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16:57:01 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:57:01 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:57:02 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:57:02 <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2012
16:57:26 <glenn> Scribe: glenn
16:57:46 <Julian> Julian has joined #html-wg
16:57:50 <glenn> Chair: rubys
16:58:02 <glenn> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0003.html
16:58:36 <Zakim> +Julian
16:58:37 <glenn> Topic: Actions Due by Thursday, January 19
16:58:45 <Julian> Zakim, mute me
16:58:45 <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
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16:59:15 <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
16:59:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:59:19 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
16:59:19 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
16:59:20 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:59:20 <trackbot> Date: 19 January 2012
16:59:32 <Zakim> +[Apple]
16:59:38 <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
16:59:38 <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
16:59:39 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0003.html
17:00:19 <glenn> chair: rubys
17:00:22 <glenn> scribe: glenn
17:00:28 <adrianba> adrianba has joined #html-wg
17:00:33 <glenn> topic: Actions Due by Thursday, January 19
17:00:36 <Zakim> +Sam
17:00:52 <Zakim> +[Apple.a]
17:01:01 <glenn> ACTION-207?
17:01:01 <trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-01-31 -- OPEN
17:01:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207
17:01:09 <hober> Zakim, Apple.a has hober
17:01:09 <Zakim> +hober; got it
17:01:54 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:02:03 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
17:02:04 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
17:02:34 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:02:39 <eliot> eliot has joined #html-wg
17:02:46 <paulc> paulc has joined #html-wg
17:02:56 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
17:02:57 <paulc> zakim, who is on the call?
17:02:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see GlennAdams, Julian (muted), [Apple], Sam, [Apple.a], adrianba, [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly
17:02:59 <Zakim> [Apple.a] has hober
17:02:59 <Zakim> [Apple] has dsinger
17:03:09 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
17:03:09 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
17:03:36 <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aaaa
17:03:50 <eliot> zakim, +1.206.850.aaa is me
17:03:50 <Zakim> +eliot; got it
17:03:57 <glenn> rubys: progressing, moved to end of month
17:04:09 <glenn> questions?
17:04:12 <glenn> Topic: New Issues This Week
17:04:18 <rubys> ISSUE-193?
17:04:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- raised
17:04:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
17:04:18 <rubys> ISSUE-194?
17:04:18 <rubys> ISSUE-195?
17:04:18 <rubys> ISSUE-196?
17:04:18 <rubys> ISSUE-197?
17:04:18 <rubys> ISSUE-198?
17:04:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a full transcript with an audio or video element. -- raised
17:04:18 <glenn> ISSUE-193?
17:04:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
17:04:20 <rubys> ISSUE-199?
17:04:22 <rubys> ISSUE-200?
17:04:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from forms -- raised
17:04:24 <rubys> ISSUE-201?
17:04:25 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
17:04:26 <rubys> ISSUE-202?
17:04:29 <trackbot> ISSUE-196 -- Define user agent http response handling behaviour -- raised
17:04:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/196
17:04:35 <trackbot> ISSUE-197 -- Accept attribute should allow file extensions in addition to the current allowed values -- raised
17:04:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/197
17:04:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-198 -- Ensure innerHTML and related APIs are subject to the W3C patent policy -- raised
17:04:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/198
17:04:48 <trackbot> ISSUE-193 -- Remove CSS example that promotes inaccessible content -- raised
17:04:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/193
17:04:54 <trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements for ARIA attributes -- raised
17:04:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
17:05:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in non-FIELDSET elements -- raised
17:05:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
17:05:06 <trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing capability to fallback content -- raised
17:05:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
17:05:12 <trackbot> ISSUE-202 -- Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length -- raised
17:05:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/202
17:05:36 <glenn> rubys: will go through these later in agenda
17:05:47 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
17:05:47 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:05:49 <Zakim> +Mike
17:06:01 <glenn> also tracker request under other business
17:06:11 <glenn> deadline of jan 14th producing much activity
17:06:23 <glenn> Topic: Items Closed Last Week
17:06:34 <glenn> ISSUE-189?
17:06:34 <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- open
17:06:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
17:07:00 <cyns> cyns has joined #html-wg
17:07:13 <glenn> rubys: call for counter proposals
17:07:31 <glenn> Topic: Items Closing This Week
17:07:42 <glenn> ISSUE-180? allowpopups, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18 
17:07:54 <glenn> ISSUE-181? remove-sidebar, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18 
17:07:58 <laura> laura has joined #html-wg
17:08:36 <glenn> ISSUE-187? validity-stability, extension closes Jan 21 
17:08:46 <glenn> ISSUE-190? coding-example, Change Proposals due Jan 21
17:08:46 <glenn> ISSUE-191? ins-del, Change Proposals due Jan 21
17:08:46 <glenn> ISSUE-192? title-attribute, Change Proposals due Jan 21
17:09:09 <glenn> Topic: Items Closing Next Week 
17:09:14 <glenn> None
17:09:19 <glenn> Topic: New Calls This Week 
17:09:32 <glenn> ISSUE-185? drop-pubdate, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 16
17:09:32 <glenn> ISSUE-188? generic-track-format, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 16
17:09:32 <glenn> ISSUE-189? uri-web-prefix, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 16
17:09:39 <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
17:10:00 <glenn> ISSUE-193? inaccessible-example, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
17:10:00 <glenn> ISSUE-194? full-transcript, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
17:10:00 <glenn> ISSUE-195? form-http-req, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
17:10:01 <glenn> ISSUE-196? ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
17:10:03 <glenn> ISSUE-197? accept-file-ext, Call for Proposals closes Feb 15
17:10:15 <glenn> ISSUE-198? innerHTML-patent-policy, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
17:10:15 <glenn> ISSUE-199? aria-processing, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
17:10:15 <glenn> ISSUE-200? legend-placement, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
17:10:16 <glenn> ISSUE-201? canvas-fallback, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
17:10:18 <glenn> ISSUE-202? figcaption-words, Call for Proposals closes Feb 16
17:10:35 <glenn> Topic: New Surveys This Week
17:10:35 <glenn> None
17:10:50 <glenn> Topic: Decisions This Week
17:10:50 <glenn> ISSUE-186?
