ISSUE-4: What is the default for DNT in client configuration (opt-in or opt-out)?

What is the default for DNT in client configuration (opt-in or opt-out)?

State:
CLOSED
Product:
Tracking Preference Expression (DNT)
Raised by:
Opened on:
2011-09-21
Description:
Current implementations of DNT configuration in browsers start with a default configuration of unset, meaning that the user can "opt-out" of tracking by explicitly changing the configuration. If the default is changed to set DNT, then the user's explicit configuration would be an "opt-in". This issue impacts how the feature is documented, how to communicate the setting to users, and whether recipients would consider the field to be a true indication of user choice.
Related Actions Items:
Related emails:
  1. Re: tracking-ISSUE-277: default to DNT:1? [TCS Last Call] (from npdoty@w3.org on 2015-11-06)
  2. Re: issue-205 (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2013-07-01)
  3. Re: June Draft of the DNT compliance spec (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2013-06-18)
  4. Re: Mapping the "framework" to ISSUEs (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2013-05-07)
  5. Mapping the "framework" to ISSUEs (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2013-05-07)
  6. Re: F2F: Open Issues for the TPE Discussion on Tuesday (from mts-std@schunter.org on 2013-05-06)
  7. Re: F2F: Open Issues for the TPE Discussion on Tuesday (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2013-05-05)
  8. Re: ACTION-390: alternative UA affordances for DNT choice (from rigo@w3.org on 2013-04-26)
  9. Re: ACTION-390: alternative UA affordances for DNT choice (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2013-04-25)
  10. Re: ISSUE Cleanup: Please reconfirm your support of Raised ISSUES (by Jan 30) (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2013-01-24)
  11. Re: ACTION-212: Draft text on how user agents must obtain consent to turn on a DNT signal (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2012-11-13)
  12. RE: ACTION-212: Draft text on how user agents must obtain consent to turn on a DNT signal (from mike@iab.net on 2012-11-13)
  13. FW: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents (from michael.oneill@baycloud.com on 2012-10-11)
  14. Re: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2012-10-11)
  15. Re: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents (from david@networkadvertising.org on 2012-10-11)
  16. Re: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2012-10-11)
  17. Re: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents (from mike@iab.net on 2012-10-10)
  18. Re: Intermediaries interfering with DNT decision making (from James.Grimmelmann@nyls.edu on 2012-09-12)
  19. Re: Intermediaries interfering with DNT decision making (from rob@blaeu.com on 2012-09-12)
  20. Re: Intermediaries interfering with DNT decision making (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-09-12)
  21. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from joehall@gmail.com on 2012-07-27)
  22. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from singer@apple.com on 2012-07-27)
  23. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-27)
  24. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from CPedigo@online-publishers.org on 2012-07-27)
  25. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-27)
  26. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from James.Grimmelmann@nyls.edu on 2012-07-27)
  27. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-07-27)
  28. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from david@networkadvertising.org on 2012-07-27)
  29. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from david@networkadvertising.org on 2012-07-27)
  30. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-27)
  31. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-07-27)
  32. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from James.Grimmelmann@nyls.edu on 2012-07-27)
  33. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-07-27)
  34. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-27)
  35. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-07-27)
  36. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from singer@apple.com on 2012-07-27)
  37. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-07-27)
  38. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from Brooks.Dobbs@kbmg.com on 2012-07-27)
  39. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-27)
  40. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from James.Grimmelmann@nyls.edu on 2012-07-27)
  41. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-07-26)
  42. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from singer@apple.com on 2012-07-26)
  43. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-26)
  44. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2012-07-26)
  45. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from mike@iab.net on 2012-07-26)
  46. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2012-07-26)
  47. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-26)
  48. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from mike@iab.net on 2012-07-26)
  49. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-07-07)
  50. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from mts-std@schunter.org on 2012-07-07)
  51. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from singer@apple.com on 2012-06-21)
  52. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-06-21)
  53. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from singer@apple.com on 2012-06-21)
  54. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-06-21)
  55. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rigo@w3.org on 2012-06-21)
  56. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rigo@w3.org on 2012-06-21)
  57. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rob@blaeu.com on 2012-06-20)
  58. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-06-20)
  59. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-06-20)
  60. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults, and a plea to 'stay the course' (from tisrael@cippic.ca on 2012-06-20)
  61. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rob@blaeu.com on 2012-06-20)
  62. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-20)
  63. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rob@blaeu.com on 2012-06-20)
  64. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from kevin.kiley@3pmobile.com on 2012-06-20)
  65. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from peter.cranstone@gmail.com on 2012-06-19)
  66. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from james.brentano@bluecava.com on 2012-06-19)
  67. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from singer@apple.com on 2012-06-19)
  68. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from kevin.kiley@3pmobile.com on 2012-06-19)
  69. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from singer@apple.com on 2012-06-19)
  70. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from tien@eff.org on 2012-06-19)
