IRC log of webperf on 2012-02-29
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-webperf-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be WPWG
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 29 February 2012
- 18:00:05 [plh]
- zakim, this is per
- 18:00:05 [Zakim]
- ok, plh; that matches RWC_web-per()1:00PM
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- trackbot, start telecon
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be WPWG
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- Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 29 February 2012
- 18:01:04 [Zakim]
- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
- 18:01:12 [Zakim]
- +pchampin
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- +Plh
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- +[Microsoft]
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- zakim, Mozilla is really Luke
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- +Luke; got it
- 18:02:40 [JatinderMann]
- present+ Luke
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- present+ plh
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- present+ simonjam
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- + +1.510.333.aaaa
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- present+ alois
- 18:03:15 [dmandelin]
- I just dialed in too
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- + +43.732.908.2aabb
- 18:03:30 [JatinderMann]
- present+ dmandelin
- 18:03:33 [JatinderMann]
- scribe: jatinder
- 18:03:33 [Alois]
- Dialed in
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- present+ karen
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- + +1.404.978.aacc
- 18:07:06 [JatinderMann]
- present+ tonyg
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- Topic: High Resolution Time
- 18:09:09 [Zakim]
- +Tony
- 18:09:39 [JatinderMann]
- Jatinder: Was there any feedback to the spec?
- 18:10:50 [dmandelin]
- the users i talked to didn't seem to need to know the resolution, they just wanted to get the best resolution the system could provide
- 18:11:09 [JatinderMann]
- Tony: There was some feedback on the definition of the start of navigation. We should use navigationStart.
- 18:13:32 [JatinderMann]
- Jatinder: I agree that we should tie the definition in with navigationStart.
- 18:13:47 [JatinderMann]
- James: Regarding the minimum resolution, I think we should just leave it as a best effort.
- 18:17:24 [plh]
- I'm ok with best effort
- 18:17:28 [JatinderMann]
- Tony: I like it how it is.
- 18:19:25 [JatinderMann]
- Tony: Boris had raised concerns on requestAnimationFrame?
- 18:21:18 [JatinderMann]
- Jatinder: I had responded on the thread. Seeing that developers were aware that they were using prefixed code that could still change behavior and requestAnimationFrame spec has only now just gone into Last Call, I don't think it's too late to make such changes.
- 18:22:33 [JatinderMann]
- Tony: What about performance.timing attributes?
- 18:23:19 [JatinderMann]
- Jatinder: They will remain as is. When using getEntries() you will get the new time.
- 18:23:37 [JatinderMann]
- Topic: Resource Timing
- 18:23:39 [JatinderMann]
- Jatinder: http://www.w3.org/2012/02/resource-timing-lc-issues.html
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2011Aug/0021.html
- 18:28:20 [JatinderMann]
- plh: Jatinder why don't you review the lists and get back to the mailing list if there are any issues.
- 18:28:51 [JatinderMann]
- Jatinder: Definitely.
- 18:32:27 [JatinderMann]
- Karen: What about mailing list discussions on iframe security?
- 18:33:34 [JatinderMann]
- Tony: We had closed that by saying we were going to use navigationStart.
- 18:35:21 [JatinderMann]
- Jatinder: I wrote a section on statistical fingerprinting. Seeing that cache hits and misses can be determined without sub-millisecond resolution.
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- -Luke
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- -pchampin
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- - +1.404.978.aacc
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- - +43.732.908.2aabb
- 18:35:40 [JatinderMann]
- James: We should continue the discussion with our security folks and close on this.
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- -Tony
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- -[Microsoft]
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- -Plh
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- RWC_web-per()1:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were pchampin, Plh, [Microsoft], Luke, +1.510.333.aaaa, +43.732.908.2aabb, +1.404.978.aacc, Tony
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- zakim, bye
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-webperf-minutes.html plh
- 19:23:38 [JatinderMann]
- close action-88
- 19:23:38 [trackbot]
- ACTION-88 Respond to Anne's comment on privacy section for Page Visibility closed
- 19:23:50 [JatinderMann]
- closs action-69
- 19:23:58 [JatinderMann]
- close action-69
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- ACTION-69 Create High Resolution Time specification closed
- 19:24:06 [JatinderMann]
- close action-6
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- ACTION-6 Investigate https://w3c-test.org/ closed
- 19:24:10 [JatinderMann]
- close action-63
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- ACTION-63 Inherited objects should return sub-millisecond resolution closed
- 19:24:43 [JatinderMann]
- close action-71
- 19:24:43 [trackbot]
- ACTION-71 Propose use cases for an Instrumentation/Timing API to be used for tooling purposes closed
- 19:27:28 [JatinderMann]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/29-webperf-minutes.html JatinderMann