IRC log of html-wg on 2012-03-08
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/03/08-html-wg-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be html_wg
- 17:01:17 [Zakim]
- ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
- 17:01:17 [Julian]
- Zakim, +9251280aaaa is me
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- Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
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- Date: 08 March 2012
- 17:01:18 [Zakim]
- +Julian; got it
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- Zakim, mute me
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- Julian should now be muted
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- 17:01:26 [paulc]
- zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
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- +paulc; got it
- 17:01:27 [glenn]
- chair: paulc
- 17:01:33 [paulc]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0022.html
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- 17:01:36 [glenn]
- scribe: glenn
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- +[Microsoft.a]
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- -[Microsoft.a]
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- +[Microsoft.a]
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- -[Microsoft.a]
- 17:01:45 [glenn]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0022.html
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- Topic: Action Items Due by March 8
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- +[Microsoft.a]
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- +[Microsoft.aa]
- 17:02:18 [adrianba]
- zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
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- +adrianba; got it
- 17:02:22 [glenn]
- zakim, aabb is me
- 17:02:22 [Zakim]
- +glenn; got it
- 17:02:22 [[tm]]
- Zakim: call Mike
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- +[Microsoft.a]
- 17:02:29 [eliot]
- zakim, microsoft.a is me
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- +eliot; got it
- 17:02:40 [krisk]
- zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is krisk
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- +krisk; got it
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- 17:03:36 [paulc]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 17:03:36 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Julian (muted), glenn, [Microsoft], hober, joesteele, +1.415.595.aacc, Joseph_Scheuhammer, adrianba, krisk, eliot
- 17:03:38 [Zakim]
- [Microsoft] has paulc
- 17:03:50 [[tm]]
- Zakim, call Mike
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- ok, [tm]; the call is being made
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- +Mike
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- +Mark_Watson
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- 17:05:05 [glenn]
- ACTION-209?
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- ACTION-209 -- Paul Cotton to set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week -- due 2012-03-08 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/209
- 17:05:16 [paulc]
- See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0275.html
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- +Radhika_Roy
- 17:05:24 [glenn]
- paulc: posted outline for a Media TF
- 17:05:33 [mark]
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- 17:05:39 [glenn]
- ... used same template for accessibility TF
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- ... should close action item
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- close ACTION-209
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- ACTION-209 Set up an encrypted media propsal task force, due next week closed
- 17:06:10 [glenn]
- ???: feedback on issue?
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- paulc: will discuss feedback by next week
- 17:06:49 [glenn]
- ... moving this forward to set up TF, didn't set up deadline, will do a CfC with deadline on TF creation
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- ... early feedback appreciated
- 17:07:10 [[tm]]
- paulc: date for WD pubs is March 15
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- Topic: New Issues This Week
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- s/???/Mark Watson/
- 17:07:33 [glenn]
- There is 1 tracker request
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- http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
- 17:07:56 [glenn]
- paulc: holding off action... may have by next week
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- s/paulc: date/paulc, date/
- 17:08:06 [glenn]
- Topic: Items Closed Last Week
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- ISSUE-189?
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- ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
- 17:08:22 [glenn]
- paulc: two proposals, will move to next stage
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- Topic: Items Closing This Week
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- ISSUE-170?
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- ISSUE-170 -- make URIs valid link relations -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/170
- 17:09:15 [glenn]
- paulc: looking up status
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- ISSUE-192?
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- ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
- 17:10:00 [glenn]
- paulc: CfC closed yesterday
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- ISSUE-204?
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- ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
- 17:10:17 [glenn]
- CfC closes on Saturday, blocks ISSUE-30
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- Topic: Items Closing Next Week
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- ISSUE-80?
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- ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
- 17:10:39 [glenn]
- ISSUE-131?
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- ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
- 17:10:40 [dsinger]
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- 17:10:52 [glenn]
- ISSUE-158?
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- ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158
- 17:10:53 [Zakim]
- +[Apple]
- 17:11:01 [dsinger]
- zakim, [apple] has dsinger
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- +dsinger; got it
- 17:11:03 [glenn]
- ISSUE-205?
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- ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
- 17:11:16 [glenn]
- paulc: all in call for counter proposals
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- ... comments?
