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17:01:17 Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:01:17 Date: 16 February 2012
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17:01:38 +glenn
17:01:52 +[Microsoft]
17:01:58 +[Microsoft.a]
17:02:02 Zakim, who's on the phone?
17:02:02 On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, +1.619.846.aaaa, Julian, glenn, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a]
17:02:09 Zakim, mute me
17:02:09 Julian should now be muted
17:02:13 zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
17:02:13 +adrianba; got it
17:02:21 Zakim, aaaa is me
17:02:21 +hober; got it
17:02:24 zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
17:02:24 +paulc; got it
17:02:28 +Sam
17:03:37 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0015.html
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17:04:02 topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, February 16
17:04:06 paulc: none
17:04:08 scribe: rubys
17:04:15 Zakim, call Mike
17:04:15 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:04:17 +Mike
17:04:30 zakim, code?
17:04:30 the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Judy
17:04:34 topic: New Issues This Week
17:04:37 issue-204?
17:04:37 ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
17:04:37 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
17:04:48 paulc: split off issue 30
17:04:54 issue-205?
17:04:54 ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open
17:04:54 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
17:05:07 +Judy
17:05:14 paulc: split off issue 131, simplifying that issue
17:05:21 issue-80?
17:05:21 ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
17:05:21 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
17:05:30 reopened: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0105.html
17:05:59 paulc: one tracker request (escallation on a non-last call item)
17:06:09 http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
17:06:17 +mjs
17:06:18 paulc: chairs are prioritizing last-call items first, we have not processed this request
17:06:33 topic: Items Closed Last Week
17:06:52 judy: I have comments on 204
17:06:58 paulc: go ahead
17:07:35 judy: Janina and I are requesting a co-ordination call with you (paulc) on the split of issue-30 and the timing
17:08:26 paulc: can you put a link in the minutes to the concerns?
17:08:48 judy: it would be valuable to have a call
17:09:03 paulc: I will check my calendar
17:09:29 judy: if you aren't available, I would appreciate meeting with at least one of the co-chairs
17:09:51 paulc: send us an email, and we will find a slot that works
17:10:09 topic: Items Closed Last Week
17:10:18 issue-172?
17:10:18 ISSUE-172 -- restore as an optional element -- open
17:10:18 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
17:10:31 issue-183?
17:10:31 ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
17:10:31 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
17:10:36 issue-184?
17:10:36 ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
17:10:36 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
17:10:59 three call for alternate proposals above closed on Feb 11
17:11:03 issue-131?
17:11:03 ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
17:11:03 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
17:11:06 issue-179?
17:11:06 ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
17:11:06 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
17:11:19 both call for proposals closed Feb 11
17:11:46 paulc: this agenda doesn't cover items that closed yesterday (or today)
17:12:13 paulc: if there are no change proposals, expect the issue to be closed. If there are no counters, expect a call for consensus
17:12:26 topic: Items Closing This Week
17:12:28 issue-193?
17:12:28 ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- open
17:12:28 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
17:12:35 issue-194?
17:12:35 ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
17:12:35 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
17:12:42 issue-195?
17:12:42 ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- raised
17:12:42 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
17:12:48 issue-196?
17:12:48 ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- raised
17:12:48 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196
17:12:53 issue-197?
17:12:53 ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- open
17:12:53 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197
17:13:10 paulc: all the above closed yesterday
17:13:18 issue-182?
17:13:18 ISSUE-182 -- Advice in spec about annotations promotes inaccessible content -- open
17:13:18 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/182
17:13:21 issue-185?
17:13:21 ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open
17:13:21 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185
17:13:29 issue-188?
17:13:29 ISSUE-188 -- Text tracks in HTML should be defined in a way agnostic of the specific caption format -- open
17:13:29 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/188
17:13:33 issue-189?
17:13:33 ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
17:13:33 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
17:13:40 issue-198?
17:13:40 ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- raised
17:13:40 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
17:13:45 issue-199?
17:13:45 ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- raised
17:13:45 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
17:13:55 issue-200?
17:13:55 ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- raised
17:13:55 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
17:14:02 issue-201?
17:14:02 ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- open
17:14:02 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
17:14:04 issue-202?
17:14:04 ISSUE-202 -- Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length -- raised
17:14:04 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/202
17:14:09 issue-203?
17:14:09 ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- raised
17:14:10 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
17:14:29 paulc: the above closes today
17:14:31 With reference to agendum # 1 above, and the request to meet w/ Paul or another Co-Chair regarding procedural concerns about new issue #204, background is in Text Subteam minutes, with notes following "30: Longdesc" http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-text-minutes.html#item01
17:15:12 topic: Items Closing Next Week
17:15:22 issue-187?
17:15:25 ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open
17:15:25 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
17:15:36 issue-190?
17:15:36 ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open
17:15:36 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
17:15:44 issue-191?
17:15:44 ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement and elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
17:15:44 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
17:15:47 issue-192?
17:15:47 ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open
17:15:47 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
17:15:54 paulc: these four close Feb 23
17:16:07 topic: New Calls this week
17:16:09 issue-80?
17:16:10 ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
17:16:10 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
17:16:31 paulc: this was reopened, and as we got a change proposal, we have issued a call for alternate or counter proposals closing March 14
17:16:40 issue-131?
17:16:40 ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
17:16:40 http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
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17:17:10 paulc: we have proposals, so we have issued a call for alternate or counters, also closing on march 14th
17:17:14 issue-158?
17:17:15 ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for