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14:46:23 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #gld 14:46:23 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-gld-irc 14:46:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world 14:46:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD 14:46:27 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes 14:46:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference 14:46:28 <trackbot> Date: 07 March 2013 14:46:59 <sandro> HadleyBeeman, Hi. :-) Meanwhile, sorry but I'l need to join about 10-15 minutes late today. 14:47:17 <HadleyBeeman> No worries. Thanks for letting us know! 14:50:16 <MariosMeimaris> MariosMeimaris has joined #gld 14:51:36 <bhyland> @Hadley, OK, I've updated the agenda 14:51:54 <HadleyBeeman> Looks good, bhyland. Thanks for that! 14:57:01 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started 14:57:08 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aaaa 14:57:13 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is me 14:57:13 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it 14:57:22 <DaveReynolds> DaveReynolds has joined #gld 14:59:01 <atemezin> atemezin has joined #gld 14:59:35 <HadleyBeeman> topic: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130307 15:00:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller] 15:00:48 <Zakim> + +1.540.898.aabb 15:00:54 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is me 15:00:54 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it 15:01:26 <BenediktKaempgen> BenediktKaempgen has joined #gld 15:01:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a] 15:01:46 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me 15:01:46 <Zakim> +MariosMeimaris; got it 15:01:55 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aacc 15:02:17 <Zakim> + +3539149aadd 15:02:30 <fadmaa> fadmaa has joined #gld 15:02:44 <danbri_> danbri_ has joined #gld 15:02:46 <Zakim> +??P19 15:02:50 <fadmaa> Zakim, who is here? 15:02:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, MariosMeimaris, bhyland, DaveReynolds, +33.4.93.00.aacc, +3539149aadd, ??P19 15:02:51 <cygri> cygri has joined #gld 15:02:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see danbri_, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, atemezin, DaveReynolds, MariosMeimaris, RRSAgent, sandro, TallTed, Zakim, bhyland, HadleyBeeman, danbri, trackbot 15:03:03 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, P19 is me 15:03:03 <Zakim> sorry, BenediktKaempgen, I do not recognize a party named 'P19' 15:03:07 <fadmaa> Zakim, aadd is me 15:03:07 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it 15:03:11 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me 15:03:11 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted 15:03:13 <Zakim> +cygri 15:03:20 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P19 is me 15:03:20 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it 15:03:35 <Zakim> + +184.108.40.206.aaee 15:04:41 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software 15:04:45 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Gov't Linked Data WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- current agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130307 15:04:56 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me 15:04:56 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it 15:05:21 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me 15:05:21 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted 15:05:23 <Biplav> Biplav has joined #gld 15:05:35 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me 15:05:36 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted 15:05:44 <fadmaa> scribe: fadmaa 15:05:45 <HadleyBeeman> zakim,aaee is biplav 15:05:45 <Zakim> +biplav; got it 15:05:52 <MakxDekkers> MakxDekkers has joined #gld 15:06:23 <fadmaa> TOPIC: New people introduction 15:06:58 <bhyland> Marios Meimaris speaking now 15:07:18 <bhyland> Mario: taking over from Agis, discussing Greek Open Data efforts 15:07:31 <fadmaa> MariosMeimaris: from Greece working on open data and public services 15:07:38 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-02-28 15:07:48 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: accept last week minutes 15:07:49 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 minutes 15:07:50 <DaveReynolds> +1 to accept minutes 15:07:51 <fadmaa> +1 15:07:53 <TallTed> +1 15:07:55 <atemezin> +1 15:07:55 <bhyland> +1 15:08:23 <fadmaa> HadleyBeeman: DCAT status 15:08:29 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me 15:08:29 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted 15:08:47 <cygri> q+ 15:09:11 <Biplav> +1 15:09:25 <fadmaa> fadmaa: need to pospone this till next week as we have an extra telco on DCAT tomorrow 15:09:33 <Makx> Makx has joined #gld 15:09:48 <fadmaa> cygri: people who have input regarding DCAT can join tomorrow 15:10:04 <fadmaa> cygri: or they can provide input via email 15:10:37 <DaveReynolds> For the record, I've no objection to DCAT going to LC so long as the people on the call tomorrow is satisfied. 