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13:53:21 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: CR Transition Call, zakim code: 7322
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13:59:09 <Ashok> zakim, code?
13:59:09 <Zakim> the conference code is 7322 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Ashok
13:59:15 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
13:59:15 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
13:59:16 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF(CR)9:00AM has now started
13:59:17 <Zakim> +Ivan
13:59:24 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:59:37 <Ashok> zakim, IPCaller is me
13:59:37 <Zakim> +Ashok; got it
13:59:40 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
13:59:42 <tlr> zakim, call thomas-781
13:59:42 <Zakim> ok, tlr; the call is being made
13:59:44 <Zakim> +Thomas
13:59:47 <ivan> zakim, drop me
13:59:47 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
13:59:48 <Zakim> -Ivan
14:00:07 <ivan> skype got into an infinite cycle
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14:00:49 <mhausenblas> Chair: Thomas
14:00:54 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas 
14:01:24 <Zakim> +TimBL
14:01:25 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
14:01:25 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
14:01:26 <Zakim> +Ivan
14:01:39 <mhausenblas> present+ Thomas
14:01:46 <mhausenblas> present+ Ashok
14:01:54 <mhausenblas> present+ TimBL
14:01:56 <tlr> cygri, are you expecting to join?
14:02:07 <mhausenblas> present+ Ivan
14:02:15 <cygri> tlr, no
14:02:28 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
14:02:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
14:02:35 <tlr> so, the record is usually confidential to the team and the participants in the call.
14:02:40 <tlr> Please choose whether you're on the call or off.
14:03:05 <tlr> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012JanMar/0033.html
14:03:10 <mhausenblas> tlr: record is not public for the transition request
14:03:28 <mhausenblas> tlr: the request concerns two specs, R2RML and DM
14:03:56 <mhausenblas> present+ Michael
14:04:22 <mhausenblas> tlr: we move to other channel
14:04:55 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF(CR)9:00AM has been moved to #rdb2rdfcr by tlr
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16:07:57 <mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon
16:07:57 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:07:57 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:08:05 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:08:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-RDB2RDF-minutes.html trackbot
16:08:06 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:08:22 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, bye
16:08:32 <mhausenblas> trackbot, start telecon
16:08:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:08:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
16:08:37 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 52 minutes
16:08:38 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:08:38 <trackbot> Date: 14 February 2012
16:08:55 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2012Feb/0058.html
16:08:58 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
16:09:02 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas 
16:09:08 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes 
16:09:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:30:07 <ivan> ivan has joined #rdb2rdf
16:37:27 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: RDB2RDF WG Call 2012-02-14
16:37:33 <ivan> trackbot, start telcon
16:37:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:37:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
16:37:38 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 23 minutes
16:37:39 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:37:39 <trackbot> Date: 14 February 2012
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16:52:09 <ivan> better more than never:-)
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16:57:34 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
16:57:41 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
16:57:42 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
16:57:42 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
16:57:43 <Zakim> +Ivan
16:58:15 <mhausenblas> present+ Ivan
16:58:18 <mhausenblas> present+ Michael
16:58:23 <mhausenblas> present+ Richard
16:58:28 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me
16:58:28 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
16:58:44 <cygri> zakim, move me over to mhausenblas' desk
16:58:44 <Zakim> I don't understand 'move me over to mhausenblas' desk', cygri
16:58:49 <Zakim> +boris
16:58:55 <mhausenblas> present+ Boris
16:59:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:59:36 <mhausenblas> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Ashok 
16:59:36 <Zakim> +Ashok; got it
16:59:37 <ivan> zakim, drop me
16:59:37 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
16:59:39 <Zakim> -Ivan
16:59:47 <Ashok> zakim, IpCaller is me
16:59:47 <Zakim> sorry, Ashok, I do not recognize a party named 'IpCaller'
17:00:08 <mhausenblas> present+ Ashok
17:00:11 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
17:00:11 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
17:00:12 <Zakim> +Ivan
17:00:30 <Zakim> -Ivan
17:00:36 <ivan> sigh...
