ISSUE-206: agents should not be inferred, and wasAssociatedWith should also work with entities

agent-asserted-not-inferred

agents should not be inferred, and wasAssociatedWith should also work with entities

State:
CLOSED
Product:
prov-dm
Raised by:
Luc Moreau
Opened on:
2011-12-21
Description:
Inference
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#association-agent
originates back from an agreement at F2F1, where we said that agents can be inferred from wasControlledBy.

The inference was kept, and wasControlledBy replaced by wasAssociatedWith.

However, I think this has undesirable consequences. For instance, in the example that follows constraint
http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/prov/raw-file/default/model/ProvenanceModel.html#wasStartedBy,
we see that an entity (a request to create an activity) is inferred to become
an agent because of the above inferences.

There are many notions of agents out there, and we should go for minimum semantic commitment in prov-dm to facilitate adoption. Inferring agent is likely to be suspicious in some communities.

Hence, proposal 1: remove inference association-agent from the document.

Furthermore, for the example above to type correctly,

proposal 2: allow wasAssociatedWith to relate an activity and an entity

proposal 3: allow two forms for wasAssociatedWith:
wasAssociatedWith(activity, agent, plan, attributes)
and
wasAssociatedWith(activity, entity, attributes)


Cheers,
Luc
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  1. Re: PROV-ISSUE-206 (agent-asserted-not-inferred): agents should not be inferred, and wasAssociatedWith should also work with entities [prov-dm] (from L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk on 2012-04-17)
  2. Re: PROV-ISSUE-206 (agent-asserted-not-inferred): agents should not be inferred, and wasAssociatedWith should also work with entities [prov-dm] (from L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk on 2012-03-23)
  3. Re: PROPOSALS TO VOTE ON (deadline: Wednesday 14th, midnight GMT) (from graham.klyne@zoo.ox.ac.uk on 2012-03-14)
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  7. PROPOSALS TO VOTE ON (deadline: Wednesday 14th, midnight GMT) (from L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk on 2012-03-09)
  8. Re: PROV ISSUE-206 some possible proposals (from soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk on 2012-02-07)
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  10. Re: PROV ISSUE-206 some possible proposals (from lebot@rpi.edu on 2012-02-07)
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  12. Re: PROV ISSUE-206 some possible proposals (from lebot@rpi.edu on 2012-02-06)
  13. Re: PROV ISSUE-206 some possible proposals (from lebot@rpi.edu on 2012-02-06)
  14. PROV ISSUE-206 some possible proposals (from p.t.groth@vu.nl on 2012-02-03)
  15. Re: PROV-ISSUE-206: three proposals to vote on (deadline Jan 15th midnight GMT) (from soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk on 2012-01-19)
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  23. Re: PROV-ISSUE-206: three proposals to vote on (deadline Jan 15th midnight GMT) (from soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk on 2012-01-12)
  24. Re: PROV-ISSUE-206: three proposals to vote on (deadline Jan 15th midnight GMT) (from soiland-reyes@cs.manchester.ac.uk on 2012-01-12)
  25. PROV-ISSUE-206: three proposals to vote on (deadline Jan 15th midnight GMT) (from L.Moreau@ecs.soton.ac.uk on 2012-01-11)
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