IRC log of html-wg on 2012-01-12
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- 17:04:17 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-irc
- 17:04:23 [Julian]
- Zakim, who's on the phone?
- 17:04:23 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see +49.251.280.aaaa, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams
- 17:04:30 [glenn]
- zakim, who is noisy?
- 17:04:34 [paulc]
- zakim, who is making noise?
- 17:04:36 [Julian]
- Zakim, +49.251.280.aaaa is me
- 17:04:36 [Zakim]
- +Julian; got it
- 17:04:38 [eliot]
- zakim, microsoft has me
- 17:04:38 [Zakim]
- +eliot; got it
- 17:04:39 [mjs]
- Zakim: +1.415.595.aabb is me
- 17:04:41 [Zakim]
- glenn, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: +49.251.280.aaaa (39%)
- 17:04:45 [Julian]
- Zakim, mute me
- 17:04:45 [Zakim]
- Julian should now be muted
- 17:04:52 [Zakim]
- paulc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Julian (19%)
- 17:05:02 [paulc]
- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 17:05:03 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Julian (muted), [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams
- 17:05:05 [Zakim]
- [Microsoft] has eliot
- 17:05:13 [eliot]
- did not
- 17:05:37 [paulc]
- zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
- 17:05:37 [Zakim]
- +paulc; got it
- 17:06:04 [Zakim]
- +??P15
- 17:06:23 [janina]
- janina has joined #html-wg
- 17:06:34 [janina]
- zakim, who's here?
- 17:06:34 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Julian (muted), [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams, ??P15
- 17:06:37 [Zakim]
- [Microsoft.a] has paulc
- 17:06:37 [Zakim]
- [Microsoft] has eliot
- 17:06:39 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see janina, RRSAgent, Zakim, paulc, MFoladare, glenn, mjs, eliot, Julian, krisk, tH, heycam|away, webben, miketaylr, Lachy, dveditz, davidb, danielfilho, plh, MikeSmith,
- 17:06:44 [Zakim]
- ... ArtB, nonge_, krijnh, arronei, gavin_, tantek, shepazu, Dashiva, Jedi, CIA-1, rektide, hiro, hober, hsivonen, ed, paul___irish, johndrinkwater, trackbot, slightlyoff, pingo,
- 17:06:47 [Zakim]
- ... Hixie, inimino, Philip, jgraham, [tm], jmb
- 17:06:53 [janina]
- zakim, ??P15 is Janina_Sajka
- 17:06:53 [Zakim]
- +Janina_Sajka; got it
- 17:06:58 [Zakim]
- +Cynthia_Shelly
- 17:07:13 [mjs]
- Julian, still willing to scribe?
- 17:07:33 [Julian]
- mjs, no - did I say so?
- 17:07:57 [mjs]
- Julian: I may have misunderstood - right after I asked for a volunteer you said "once I can tell Zakim!"
- 17:08:34 [paulc]
- We can hear you.
- 17:09:14 [MikeSmith]
- Zakim, call Mike
- 17:09:14 [Zakim]
- ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
- 17:09:14 [mjs]
- scribenick: mjs
- 17:09:15 [Zakim]
- +Mike
- 17:09:32 [Zakim]
- +tantek
- 17:09:35 [mjs]
- ACTION-207?
- 17:09:35 [trackbot]
- ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-01-05 -- OPEN
- 17:09:35 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207
- 17:10:03 [mjs]
- topic: New Issues This Week
- 17:10:09 [paulc]
- ACTION-207 is due next week
- 17:10:15 [mjs]
- MS: none
- 17:10:23 [Zakim]
- +[Microsoft.aa]
- 17:10:41 [mjs]
- MS: 3 tracker requsts: http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
- 17:10:48 [tantek]
- Zakim, mute tantek
- 17:10:48 [Zakim]
- tantek should now be muted
- 17:10:50 [mjs]
- topic: Items Closed Last Week
- 17:10:55 [mjs]
- MS: none
- 17:11:03 [mjs]
- topic: Items Closing This Week
- 17:11:21 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-189 uri-web-prefix
- 17:11:22 [mjs]
- ISSUE-189?