17:00:43 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
17:00:43 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
17:00:45 <Zakim> +Ivan
17:00:55 <ivan> zakim, drop me
17:00:55 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
17:00:57 <Zakim> -Ivan
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17:01:15 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
17:01:22 <Zakim> +juansequeda
17:01:27 <mhausenblas> present+ Ted
17:01:29 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
17:01:29 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
17:01:30 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
17:01:30 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
17:01:30 <mhausenblas> present+ Juan
17:01:31 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
17:01:32 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
17:01:32 <Zakim> +Ivan
17:01:47 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:01:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
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17:02:14 <Zakim> +dmcneil
17:02:16 <Zakim> -Ivan
17:02:23 <mhausenblas> present+ David
17:02:25 <Zakim> -boris
17:03:11 <Zakim> +EricP
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17:03:19 <mhausenblas> present+ Eric
17:03:31 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Nuno
17:03:56 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Percy
17:04:12 <Zakim> +??P6
17:04:21 <mhausenblas> Zakim, ??P6 is joerg 
17:04:21 <Zakim> +joerg; got it
17:04:26 <mhausenblas> present+ Joerg
17:04:54 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin
17:05:05 <Zakim> +boris
17:05:18 <Zakim> +Souri
17:05:22 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?
17:05:32 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: boris (80%), joerg (20%), mhausenblas (15%)
17:05:40 <MacTed> Zakim, mute boris
17:05:40 <Zakim> boris should now be muted
17:05:44 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
17:05:44 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
17:05:46 <boris> sorry
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17:06:39 <mhausenblas> present+ Souri
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17:07:07 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/02/07-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
17:07:21 <boris> +1
17:07:27 <mhausenblas> RESOLUTION: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2012/02/07-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
17:07:44 <mhausenblas> Topic:  Director approves transition of RDB2RDF specs to CR!
17:08:15 <mhausenblas> Ashok: we had a telecon with W3C Director, Tim Berners-Lee who approved that we can go CR with our documents
17:08:30 <mhausenblas> ... good new, congrats!
17:08:33 <Zakim> +Seema
17:08:39 <mhausenblas> present+ Seema
17:08:45 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:08:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:09:02 <mhausenblas> Ashok: When can we publish the documents
17:09:17 <mhausenblas> ... could you handle this please, ericP? 
17:09:54 <cygri> q+
17:09:55 <mhausenblas> ericP: shall we work on the TC and test framework?
17:10:13 <mhausenblas> ericP: the SotD incl. pointers to test suite and IR
17:10:34 <mhausenblas> ... and the more we provide there the better
17:10:38 <mhausenblas> q?
17:10:40 <ivan> zakim, code?
17:10:40 <Zakim> the conference code is 7322733 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan
17:11:23 <mhausenblas> ericP: useful for outreach to non WG implementors
17:11:25 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:11:26 <Zakim> +Ivan
17:11:48 <mhausenblas> cygri: I think we have a pretty good idea who the implementors are, so we can use what we have
17:11:55 <mhausenblas> Michael: I agree with Richard
17:13:05 <mhausenblas> Ashok: Agree as well
17:13:26 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Eric to take care of publication of CR docs
17:13:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-201 - Take care of publication of CR docs [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2012-02-21].
17:13:43 <mhausenblas> q?
17:13:53 <Zakim> -Ashok
17:14:11 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:15:25 <mhausenblas> Michael: We want to help as many as possible people/implementors to submit EARL reports for the IR
17:15:50 <mhausenblas> Topic: Test Case
17:16:39 <mhausenblas> ACTION-198?
17:16:39 <trackbot> ACTION-198 -- Richard Cyganiak to suggest data errors TC -- due 2012-02-14 -- OPEN
17:16:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/198
17:17:02 <boris> q+
17:17:15 <cygri> q+ to ask lots of stupid questions about the test suite
17:17:21 <mhausenblas> ack boris 
17:17:33 <mhausenblas> Boris: I included new DM TC
17:17:40 <mhausenblas> ... please DM Editors, review
17:17:43 <mhausenblas> q?