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- Topic: New Calls
- 17:11:48 [glenn]
- paulc: CfC on May F2F, closes tomorrow March 10
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- ISSUE-187? CfC
- 17:12:07 [glenn]
- ISSUE-187?
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- ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
- 17:12:15 [glenn]
- ISSUE-198?
- 17:12:15 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- closed
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
- 17:12:39 [glenn]
- paulc: have issued call for counter proposals, still discussing where work should be done... HTML vs WebApps
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- ... have called for counter propossal, while discussing place for work continues
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- ... comments?
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- Topic: New Surveys
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- none
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- Topic: Decisions this Week
- 17:13:23 [glenn]
- ISSUE-183?
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- ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
- 17:13:39 [glenn]
- issued CfC, received no object;
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- s/object/objections/
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- Topic: TF Reports
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- -Mike
- 17:14:32 [glenn]
- paulc: accessibility TF has not met, any input?
- 17:14:55 [glenn]
- ... didn't meet for last 2 weeks due to SbSW meeting
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- testing TF
- 17:15:24 [krisk]
- Notes from Testing TF Meeting -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Mar/0003.html
- 17:15:44 [glenn]
- krisk: if folks making changes to ???, please make in correct location
- 17:15:53 [krisk]
- Changes to testharness.js need to be done at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/resources/
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- s/???/testharness.js/
- 17:16:14 [glenn]
- krisk: working on canvas and bidi tests
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- Topic: AOB
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- a) CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
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- Chairs' decision:
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0221.html
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- target pub date is March 15, [tm] is handling this...
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- Will work with Mike
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- paulc: any editors on call should work with Mike ([tm])
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- ... to meet hearbeat requirements
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- b) CfC: Close ISSUE-182 footnote-recommendation by Amicable Resolution http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0250.html
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- Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
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- c) CfC: Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0251.html
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- Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
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- ISSUE-182?
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- ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
- 17:18:05 [glenn]
- ISSUE-188?
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- ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188
- 17:18:33 [glenn]
- paulc: ... don't want to add to work queue yet, but expect decision shortly
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- d) Revert request
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0199.html
- 17:18:54 [glenn]
- Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
- 17:18:55 [glenn]
- e) Revert Request for "http+aes" scheme (see also ISSUE-179) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0235.html
- 17:18:57 [glenn]
- Note: Awaiting Chairs' decision.
- 17:19:22 [glenn]
- paulc: chairs have not yet processed, but are discussing; response expected soon
- 17:19:50 [glenn]
- paulc: New AOB
- 17:19:54 [paulc]
- CfC: Close ISSUE-179 av_param by Amicable Resolution
- 17:20:10 [paulc]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0277.html
- 17:20:38 [glenn]
- paulc: will be able to move amicable resolution on remaining zero change proposal, march 15 deadlie
- 17:20:42 [Zakim]
- +??P7
- 17:20:44 [glenn]
- s/deadlie/deadline/
- 17:20:58 [glenn]
- paulc: one other question on list:
- 17:21:11 [glenn]
- ISSUE-164?
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- ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
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- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
- 17:21:27 [glenn]
- paulc: chairs are reviewing CPs
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- +??P19
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- -??P7
- 17:21:52 [glenn]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0237.html
- 17:22:10 [glenn]
- Topic: Adjournment
- 17:22:22 [glenn]
- s/Adjournment/Next Meeting/
- 17:22:23 [adrianba]
- i can scribe
- 17:22:30 [glenn]
- paulc: sam to chair, adrian to scribe
- 17:22:45 [glenn]
- Topic: Adjournment
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- adjourned
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- -[Apple]
- 17:23:00 [glenn]
- trackbot, end meeting
- 17:23:00 [trackbot]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 17:23:00 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been +1.417.671.aabb, hober, joesteele, +1.415.595.aacc, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Julian, paulc, [Microsoft], adrianba, glenn, eliot, krisk, Mike,
- 17:23:03 [Zakim]
- ... Mark_Watson, Radhika_Roy, dsinger
- 17:23:08 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 17:23:08 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/03/08-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
- 17:23:09 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items
- 17:23:10 [Zakim]
- -??P19