17:10:50 <trackbot> ISSUE-186 -- conformance error for use of role=presentation on interactive elements -- closed
17:10:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/186
17:11:14 <glenn> rubys: closed without prejudice due to lack of CP
17:11:23 <glenn> questions/comments on any of above?
17:11:50 <glenn> Topic: Other Business
17:11:50 <glenn> (a) ISSUE-177? ietf-id-wip
17:11:50 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Dec/0079.html
17:11:51 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Dec/0123.html
17:11:53 <glenn> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6454
17:12:02 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
17:12:02 <glenn> ISSUE-177?
17:12:02 <trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
17:12:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
17:12:28 <glenn> rubys: material that may change CP
17:12:29 <Julian> Zakim, unmute me
17:12:30 <Zakim> Julian should no longer be muted
17:12:53 <glenn> rubys: julian: have you noticed rfc status has changed?
17:13:00 <glenn> julian: shall i revise?
17:13:09 <glenn> rubys: did CP talk about multiple?
17:13:14 <glenn> julian: 2 or 3
17:13:37 <glenn> julian: can raise as new bug (?where?)
17:13:51 <glenn> .. thanks for notifying about change of status
17:13:53 <Julian> Zakim, mute me
17:13:53 <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
17:14:01 <glenn> rubys: discuss further as need on email
17:14:10 <glenn> (b) Bug 13651: request for extension
17:14:10 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0147.html
17:14:10 <glenn> https://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/202
17:14:32 <glenn> rubys: extension has been resolved, ISSUE-202 created
17:14:45 <glenn> (c) Change Proposal for issue 182 sent past deadline
17:14:45 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0048.html
17:14:45 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0082.html
17:14:55 <glenn> rubys: reopened based on CP
17:15:02 <glenn> (d) New Issue Request: media textual descriptions
17:15:02 <glenn> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0213.html
17:15:02 <glenn> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12228
17:15:04 <glenn> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12794
17:15:16 <glenn> rubys: ISSUE-203 has been opened, call for CP
17:15:27 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0098.html
17:15:47 <glenn> (e) Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-12-12 - 2012-01-15
17:15:47 <glenn> http://www.w3.org/QA/2012/01/openweb-weekly-24.html
17:15:57 <glenn> rubys: starting up after vacations
17:16:03 <glenn> .. folks should review
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17:16:32 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0099.html
17:16:35 <glenn> (f) Feb 11 is important deadline for RFI
17:17:07 <glenn> rubys: questions/comments?
17:17:22 <laura> What is the Chairs' plan to move on ISSUE-30 longdesc? Is there a timeline?
17:17:34 <glenn> laura: wondering about plan for ISSUE-30 is there timeline?
17:17:36 <laura> Paul had previously mentioned that the Chairs had estimated that they would be finished reviewing proposals on December 11.
17:17:36 <laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2011Nov/0227.html
17:17:43 <glenn> rubys: is mjs on call?
17:17:43 <laura> On December 15 Maciej said he hoped the final review would be out before the holiday break.
17:17:43 <laura> http://www.w3.org/2011/12/15-html-wg-minutes.html#item11
17:18:17 <glenn> ISSUE-30?
17:18:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
17:18:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
17:18:39 <glenn> rubys: waiting for draft from mjs
17:19:17 <glenn> Topic: Scribe for Next Meeting
17:19:31 <glenn> paulc: up for chair
17:19:47 <glenn> paulc: needs scribe
17:20:02 <glenn> ted: volunteers to scribe
17:20:09 <Zakim> -Mike
17:20:12 <glenn> Topic: Adjournment
17:20:12 <Zakim> -[Apple]
17:20:13 <laura> bye
17:20:18 <glenn> rrsagent, publish minutes
17:20:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-wg-minutes.html glenn
17:20:20 <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
17:20:21 <Zakim> -[Apple.a]
17:20:23 <Zakim> -Julian
17:20:25 <Zakim> -eliot
17:20:28 <Zakim> -Sam
17:20:30 <Zakim> -adrianba
17:20:49 <glenn> trackbot-ng, end meeting 
17:20:49 <trackbot> Sorry, glenn, I don't understand 'trackbot-ng, end meeting '. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
17:21:00 <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
17:21:00 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
17:21:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been GlennAdams, Julian, dsinger, Sam, [Apple], hober, adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, paulc, +1.206.850.aaaa, eliot, Mike, Laura_Carlson
17:21:03 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:21:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-wg-minutes.html trackbot
17:21:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
17:21:04 <RRSAgent> I see no action items