- 17:11:22 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- raised
- 17:11:22 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
- 17:11:23 [krisk]
- zakim, Microsoft.aa is krisk
- 17:11:23 [Zakim]
- +krisk; got it
- 17:11:52 [mjs]
- topic: Items Closing Next Week
- 17:12:20 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-187: validity-stability extended til Jan 21
- 17:12:25 [mjs]
- ISSUE-187?
- 17:12:25 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- raised
- 17:12:25 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
- 17:12:43 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-190: coding-example, due Jan 21
- 17:12:48 [mjs]
- ISSUE-190?
- 17:12:48 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- raised
- 17:12:48 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
- 17:13:04 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-191: ins-del due Jan 21
- 17:13:08 [mjs]
- ISSUE-191?
- 17:13:08 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- raised
- 17:13:08 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
- 17:13:22 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-192: title-attribute due Jan 21
- 17:13:25 [mjs]
- ISSUE-192?
- 17:13:25 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- raised
- 17:13:25 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
- 17:13:34 [mjs]
- MS: due Jan 21
- 17:15:16 [mjs]
- CS: (inquires about nature of Jan 21)
- 17:15:25 [mjs]
- MS: see the issue description
- 17:15:35 [mjs]
- CS: Steve is probably going to send something
- 17:15:45 [mjs]
- JS: and he will probably have task force backing
- 17:15:51 [mjs]
- Topic: New Calls this week
- 17:16:10 [mjs]
- MS: quite a few this week
- 17:16:21 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-180: allowpopups, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18
- 17:16:51 [mjs]
- ISSUE-180?
- 17:16:51 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
- 17:16:51 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
- 17:16:57 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0037.html
- 17:17:13 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-179: av_param, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
- 17:17:18 [mjs]
- ISSUE-179?
- 17:17:18 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
- 17:17:18 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
- 17:17:40 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0045.html
- 17:17:57 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-181: remove-sidebar, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18
- 17:18:07 [mjs]
- ISSUE-181?
- 17:18:07 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open
- 17:18:07 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
- 17:18:08 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0038.html
- 17:18:22 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-172: restore-rb, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
- 17:18:35 [mjs]
- ISSUE-172?
- 17:18:35 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- raised
- 17:18:35 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
- 17:18:36 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0039.html
- 17:19:03 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-183: enhance-time, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
- 17:19:26 [mjs]
- ISSUE-183?
- 17:19:26 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
- 17:19:26 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
- 17:19:27 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0047.html
- 17:20:05 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-184: data-element, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
- 17:20:15 [mjs]
- ISSUE-184?
- 17:20:15 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
- 17:20:15 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
- 17:20:21 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0042.html
- 17:20:55 [tantek]
- aside: I've worked to resolve differeing opinions on ISSUE-183 and don't know of any outstanding alternate opinions on it - if anyone does, please let me know so we can attempt include that in the consensus.
- 17:21:42 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-185: drop-pubdate, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
- 17:21:52 [mjs]
- ISSUE-185?
- 17:21:52 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open
- 17:21:53 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185
- 17:22:22 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0040.html
- 17:22:38 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-131: caret-location-API, Call for Proposals closes Feb 11
- 17:22:43 [mjs]
- ISSUE-131?
- 17:22:43 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
- 17:22:43 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
- 17:22:51 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0041.html
- 17:23:54 [mjs]
- MS: clock is ticking
- 17:23:57 [mjs]
- MS: any questions?
- 17:24:05 [mjs]
- JS: in last week's TF call we discussed 131
- 17:24:14 [mjs]
- JS: we will have a CP from the TF, Steve Faulkner will be the editor
- 17:24:31 [mjs]
- MS: thanks; any other qustions?
