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14:01:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
14:01:39 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
14:01:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:01:40 <trackbot> Date: 20 September 2012
14:01:40 <PhilA2> PhilA2 has joined #gld
14:01:50 <George> zakim, who is on the call?
14:01:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, gatemezi, DeirdreLee
14:02:21 <Zakim> +??P28
14:02:27 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P28 is me
14:02:27 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
14:04:04 <bhyland> Health Mart '12 Datapalooza happeing Oct 2-3 in Massachussetts, see http://www.mahealthdata.org/HealthMart/Agenda
14:04:45 <atemezi> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120920
14:04:59 <atemezi> Chair: George
14:05:36 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
14:05:37 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me
14:05:37 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
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14:06:50 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:07:03 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
14:07:03 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
14:07:20 <atemezi> Scribe: gatemezi
14:07:29 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
14:07:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, bhyland, gatemezi, DeirdreLee, PhilA2, cygri, tinagheen
14:07:48 <atemezi> Topic: Last week meeting approval
14:07:52 <bhyland> See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-09-13
14:08:37 <bhyland> +1
14:08:41 <atemezi> +1
14:08:42 <PhilA2> I admit I  have not resolved my action items - I hope to do so before next week
14:08:46 <DeirdreLee> +1
14:08:47 <PhilA2> +1 on minutes
14:09:30 <atemezi> Topic: Deliverables
14:09:59 <atemezi> bhyland: what the status of the vocabs? what feedback?
14:10:47 <Zakim> +??P36
14:10:55 <olyerickson> zakim, ??P36 is me.
14:10:55 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
14:11:00 <olyerickson> mute me.
14:11:11 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me. 
14:11:11 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
14:11:12 <atemezi> George had a meeting with some editors to schedule what next with Dave and Richard. 
14:11:15 <PhilA2> q+ to talk about data Cube vocab
14:11:38 <atemezi> ...regarding data cube vocab
14:11:56 <bhyland> Topic:  Getting feedback folded into Data Cube Vocab - 
14:12:15 <bhyland> input from cygri & Benedikt … 
14:12:31 <atemezi> cygri: They have to make a new Working draft due for november, before last call at the beginning of 2013
14:12:41 <bhyland> s/Benedikt/Dave Reynolds
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14:13:25 <bhyland> cygri: The main editors of the Cube Vocab are Cygri & Dave Reynolds
14:13:35 <PhilA2> Eurostat http://eurostat.linked-statistics.org/
14:13:38 <bhyland> … Benedikt is helping with Use Cases
14:14:14 <atemezi> philA2: Eurostat has published a dataset using DQ
14:14:28 <bhyland> PhilA2: The Data Cube Vocab is being used in millions of RDF statements about EU statistics
14:15:03 <bhyland> "The Eurostat data made available here covers a http://eurostat.linked-statistics.org/#dataspace-origin from economy over demographics to trade and transport data. You can use the data, for example, to learn about national statistics, explore an industrial area or compare agricultural data across regions. In the following we show you some exemplary (cross-dataset) SPARQL queries kindly provided by http://www.linkedin.com/in/sorenroug from the European Environmen
14:15:09 <bhyland> Nice!
14:15:31 <luisBermudez> luisBermudez has joined #gld
14:15:40 <cygri> q+
14:15:48 <bhyland> … Paul van Hermans is Brussels-based consultant who set this up.
14:15:57 <atemezi> Great news indeed..
14:16:08 <PhilA2> q-
14:16:31 <Zakim> +LuisBermudez
14:16:47 <George> George has joined #gld
14:16:53 <atemezi> cygri: for the Eurostat dataset, they have also contributed as well, cygri and Benedikt
14:17:10 <atemezi> ..DERI, mhausenblas,
14:18:15 <bhyland> @cygri - what are the main things you and Dave want to get done on the Data Cube vocab by November?
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14:18:34 <George> ?
14:18:35 <bhyland> q+
14:18:42 <George> ack cygri 
14:19:14 <atemezi> cygri: Eurostat dataset is a great data..but still need to work on how to find stuff inside
14:19:16 <George> ack bhyland 
14:19:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:19:47 <Yigal> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:19:47 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it
14:19:57 <PhilA2> This is the tweet I saw from Paul Van Hermans https://twitter.com/PaulZH/status/245598405462745088
14:21:07 <atemezi> bhyland: what are the issues to address in DQ for november?
14:21:33 <bhyland> Cygri: There are some issues from practical use of Data Cube Vocab.  SGMX has some impact that we want to check & verify
14:22:58 <PhilA2> q+
14:23:21 <atemezi> ...but if we don't have time, it will not change the quality of the work
14:24:10 <cygri> zakim, who is noisy?
14:24:20 <Zakim> cygri, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (70%), gatemezi (40%)
14:25:06 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aaaa
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14:25:54 <cygri> zakim, aaaa is biplav
14:25:54 <Zakim> +biplav; got it
14:25:54 <PhilA2> ack me
14:26:52 <atemezi> PhilA2: About deadline, F2F meetings help to push works
14:27:14 <bhyland> Topic: How to progress deliverables in spite of travel restrictions ...
14:27:37 <bhyland> PhilA2: Suggested day long virtual Google hangout ...
14:27:48 <atemezi> ...maybe we need to find something creative (e.g: Googlehangout, etc) 
14:27:59 <bhyland> … A way to help us all meet deadlines with mild professional peer pressure 
14:28:09 <bhyland> +1
14:28:14 <cygri> +1
14:28:15 <atemezi> ...many WG make 4 F2Fa year..
14:28:17 <atemezi> +1
14:28:30 <atemezi> s/F2Fa/F2F
14:28:42 <George> q?
