IRC log of webperf on 2012-02-29

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Zakim, this will be WPWG
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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 29 February 2012
18:00:05 [plh]
zakim, this is per
18:00:05 [Zakim]
ok, plh; that matches RWC_web-per()1:00PM
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trackbot, start telecon
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Zakim, this will be WPWG
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Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 29 February 2012
18:01:04 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
18:01:12 [Zakim]
+pchampin
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+Plh
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+[Microsoft]
18:02:33 [plh]
zakim, Mozilla is really Luke
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+Luke; got it
18:02:40 [JatinderMann]
present+ Luke
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present+ plh
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present+ simonjam
18:02:52 [Zakim]
+ +1.510.333.aaaa
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present+ alois
18:03:15 [dmandelin]
I just dialed in too
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+ +43.732.908.2aabb
18:03:30 [JatinderMann]
present+ dmandelin
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scribe: jatinder
18:03:33 [Alois]
Dialed in
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present+ karen
18:06:50 [Zakim]
+ +1.404.978.aacc
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present+ tonyg
18:07:10 [JatinderMann]
Topic: High Resolution Time
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+Tony
18:09:39 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: Was there any feedback to the spec?
18:10:50 [dmandelin]
the users i talked to didn't seem to need to know the resolution, they just wanted to get the best resolution the system could provide
18:11:09 [JatinderMann]
Tony: There was some feedback on the definition of the start of navigation. We should use navigationStart.
18:13:32 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: I agree that we should tie the definition in with navigationStart.
18:13:47 [JatinderMann]
James: Regarding the minimum resolution, I think we should just leave it as a best effort.
18:17:24 [plh]
I'm ok with best effort
18:17:28 [JatinderMann]
Tony: I like it how it is.
18:19:25 [JatinderMann]
Tony: Boris had raised concerns on requestAnimationFrame?
18:21:18 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: I had responded on the thread. Seeing that developers were aware that they were using prefixed code that could still change behavior and requestAnimationFrame spec has only now just gone into Last Call, I don't think it's too late to make such changes.
18:22:33 [JatinderMann]
Tony: What about performance.timing attributes?
18:23:19 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: They will remain as is. When using getEntries() you will get the new time.
18:23:37 [JatinderMann]
Topic: Resource Timing
18:23:39 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: http://www.w3.org/2012/02/resource-timing-lc-issues.html
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2011Aug/0021.html
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plh: Jatinder why don't you review the lists and get back to the mailing list if there are any issues.
18:28:51 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: Definitely.
18:32:27 [JatinderMann]
Karen: What about mailing list discussions on iframe security?
18:33:34 [JatinderMann]
Tony: We had closed that by saying we were going to use navigationStart.
18:35:21 [JatinderMann]
Jatinder: I wrote a section on statistical fingerprinting. Seeing that cache hits and misses can be determined without sub-millisecond resolution.
18:35:26 [Zakim]
-Luke
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-pchampin
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- +1.404.978.aacc
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- +43.732.908.2aabb
18:35:40 [JatinderMann]
James: We should continue the discussion with our security folks and close on this.
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- +1.510.333.aaaa
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-Tony
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-[Microsoft]
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-Plh
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Attendees were pchampin, Plh, [Microsoft], Luke, +1.510.333.aaaa, +43.732.908.2aabb, +1.404.978.aacc, Tony
18:54:55 [plh]
zakim, bye
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-webperf-minutes.html plh
19:23:38 [JatinderMann]
close action-88
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ACTION-88 Respond to Anne's comment on privacy section for Page Visibility closed
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closs action-69
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close action-69
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ACTION-69 Create High Resolution Time specification closed
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close action-6
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ACTION-6 Investigate https://w3c-test.org/ closed
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close action-63
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ACTION-63 Inherited objects should return sub-millisecond resolution closed
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close action-71
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ACTION-71 Propose use cases for an Instrumentation/Timing API to be used for tooling purposes closed
19:27:28 [JatinderMann]
rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-webperf-minutes.html JatinderMann