17:18:02 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:18:02 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to ask lots of stupid questions about the test suite
17:18:38 <mhausenblas> q?
17:19:33 <mhausenblas> cygri: what is the current version of the TC? where do I go?
17:20:40 <mhausenblas> cygri: what is the process of submitting a TC?
17:21:33 <Ashok> q+
17:21:45 <mhausenblas> ack Ashok 
17:21:54 <boris> q+
17:22:03 <mhausenblas> Ashok: wondering what the deadline is re the TC
17:22:04 <mhausenblas> q?
17:22:21 <mhausenblas> Ashok: end of Feb 2012?
17:22:39 <mhausenblas> boris: yes, ideally till end of Feb would be good
17:22:45 <cygri> q+
17:22:52 <mhausenblas> ... but also everyone review the TC
17:22:54 <mhausenblas> q?
17:22:56 <mhausenblas> ack boris 
17:22:59 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:23:38 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
17:23:38 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
17:24:31 <boris> q+
17:24:52 <mhausenblas> q?
17:24:55 <mhausenblas> ack boris 
17:25:11 <mhausenblas> cygri: I'd assume that the Wiki is the more relevant starting point
17:25:21 <mhausenblas> Michael: OK, fair point
17:26:03 <boris> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests
17:26:18 <ericP> should i see <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases_v1#I18NnoSpecialChars> in <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/> ?
17:26:31 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestCases#Suggestions_for_new_TCs
17:27:17 <boris> q+
17:27:54 <mhausenblas> ack boris 
17:28:01 <cygri> q+ to ask more stupid questions
17:28:16 <ericP> q+ to ask about coverage of http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases_v1 in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
17:28:21 <mhausenblas> boris: Not sure if the WG agrees with the TC process as it currently stands
17:28:26 <mhausenblas> q?
17:28:30 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:28:30 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to ask more stupid questions
17:29:19 <mhausenblas> cygri: I suggest that we use existing Wiki pages
17:29:34 <mhausenblas> q?
17:29:46 <mhausenblas> cygri: re creation of new TC
17:30:10 <mhausenblas> ... you want the TC as prose and then you, boris create it?
17:30:12 <mhausenblas> boris: yes
17:30:18 <mhausenblas> ack ericP 
17:30:18 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask about coverage of http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases_v1 in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
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17:30:48 <mhausenblas> ericP: great job so far, boris 
17:31:24 <mhausenblas> ... all TC covered (it seems some of my old ones have not been added)
17:31:34 <mhausenblas> boris: correct, should be synced
17:31:44 <mhausenblas> q?
17:32:32 <mhausenblas> ericP: should I directly work in the Wiki page to suggest new, yes?
17:32:38 <mhausenblas> boris: yes
17:33:38 <mhausenblas> (ericP  and boris discuss how to collaborate on TC workflow)
17:33:52 <mhausenblas> ericP: works for me - cygri, how about you? 
17:34:17 <ericP> q
17:34:29 <ericP> q+ to talk about SPARQL Manifest.ttl
17:34:54 <mhausenblas> cygri: I believe that once we start running the TC as I work against files it's hard to work with Wiki pages
17:34:55 <mhausenblas> q?
17:34:57 <boris> q+
17:35:02 <mhausenblas> ack ericP 
17:35:02 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to talk about SPARQL Manifest.ttl
17:35:05 <ericP> ack me
17:35:32 <mhausenblas> ericP: In the SPARQL WG, all the Editors could write TC
17:36:12 <mhausenblas> ... and then put it in the Manifest.ttl
17:36:55 <mhausenblas> Michael: I note that we also have a manifest - it's http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/ - with RDFa ;)
17:37:03 <mhausenblas> q?