15:10:47 <DaveReynolds> s/is /are / 15:11:33 <HadleyBeeman> Proposal: A Working Group's Last Call announcement is a signal that: 15:11:33 <HadleyBeeman> • the Working Group believes that it has satisfied its relevant technical requirements (e.g., of the charter or requirements document) in the Working Draft; 15:11:33 <HadleyBeeman> • the Working Group believes that it has satisfied significant dependencies with other groups; 15:11:33 <HadleyBeeman> • other groups SHOULD review the document to confirm that these dependencies have been satisfied. 15:11:34 <fadmaa> cygri: if we get no objection regarding proceeding with DCAT to the last call during tomorrow meeting we can proceed 15:11:34 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#last-call 15:12:27 <Zakim> + +25438091aaff 15:12:33 <bhyland> +1 to cygri's proposal 15:12:44 <Makx> zakim, aaff is me 15:12:44 <Zakim> +Makx; got it 15:12:45 <Zakim> +Sandro 15:12:50 <HadleyBeeman> Proposed: If the breakout group tomorrow does not identify any reasons for DCAT not to go to last call, then the group will request its transition to last call 15:12:53 <bhyland> +1 15:12:55 <fadmaa> cygri: we can put the proposal forward that if the break-out call tomorrow don't identify any concerns that prevent proceeding DCAT to the last call, we might proceed with that 15:13:12 <TallTed> PROPOSED: WG will accept sub-group's decision regarding request for DCAT transition (or not) to LC 15:13:21 <bhyland> +q 15:13:23 <DaveReynolds> +1 15:13:32 <fadmaa> +1 15:13:34 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 15:13:36 <Makx> +1 15:13:37 <bhyland> +1 15:13:38 <TallTed> +1 15:13:38 <cygri> +1 15:13:41 <bhyland> ack bhyland 15:13:45 <HadleyBeeman> +1 15:13:57 <bhyland> q+ 15:14:18 <DaveReynolds> q+ 15:14:18 <fadmaa> sandro: we still need to get a formal approval from the group 15:14:51 <sandro> s/still/might still/ 15:14:55 <bhyland> q? 15:14:59 <bhyland> ack bhyland 15:15:00 <fadmaa> sandro: given the time constraints we can try proceeding as proposed 15:15:05 <cygri> ack me 15:15:08 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me 15:15:08 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted 15:15:22 <fadmaa> bhyland: let's handle it by email as well 15:15:43 <DaveReynolds> PROPOSED: WB agrees that DCAT should transition to LC, subject to confirmation by subgroup meeting tomorrow 15:15:54 <bhyland> +1 15:15:56 <TallTed> +1 15:16:07 <DaveReynolds> +1 15:16:09 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 15:16:09 <cygri> +1 15:16:10 <HadleyBeeman> +1 15:16:12 <sandro> +1 15:16:13 <Makx> +1 15:16:16 <atemezin> +1 15:16:22 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: regarding Sandro's concern we can vote now that we agree in principle that the DCAT break out telco tomorrow make the decision re. procedding to last call 15:16:24 <Zakim> -atemezin 15:16:29 <fadmaa> +1 15:16:29 <Biplav> +1 15:16:38 <fadmaa> s/procedding/proceeding/ 15:16:54 <sandro> RESOLVED: WB agrees that DCAT should transition to LC, subject to confirmation by subgroup meeting tomorrow 15:17:02 <sandro> s/WB/WG/ 15:17:08 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Data Cube status 15:17:11 <Zakim> +atemezin 15:17:22 <DaveReynolds> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Mar/0041.html 15:18:17 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I published the draft as I have it last Tuesday 15:18:35 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: issue 29 is a key one 15:19:43 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: proposed to move issue 29 to pending review as we need to keep an eye on it during last call 15:20:21 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: issue 30 Recommend moving to POSTPONED 15:20:52 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: issue 32 should remain open but doesn't affect the spec 15:21:36 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds went through the issues as described at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Mar/0041.html 15:22:39 <fadmaa> cygri: agree that ISSUE-37 Align Data Cube with SDMX 2.1 be postponed 15:23:10 <fadmaa> cygri: Data Cube will be aligned with SDMX 2.0 and not the latest version SDMX 2.1 15:25:04 <fadmaa> cygri: I have few minor editorial comments mainly regarding the outline, but these are minor and can be quickly addressed 15:26:04 <fadmaa> cygri: well-formedness criteria haven't maybe received enough interest... same for normalization algorithm in section 12 15:26:21 <fadmaa> cygri: just wanted to highlight the risk there 15:26:28 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I agree with that 15:27:30 <BenediktKaempgen> +q 15:27:36 <DaveReynolds> q- 15:28:30 <fadmaa> sandro: would the document stand Ok with these sections removed? 