15:31:09 [Zakim]

-olyerickson

15:31:13 [DaveReynolds]

RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

15:31:14 [Zakim]

-tinagheen

15:31:14 [Zakim]

-bhyland

15:31:15 [Zakim]

-fadmaa

15:31:15 [Zakim]

-PhilA2

15:31:16 [Zakim]

-DanG

15:31:19 [Zakim]

- +1.443.569.aadd

15:31:21 [Zakim]

-martin

15:31:21 [DaveReynolds]

RRSAgent, generate minutes

15:31:21 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/15-gld-minutes.html DaveReynolds

15:31:22 [Zakim]

-[IPcaller]

15:31:27 [Zakim]

-Boris

15:31:29 [bhyland]

Thanks DaveReynolds for scribing. Do you need any help publishing minutes or are you fine?

15:31:30 [Zakim]

-lbermudez

15:31:31 [Zakim]

-gatemezi

15:31:32 [PhilA2]

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15:31:39 [Zakim]

-George_Thomas

15:31:53 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: not sure, working on it now, process has changed from last time I did this

15:31:58 [bhyland]

@DaveReynolds, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120315#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist

15:32:21 [bhyland]

if you have any issues, let me know & I'll help ...

15:32:52 [DaveReynolds]

Previously scribe did clean up of minues, do we not do that now?

15:33:14 [bhyland]

yes, you can do that

15:33:31 [George]

but we often go straight out without

15:33:36 [George]

your call

15:33:55 [DaveReynolds]

OK, thanks. I'll check through to if anything needs clean up otherwise just publish raw.

15:33:57 [bhyland]

I look over the minutes before publishing

15:34:02 [bhyland]

ta

15:36:40 [Zakim]

disconnecting the lone participant, DaveReynolds, in T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM

15:36:42 [Zakim]

T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended

15:36:42 [Zakim]

Attendees were bhyland, +1.202.566.aaaa, sandro, Mike_P, DaveReynolds, deirdrelee, fadmaa, martin, +1.202.691.aabb, olyerickson, PhilA2, DanG, George_Thomas, Boris,

15:36:42 [Zakim]

... +91.80.49.06.aacc, gatemezi, tinagheen, lbermudez, +1.443.569.aadd, [IPcaller]

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15:43:56 [DaveReynolds]

bhyland: sandro: I have chatlog copy on http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Chatlog_2012-03-15 but wiki is not letting me login to edit them. No error message. I can log in and change rest of wiki fine.

15:45:00 [sandro]

DaveReynolds, weird....! try shift-refresh? wiki caching is sometimes broken....

15:45:51 [DaveReynolds]

sandro: ah, thanks, should have tried that!

15:46:15 [sandro]

Most of the web works well enough these days, but now w3.org + wikis. :-(

15:46:27 [sandro]

(.... well enough that we forget about caching)

15:46:34 [sandro]

s/now/not/

15:46:53 [DaveReynolds]

yes

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