  71. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from mts-std@schunter.org on 2012-06-17)
  72. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults, and a plea to 'stay the course' (from mts-std@schunter.org on 2012-06-17)
  73. Re: Today's call: summary on user agent compliance (from kevin.kiley@3pmobile.com on 2012-06-14)
  74. Re: Today's call: summary on user agent compliance (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-14)
  75. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from peter.cranstone@3pmobile.com on 2012-06-05)
  76. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from derhoermi@gmx.net on 2012-06-05)
  77. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from derhoermi@gmx.net on 2012-06-05)
  78. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-04)
  79. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-04)
  80. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rigo@w3.org on 2012-06-04)
  81. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults, and a plea to 'stay the course' (from singer@apple.com on 2012-06-04)
  82. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-04)
  83. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rigo@w3.org on 2012-06-04)
  84. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-04)
  85. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-06-03)
  86. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2012-06-03)
  87. RE: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-06-03)
  88. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from vp@iabeurope.eu on 2012-06-03)
  89. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from rigo@w3.org on 2012-06-03)
  90. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2012-06-03)
  91. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-02)
  92. Re: ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from jbrookman@cdt.org on 2012-06-02)
  93. ISSUE-4 and clarity regarding browser defaults (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-06-02)
  94. RE: DAA Statement on DNT ('Broswer [sic] Based Choice Mechanism') (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-02-23)
  95. Re: DAA Statement on DNT ('Broswer [sic] Based Choice Mechanism') (from ggieron@adtruth.com on 2012-02-23)
  96. Re: DAA Statement on DNT ('Broswer [sic] Based Choice Mechanism') (from ggieron@adtruth.com on 2012-02-23)
  97. Re: DAA Statement on DNT ('Broswer [sic] Based Choice Mechanism') (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2012-02-23)
  98. Re: DAA Statement on DNT ('Broswer [sic] Based Choice Mechanism') (from jeff@democraticmedia.org on 2012-02-23)
  99. DAA Statement on DNT ('Broswer [sic] Based Choice Mechanism') (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2012-02-23)
  100. RE: Deciding Exceptions (ISSUE-23, ISSUE-24, ISSUE-25, ISSUE-31, ISSUE-34, ISSUE-49) (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2012-02-10)
  101. RE: Deciding Exceptions (ISSUE-23, ISSUE-24, ISSUE-25, ISSUE-31, ISSUE-34, ISSUE-49) (from kevsmith@adobe.com on 2012-02-09)
  102. Defaults by User Agents and Intermediaries (ISSUE-4, ISSUE-95) (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2012-01-26)
  103. RE: Request for thoughts: US, EU, and international DNT (from acolando@microsoft.com on 2012-01-12)
  104. diff of TPE editing since the FPWD (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2012-01-10)
  105. Re: Move to close ISSUE-4 (from rob@blaeu.com on 2011-12-27)
  106. Re: Move to close ISSUE-4 (from sid@mozilla.com on 2011-12-20)
  107. Re: Move to close ISSUE-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-12-20)
  108. Proposed Agenda for 2011-12-21 TPWG call (from mts@zurich.ibm.com on 2011-12-20)
  109. Move to close ISSUE-4 (from mts@zurich.ibm.com on 2011-12-20)
  110. RE: Proposed Agenda for 2011-11-30 TPWG call (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  111. RE: Proposed Agenda for 2011-11-30 TPWG call (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-11-30)
  112. Proposed Agenda for 2011-11-30 TPWG call (from mts@zurich.ibm.com on 2011-11-30)
  113. Re: Issue-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-11-10)
  114. Re: Issue-4 (from ronansan@gmail.com on 2011-11-09)
  115. Re: Issue-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-11-09)
  116. Re: Issue-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-11-09)
  117. Re: Agenda for 2011-11-09 TPWG call (from singer@apple.com on 2011-11-09)
  118. Re: Issue-4 (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-11-08)
  119. Re: Issue-4 (from karld@opera.com on 2011-11-08)
  120. Re: Issue-4 (from carmen@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-11-08)
  121. Agenda for 2011-11-09 TPWG call (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-11-08)
  122. Re: Issue-4 (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-11-08)
  123. Re: Issue-4 (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-11-07)
  124. Re: Issue-4 (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-11-07)
  125. Re: TPE Document S3 (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2011-10-31)
  126. Re: Issue-4 (from tom@mozilla.com on 2011-10-31)
  127. Re: Issue-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-10-28)
  128. Re: Issue-4 (from karld@opera.com on 2011-10-28)
  129. Re: Issue-4 (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2011-10-28)
  130. Re: Issue-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-10-28)
  131. Re: Issue-4 (from rigo@w3.org on 2011-10-28)
  132. Re: Issue-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-10-27)
  133. Re: Issue-4 (from singer@apple.com on 2011-10-27)
  134. Re: Issue-4 (from fielding@gbiv.com on 2011-10-27)
  135. Re: Issue-4 (from tom@mozilla.com on 2011-10-27)
  136. Re: Issue-4 (from sharvey@google.com on 2011-10-27)
  137. Re: Issue-4 (from rigo@w3.org on 2011-10-26)
  138. Re: Issue-4 (from john@consumerwatchdog.org on 2011-10-26)
  139. Re: Issue-4 (from jmayer@stanford.edu on 2011-10-26)
  140. Issue-4 (from aleecia@aleecia.com on 2011-10-26)
  141. RE: DISCUSSION: Selective Opt-in (chapter 5 of editors draft) [ISSUE-42, ISSUE-27, ISSUE-46] (from brett@adobe.com on 2011-10-16)
  142. RE: DISCUSSION: Selective Opt-in (chapter 5 of editors draft) [ISSUE-42, ISSUE-27, ISSUE-46] (from wileys@yahoo-inc.com on 2011-10-15)
  143. ISSUE-4: What is the default? Is this an opt-in or an opt-out? (from sysbot+tracker@w3.org on 2011-09-21)

Related notes:

Raised by Ian Fette during the first F2F. I changed the title to clarify that this issue is about the client configuration, since I believe Ian's concern reflects the Chrome browser implementation.

Roy Fielding, 29 Sep 2011, 22:50:13

An alternative discussed during the F2F was that a DNT preference is only communicated once the end-user has made a choice to express this preference.

Matthias Schunter, 10 Oct 2011, 11:56:57

This includes ISSUE-2

Matthias Schunter, 26 Oct 2011, 15:31:28

Resolved by consensus on Oct 26 call. Out of scope: user presentation issue.

Thomas Lowenthal, 26 Oct 2011, 16:39:25

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