15:28:53 <fadmaa> cygri: yes for section 13 15:29:39 <fadmaa> cygri: particularly 12.1 is at risk 15:30:06 <fadmaa> cygri: I think with 12.1 removed the rest of the section will still make sense 15:31:37 <BenediktKaempgen> -q 15:31:39 <Zakim> -atemezin 15:32:43 <Zakim> +??P35 15:33:04 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I looked at the specification and it looks very good to me 15:33:10 <cygri> DaveReynolds: Section 13 is written as independent parts, so if we find problems, we could remove only affected subsections 15:33:15 <cygri> cygri: ok, that's great 15:33:18 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: I have few minor comments which I will send via email 15:33:38 <cygri> q+ 15:34:06 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: based on quick review of section 13 I didn't find any logical mistake and I think the approach is very good 15:34:09 <cygri> q- 15:34:28 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: I suggest moving Data Cube to last call subject to editorial changes 15:35:20 <fadmaa> cygri: my comments are mainly related to renaming some titles in teh table of contents and reordering some sections 15:35:55 <fadmaa> cygri: and some otehr minor changes that will not effectively change the spec 15:36:03 <fadmaa> s/otehr/other/ 15:36:22 <DaveReynolds> PROPOSED: Move Data Cube draft to LC subject to editorial changes proposed by Richard and Benedikt 15:36:27 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 15:36:30 <HadleyBeeman> +1 15:36:31 <cygri> +1 15:36:32 <DaveReynolds> +1 15:36:37 <Makx> +1 15:36:39 <Biplav> +1 15:36:45 <atemezin> +1 15:37:01 <fadmaa> +1 15:37:06 <bhyland> +1 15:37:06 <TallTed> +1 15:37:14 <sandro> +1 15:37:15 <DaveReynolds> RESOLVED: Move Data Cube draft to LC subject to editorial changes proposed by Richard and Benedikt 15:37:38 <bhyland> @DaveReynolds - confirmed. 15:38:00 <bhyland> Action: Bhyland to email w3c re: moving DataCube to LC 15:38:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-102 - Email w3c re: moving DataCube to LC [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2013-03-14]. 15:39:34 <fadmaa> cygri: I will do the review of the content by Monday 15:39:52 <fadmaa> sandro: I can help with that if needed 15:40:21 <fadmaa> sandro: contact the web master informing him that you have a specification to publish 15:40:45 <bhyland> Hadley: Do we need to contact other co-chairs? 15:41:13 <bhyland> Sandro: Send email to chairs @ W3 to notify them. 15:41:24 <DaveReynolds> PROPOSED: accept updates to ACTION and ISSUE status for Data Cube as summarized in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Mar/0041.html 15:41:36 <HadleyBeeman> +1 15:41:38 <DaveReynolds> +1 15:41:39 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 15:41:43 <sandro> +1 15:41:44 <cygri> +1 15:41:49 <Biplav> +1 15:41:57 <DaveReynolds> RESOLVED: accept updates to ACTION and ISSUE status for Data Cube as summarized in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Mar/0041.html 15:42:00 <atemezin> +1 15:42:18 <fadmaa> TOPIC: Linked Data Glossary 15:42:30 <bhyland> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/glossary/index.html 15:43:46 <fadmaa> bhyland: we got 112 terms in the glossary 15:44:06 <fadmaa> bhyland: we still need to add links and references 15:44:34 <fadmaa> bhyland: need volunteer to help with this 15:44:49 <bhyland> q? 15:45:25 <fadmaa> bhyland: preferably links to existing W3C related publications 15:46:44 <fadmaa> atemezin: I can do it 15:47:11 <fadmaa> ACTION: atemezin to add links and cross-references to the Linked Data glossary 15:47:11 <trackbot> Error finding 'atemezin'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>. 15:47:30 <bhyland> Looking to move something to working note, I saw this http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr#transition-reqs but doesn't really answer my question 15:47:59 <fadmaa> ACTION: gatemezin to add links and cross-references to the Linked Data glossary 15:47:59 <trackbot> Error finding 'gatemezin'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>. 