- 17:24:37 [mjs]
- topic: New Surveys this week
- 17:24:45 [mjs]
- MS: None
- 17:24:48 [mjs]
- topic: Decisions this week
- 17:24:56 [mjs]
- MS: ISSUE-182: footnote-recommendation, Closed Without Prejudice
- 17:26:29 [mjs]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0049.html
- 17:26:47 [mjs]
- MS: closed without prejudice means you can reopen it just by submitting a Change Proposal
- 17:27:02 [mjs]
- MS: any questions?
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- Topic: Task Force Reports
- 17:27:26 [mjs]
- MS: testing task force?
- 17:27:32 [mjs]
- KK: I'm here
- 17:27:40 [krisk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0001.html
- 17:27:41 [mjs]
- KK: we met as planned last week
- 17:27:52 [mjs]
- KK: meet again this coming week on normal schedule
- 17:27:58 [mjs]
- KK: there were some offline app cache tests
- 17:28:05 [mjs]
- KK: that's one big thing
- 17:28:09 [krisk]
- offline appcache tests are in HG http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/Infraware/
- 17:28:19 [mjs]
- KK: more bidi tests submitted
- 17:28:22 [krisk]
- http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/html5bidi/
- 17:28:50 [mjs]
- MS: accessibility task force?
- 17:28:57 [mjs]
- JS: accessibility TF has been busy
- 17:29:29 [mjs]
- JS: decided on approach w/ Steve F as editor
- 17:29:40 [mjs]
- JS: the rest of our attention is on 100+ bugs; deciding which we need to escalate
- 17:29:46 [mjs]
- JS: expect as many as 5 more escalations
- 17:30:09 [mjs]
- JS: one more meeting planned to categorize
- 17:30:26 [mjs]
- JS: will relate various bugs that are related
- 17:30:37 [mjs]
- JS: trying to organize the issues and combine related bugs
- 17:30:40 [janina]
- http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-a11y-minutes.html
- 17:30:53 [mjs]
- JS: text sub team met this week
- 17:31:04 [mjs]
- JS: several issues were discussed; talked about title
- 17:31:13 [mjs]
- JS: you can expect a meta generator request to reconsider next week
- 17:31:22 [mjs]
- JS: great interest and concern to respond to longdesc
- 17:31:36 [mjs]
- JS: that's it
- 17:31:50 [mjs]
- MS: any questions or comments about task force reports?
- 17:32:03 [mjs]
- topic: Other Business
- 17:32:22 [mjs]
- topic: Scribe for Next Meeting
- 17:32:52 [glenn]
- i can volunteer
- 17:33:13 [mjs]
- topic: Adjournment
- 17:34:50 [mjs]
- RRSAgent, generate minute
- 17:34:50 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'generate minute', mjs. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:34:50 [Zakim]
- - +1.415.595.aabb
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- -Janina_Sajka
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- -Mike
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- -Radhika_Roy
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- -Julian
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- -krisk
- 17:34:55 [tantek]
- bye!
- 17:34:57 [Zakim]
- -GlennAdams
- 17:34:58 [mjs]
- RRSAgent, generate minutes
- 17:34:58 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html mjs
- 17:34:59 [Zakim]
- -[Microsoft]
- 17:35:00 [Zakim]
- -tantek
- 17:35:04 [Zakim]
- -Cynthia_Shelly
- 17:35:18 [mjs]
- RRSAgent, make minutes public
- 17:35:18 [RRSAgent]
- I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', mjs. Try /msg RRSAgent help
- 17:35:20 [Zakim]
- -[Microsoft.a]
- 17:35:21 [Zakim]
- HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
- 17:35:23 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams, Julian, eliot, paulc, Janina_Sajka, Cynthia_Shelly, Mike, tantek, [Microsoft], krisk
- 17:36:27 [mjs]
- RRSAgent, publish minutes
- 17:36:27 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html mjs
- 17:37:20 [mjs]
- RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
- 17:37:25 [mjs]
- RRSAgent, publish minutes
- 17:37:25 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html mjs
- 17:37:47 [mjs]
- I'm getting a permissions error on http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html , is anyone else having better luck?
- 17:37:54 [mjs]
- ah, there we go
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