PIL OWL Ontology Meeting 2012-06-18

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Meeting Information

prov-wg - Modeling Task Force - OWL group telecon


  • Tim
  • Daniel
  • Satya
  • Jun
  • Stian


  • Stephan
  • Khalid


For the issues that you are assigned:

  • describe the original concern
  • describe any perspectives already expressed
  • recommend next step, or propose a solution




  • Khalid mocked up what a highlight would look like. (with strong HTML elements)


  • TODO: read through the collection parts and raise any concerns, if any
    • I am happy with the rewording
    • I suggested on the list to close my issue 391
  • Review Dani's action points re. issue 381
    • Finally done. Email sent out this afternoon BST


  • http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/406 
    • Delegation wrong direction.
    • Stian: confused his colleague. Opposite direction.
    • ... with name change, it is now confusing.
    • ... hadDelegate to be the primary, but that doens't follow the back in time rule.
    • Stian: proposal is to rename.


Actual modeling
Awaiting DM

DM is in review; no more waiting :-)

  • prov:qualifiedForm - comment does not reflect "pointing at both" - Stephan.
    • prov:qualifiedFrom should change 'prov:Involved subclass' -> 'prov:Involvement subclass'
    • This is an issue with prov:wasTracedTo and all its sub-properties.
  • prov:category, prov:component ... no links. TODO: use URI instead of the literal strings.
  • Stian: list both the justices and KeyValue;Tim: done: make a new instance of collection (generic).
  • Dani: spacing problems
    • TODO: Tim to respond to Dani to email with list of "outdated" prov-o html aspects.
Someone please take
  • http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/349 [good] turtle examples in cross ref
    • This is an ongoing activity. Anyone up for reviewing and enhancing the examples?
    • Stian: html and owl are alternatives. HTML comes from owl.
    • .. not everytihng in the owl is reflected in the HTML or opposite
    • ... views them as alternateOf
    • Jun: can we say the owl is for machines?:) html is for human.
    • Stephan: two representations of the same resource, the resource is the rec.
    • Khalid: use it in the eg of alternateOf.
    • Tim: are we okay that the HTML doesn't reflect "every triple" in OWL.
    • Group: yes. that's silly.
Fading usefulness


  • http://www.w3.org/2011/prov/track/issues/381 Jun's feedback on 3.2 expanded terms
    • Daniel: haven't gotten to it. Will do by Thursday. Tomorrow morning.
    • ... removed the Note, added missing Location etc. All there now.
    • TODO: SoftwareAgent is missing in examples.
    • done: Tim to regenerate prov-o on aquarius. TODO: Dani check that it's "right".
    • Daniel: Done, I will answer to Jun's answer to my answer.

  • Daniel: will try to read Paolo's new Collections.



How would you encode http://aquarius.tw.rpi.edu/prov-wg/prov-o#acknowledgements in prov-o?