15:48:14 <fadmaa> ACTION: gatemezi to add links and cross-references to the Linked Data glossary 15:48:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-103 - Add links and cross-references to the Linked Data glossary [on Ghislain Auguste Atemezing - due 2013-03-14]. 15:48:31 <bhyland> Sandro: Email to TLR with some CC's, proposing glossary be called ld-glossary 15:48:38 <fadmaa> bhyland: ld-glossary as a short name for the glossary? 15:49:30 <bhyland> Question, Who has read the LD glossary? 15:49:33 <cygri> i've read some of it. 15:49:36 <Biplav> I have read 15:49:54 <HadleyBeeman> i've read most of it 15:50:08 <fadmaa> bhyland: I will send an email asking people to look at the glossary 15:50:20 <fadmaa> bhyland: so that we can vote on it next meeting 15:50:53 <bhyland> Agreed, By next week Ghislain will add references by next week. Bhyland will kick off thread reminding everyone in WG to read it before next Thursday so we can move to publish as a WG Note 15:51:14 <fadmaa> TOPIC: community directory 15:51:17 <atemezin> s/Ghislain/atemezin 15:52:34 <fadmaa> bhyland: we had a proposal to be populating the community directory based on Linked Data that people publish on their websites 15:52:41 <bhyland> We're aiming to automate & make the Comm Directory more useful, se http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/File:W3C_Community_Directory_Workflow-proposed_20130306.pdf%E2%80%8E 15:54:19 <fadmaa> bhyland: the idea is that people should provide few information, based on that we email RDF data to the publisher with instructions on how/where to publish it 15:54:52 <fadmaa> bhyland: this allows the directory of linked data community to have linked data itself 15:55:16 <fadmaa> bhyland: similar to the way Manning added linked data about the linked data book 15:56:13 <DaveReynolds> q+ 15:56:39 <sandro> q+ to ask about dir future 15:56:43 <DaveReynolds> ack me 15:57:20 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: will the data already there be kept? 15:57:35 <fadmaa> bhyland: yes hopefully. we are working on it 15:57:58 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Would people be required to hold their own ttl file? 15:58:01 <sandro> +1 15:58:17 <sandro> +1 DaveReynolds lots of people in the public sector have no way to host data files. 15:58:30 <fadmaa> DaveReynolds: based on my experience you might need to host the data for people who can't host it themselves 15:59:11 <fadmaa> bhyland: I agree 15:59:16 <HadleyBeeman> ack sandro 15:59:16 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to ask about dir future 15:59:28 <fadmaa> sandro: what will happen to the directory after the WG ends? 16:00:23 <TallTed> TallTed has joined #gld 16:00:51 <fadmaa> sandro: W3C community group might be formed to take care of it or it can be managed by 3stones 16:00:57 <sandro> sandro: how about someone propose a Community Group to do this and see if it gets enough members? 16:01:33 <atemezin> @sandro: how enough should be to start such a CG? 16:02:25 <Zakim> -TallTed 16:02:28 <BenediktKaempgen> bye, thanks 16:02:28 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman 16:02:28 <Zakim> -cygri 16:02:29 <Zakim> -??P35 16:02:30 <Zakim> -Makx 16:02:30 <Zakim> -Sandro 16:02:33 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen 16:02:36 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds 16:02:36 <bhyland> Thanks again DaveReynolds & cygri, great work & much appreciated. 16:02:38 <Zakim> -fadmaa 16:02:42 <Zakim> -bhyland 16:02:46 <Zakim> -MariosMeimaris 16:02:48 <Zakim> -biplav 16:02:48 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended 16:02:49 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.440.389.aaaa, HadleyBeeman, +1.540.898.aabb, bhyland, DaveReynolds, MariosMeimaris, +3539149aadd, fadmaa, cygri, BenediktKaempgen, atemezin, +220.127.116.11.aaee, 16:02:49 <Zakim> ... TallTed, biplav, +25438091aaff, Makx, Sandro 16:02:50 <sandro> yes, HadleyBeeman 16:03:00 <DaveReynolds> DaveReynolds has left #gld 16:03:16 <sandro> atemezin, a total of five people are needed for a CG to be formed. See http://www.w3.org/community/about/#cg 16:03:36 <sandro> (hopefully they'd be five people willing to do some work.) 16:03:37 <HadleyBeeman> Sorry, sandro - I shouldn't have hung up. Just wanted to ask you about the timetable wiki page I was building…. you had feedback? 16:03:44 <fadmaa> rrsagent, generate minutes 16:03:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-gld-minutes.html fadmaa 16:04:09 <bhyland> Thanks Fadi for scribing … that was a lot to keep up with@@ 16:04:15 <bhyland> s/@@/!! 16:04:17 <HadleyBeeman> Yes, thanks fadmaa! # SPECIAL MARKER FOR CHATSYNC. DO NOT EDIT THIS LINE OR BELOW. SRCLINESUSED=00000275