17:37:10 <mhausenblas> ack boris 
17:38:06 <cygri> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests/file/default
17:38:37 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestCases#Suggestions_for_new_TCs
17:38:47 <boris> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests/raw-file/0e41f966d036/D000-1table0rows/manifest.ttl
17:38:53 <mhausenblas>  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases
17:40:05 <boris> yes, exactly
17:40:16 <cygri> any23 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
17:41:02 <ivan> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A//www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
17:41:33 <mhausenblas> q?
17:43:00 <mhausenblas> cygri: I think it is well done and we only need to document this nicely on the Wiki and remove duplicates
17:44:30 <Ashok> So, we need to review the Test Cases by mail
17:45:02 <mhausenblas> Michael: we can do it via mailing list or calls (but this doesn't scale I think ;)
17:45:18 <mhausenblas> Michael: Suggest to review in batches via list
17:46:02 <boris> +1 by mail
17:47:00 <mhausenblas> Richard: Fine with me to review via mailing list but we shouldn't rush
17:48:00 <mhausenblas> ericP: In SPARQL we just ran them
17:48:14 <boris> I can identify the simple ones and the corner cases
17:49:26 <Ashok> That would a big help, Boris
17:50:53 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Boris to suggest simple and corner TC to the mailing list
17:50:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-202 - Suggest simple and corner TC to the mailing list [on Boris Villazón-Terrazas - due 2012-02-21].
17:51:10 <cygri> q+
17:51:14 <mhausenblas> Topic: Meeting frequency
17:51:16 <mhausenblas> q?
17:52:09 <cygri> ack me
17:52:35 <mhausenblas> Ashok: Let's cancel next week and then keep weekly schedule till we have the TC sorted
17:52:39 <mhausenblas> Michael: +1
17:52:39 <Souri> regrets - I'm not around next week 
17:53:04 <Souri> send the URL via email please
17:53:16 <Ashok> No call next week ... next call Feb 28
17:53:16 <Souri> thansk boris
17:53:23 <Zakim> -dmcneil
17:53:24 <Zakim> -joerg
17:53:24 <Zakim> -EricP
17:53:25 <Zakim> -Seema
17:53:25 <Zakim> -Souri
17:53:26 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:53:26 <Zakim> -MacTed
17:53:28 <Zakim> -Ivan
17:53:29 <mhausenblas> [meeting adjourned]
17:53:29 <Zakim> -juansequeda
17:53:31 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
17:53:33 <Zakim> -boris
17:53:33 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:53:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/02/14-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:53:36 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has ended
17:53:37 <Zakim> Attendees were mhausenblas, Ivan, cygri, boris, Ashok, juansequeda, MacTed, dmcneil, EricP, joerg, Souri, Seema, [IPcaller]
17:54:59 <ericP> lastlog cygri
17:57:49 <ivan> Ah
17:57:54 <ivan> no, I just cleaned them...
17:58:10 <ivan> everybody expects the minutes coming from you:-)
17:58:32 <cygri> boris?
17:58:43 <ivan> as I sad, ping, pong, ping, pong, done!
17:58:50 <ivan> s/sad/said/
17:59:02 <cygri> boris, i'm looking at the RDFa triples in the test cases document
18:00:28 <boris> yes, now I know what you were doing ... 
18:01:06 <boris> (the sound was not good with my phone today ...)
18:01:49 <cygri> boris, there's a bunch of problems with the RDFa triples that I get from the document. i don't know if they're any23 problems or problems with the markup
18:01:53 <cygri> i'll write an email
18:02:52 <boris> ok, I can try to parse them with other tool in the mean time ....
18:03:35 <boris> ivan was using this
18:03:36 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestCases#Suggestions_for_new_TCs
18:03:51 <ivan> what did I do?
18:03:57 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2007/08/pyRdfa/extract?uri=http%3A//www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/
18:04:04 <ivan> ah:-)
18:06:28 <boris> Nuno was also checking the RDFa from the TC document
18:06:36 <boris> as far as I remember
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