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16:00:05 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
16:00:05 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now
16:00:06 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:00:06 <trackbot> Date: 12 January 2012
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16:02:27 <paulc> zakim, who is on the call?
16:02:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see John_Foliot, [Microsoft], ??P22
16:03:04 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P22 is Michael_Cooper
16:03:06 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
16:03:13 <Zakim> +??P35
16:03:25 <Zakim> +Judy
16:03:30 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P35 is Janina_Sajka
16:03:37 <MichaelC> regrets+ Léonie_Watson
16:03:47 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
16:03:49 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
16:03:59 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
16:04:07 <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka; got it
16:04:40 <janina> scribe: janina
16:05:08 <janina> topic: Bug Tagging
16:05:19 <MichaelC> regrets+ Laura_Carlson
16:05:26 <Judy> agenda+	Remaining Bug Processing
16:05:26 <Judy> agenda+	Subteam Reports: ARIA Mapping; Text; Media
16:05:26 <Judy> agenda+	Other Business
16:05:26 <Judy> agenda+ Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
16:05:26 <Judy> agenda+ Identify Scribe for 19 January http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
16:05:27 <Judy> agenda+ be done
16:06:07 <Zakim> +Rich
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16:08:12 <janina> Discussion of whether to create a new tag to indicate the TF has worked on, and finished work, a particular bug.
16:08:43 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
16:10:31 <janina> Suggestion to create a TF tag to indicate need to revisit
16:11:37 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
16:12:20 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
16:12:48 <janina> Agreement to postpone to next week as it doesn't help us meed this week's deadline.
16:12:56 <janina> agenda?
16:13:05 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
16:13:09 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Remaining Bug Processing" taken up [from Judy]
16:14:19 <janina> Bug Subteam will meet again Friday at 1PM Boston
16:14:49 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13619
16:15:01 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
16:15:22 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
16:16:11 <richardschwerdtfe> q+
16:17:22 <paulc> What is the keyword for HTML.Next?
16:17:33 <MichaelC> ack r
16:18:05 <janina> Janina: Suggest focus only on what needs Friday escalation
16:18:13 <janina> Rich: This affects more than HTML
16:18:23 <janina> Rich: Will work on this in Indie UI
16:18:26 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13512
16:18:50 <janina> Agreement to assign to Web API guide
16:20:04 <janina> Paul: WG isn't getting the notice when this is moved to another WG. People have complained when the editor has done this.
16:20:16 <janina> Paul: Suggests creating a new bug to achieve this, not move an existing bug
16:23:04 <janina> Paul: Same problem if component move, e.g. from LC to API component
16:23:27 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13560
16:25:00 <janina> CS: Issue q: ARIA disallows changing role
16:27:28 <janina> js: Global issue is dynamic changes are a major a11y concern. There's needs to be the appropriate place to manage that globally
16:30:18 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
16:30:18 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:30:20 <Zakim> +Mike
16:31:10 <janina> ms: Confirms that bugs are not dropped, ever.
16:33:02 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13656
16:33:36 <janina> cs: Shouldn't escalate without examples
16:33:46 <MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13560
16:36:48 <janina> JS: Asks level of confidence that Bug Triage can finish Friday?
16:37:08 <janina> mc: 40 bugs needs info, have identified 5 categories
16:37:17 <janina> mc: Expectation to finish re escalation
16:37:23 <richardschwerdtfe> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
16:38:20 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
16:38:38 <janina> mc: Triage will make sure there's a tracker for canvas issues
16:39:02 <janina> cs: Probably need separate canvas trackers, as some of the issues aren't related
16:39:12 <janina> mc: if they're obviously different
16:39:12 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
16:39:26 <janina> rs: 131 anything to do with carat focus ring selection
16:39:36 <janina> rs: text base line we have cp, but no tracker
16:39:58 <janina> rs: need tracker for path to element
16:40:37 <janina> cs: i did them a bit differently ...
16:40:48 <janina> cs: anything to do with text editing in canvas, ie will not support
16:42:00 <janina> rs: nothing to do on subdom because part of spec already
16:42:10 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
16:43:15 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
16:43:23 <janina> rs: think resolving scroll path into view will be sufficient
16:44:55 <MichaelC> Canvas bugs: 9061, 11240, 12306, 12906, 14419
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16:45:30 <David> Cynthia, can you drop those 4 categories into the Chat here?
16:45:56 <paulc_> Current non-processed TrackerRequest's: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML%20WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
16:45:58 <richardschwerdtfe> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13176
16:46:23 <richardschwerdtfe> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13181
16:47:40 <paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0036.html
16:48:19 <richardschwerdtfe> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/FocusRingTextBaseline
16:50:24 <janina> rs: We need issue relating to providing bounds of an element which also allows hit testing
16:50:54 <janina> cs: position and hit testing in the same issue is OK
16:51:11 <janina> cs: want text separated out
16:53:23 <janina> pc: question on ball park estimate of additional requests?
16:53:37 <janina> mc: expects as many as 5 issues
16:54:06 <janina> pc: are you thinking a tracker on a single bug then relate the others?
16:54:10 <janina> mc: would like input on that
16:54:31 <janina> pc: suggest bugs a, b c, d all relate to e, and put tracker on e
16:56:32 <janina> zakim, next item
16:56:32 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Subteam Reports: ARIA Mapping; Text; Media" taken up [from Judy]
16:57:25 <janina> jb: text met tuesday, started planning for when longdesc came up, talked about alt guidance concerns, title and meta generator pending
16:58:37 <janina> jb: also processed 10 text related bugs
16:59:10 <janina> jb: asking when longdesc might come out?
16:59:19 <janina> pc: still processing one of the cp's, so no further data yet
17:00:53 <Zakim> -Mike
17:00:58 <Zakim> -Judy
17:00:59 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
17:00:59 <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
17:00:59 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
17:01:00 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
17:01:01 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
17:01:02 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
17:01:03 <Zakim> -Rich
17:01:04 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended
17:01:07 <Zakim> Attendees were John_Foliot, Judy, Michael_Cooper, paulc, Cynthia_Shelly, Janina_Sajka, Rich, David_MacDonald, Mike
17:06:00 <janina> zakim, bye
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