14:29:00 <atemezi> Topic: TPAC planning
14:29:53 <olyerickson> Previous TPAC was ginormous
14:30:00 <olyerickson> unmute me
14:30:11 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
14:30:11 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
14:30:15 <olyerickson> q+
14:30:28 <atemezi> PhilA2: before TPAC was a huge event, with several meetings
14:30:30 <bhyland> Topic: TPAC planning & increasing F2F time
14:30:32 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2012/SessionIdeas#Linked_Data:_Helping_Public_Sector_to_Publish_High_Quality_Data
14:30:38 <bhyland> zakim, who is talking?
14:30:48 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: gatemezi (39%)
14:30:50 <Zakim> -olyerickson
14:30:59 <bhyland> @Ghislain, please mute yourself
14:31:20 <cygri> zakim, mute gatemezi
14:31:20 <Zakim> gatemezi should now be muted
14:31:24 <atemezi> ...is really a big event in W3C, a way to integrate with other WG, interchange with others, a great social occasion
14:31:38 <olyerickson> previous TPAC was O(500) people
14:31:41 <atemezi> zakim, who is noisy?
14:31:51 <Zakim> atemezi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (19%), PhilA2 (4%)
14:32:16 <Zakim> +??P32
14:32:23 <olyerickson> Zakim, ??P32 is me.
14:32:23 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
14:33:54 <PhilA2> s/San Diego/San Francisco/
14:34:35 <atemezi> olyerickson: The previous TPAC in San Diego was one of the biggest one, with more than 500 persons
14:34:49 <atemezi> s/San Diego/ San Francisco
14:34:56 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2012/SessionIdeas#Linked_Data:_Helping_Public_Sector_to_Publish_High_Quality_Data
14:35:46 <George> q?
14:35:51 <olyerickson> ack
14:36:04 <atemezi> bhyland: ask for feedback to better prepare TPAC presentation
14:36:58 <cygri> but we have one editor from each spec?
14:37:20 <atemezi> George: Do we have enough editors in this call ?
14:37:38 <bhyland> Topic: Vocabulary Schedule / dates for DCAT
14:37:56 <cygri> q+
14:37:57 <olyerickson> I don't know what the final DCAT steps are
14:38:03 <olyerickson> q-
14:38:06 <bhyland> DIscussed: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-dcat/
14:38:34 <bhyland> zakim, who is talking?
14:38:44 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: George_Thomas (9%), olyerickson (9%), cygri (52%)
14:39:16 <atemezi> cygri: Do we have an evidence of progress to have a charter extension?
14:40:15 <atemezi> George: We could capture our needs by mails, a minute, and so on...
14:40:54 <atemezi> PhilA2: It depends on the need of the community, and do what our members want to do
14:41:39 <bhyland> PhilA2: An extension signals that charter deliverables have not yet been met but signals that they *will* be met within the timeframe.
14:42:04 <atemezi> ...an extension is a signal that the charter was not made, why not? Is there any guarantee to finish it in an extension date
14:42:53 <cygri> q+ to ask about deliverables
14:45:53 <cygri> q?
14:47:05 <bhyland> PhilA2: Put some dates out there around deliverables & progress
14:47:24 <bhyland> … wiki page that lays out the timeline & details for meeting our deliverables.
14:48:00 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Main_Page#Deliverables
14:48:19 <atemezi> George: Is that satisfy some of your questions before?
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14:49:54 <bhyland> Cygri: The listed deliverables are ambitious.  Having a status update on each of them would be helpful.
14:49:57 <bhyland> q+
14:51:07 <cygri> ack me
14:51:07 <Zakim> cygri, you wanted to ask about deliverables
14:52:23 <George> q?
14:53:18 <atemezi> bhyland: Send a post on the mailing list to show up what is actual status of our deliverables
14:54:15 <atemezi> George: What about the people vocab? 
14:54:59 <olyerickson> Link please?
14:55:32 <PhilA2> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Geography_and_Spatial_Information
14:55:51 <atemezi> People voca is here: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-people/
14:55:58 <atemezi> s/voca/vocab
14:56:05 <bhyland> I asked who put this wiki page up & whether anyone is working on this … I cannot tell from Recent Changes going 6 mos back!
14:56:51 <olyerickson> See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/index.php?title=Geography_and_Spatial_Information&action=history
14:57:17 <bhyland> Dave Smith, US EPA created the wiki page for Geography & Spatial Info ...
14:57:32 <bhyland> John Goodwin join the Location & Addresses Community Group
14:57:33 <PhilA2> LOCADD http://www.w3.org/community/locadd/
14:59:19 <George> q?
14:59:24 <cygri> q+
14:59:34 <George> ack bhyland 
14:59:42 <atemezi> Topic: Announcement
14:59:46 <bhyland> I have to hop … another meeting, goodbye and thank you.
14:59:54 <Zakim> -bhyland
15:00:07 <cygri>  http://www.gesis.org/en/events/gesis-workshops/ddi/
15:00:11 <atemezi> cygri: A workshop he is organizing on semantic statistics
15:00:18 <Zakim> -LuisBermudez
15:00:56 <atemezi> ...the focus is broader, with anything of applying semantic technology with statistics
15:00:58 <George> q?
15:01:03 <George> ack cygri 
15:01:39 <cygri> zakim, unmute atemezi 
15:01:42 <Zakim> sorry, cygri, I do not know which phone connection belongs to atemezi
15:01:56 <atemezi> Zakim, who is here?
15:01:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see George_Thomas, gatemezi (muted), DeirdreLee, PhilA2, cygri, tinagheen, Yigal, biplav, olyerickson
15:01:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see George, Biplav, Yigal, luisBermudez, tinagheen, PhilA2, RRSAgent, olyerickson, atemezi, DeirdreLee, MacTed, bhyland, danbri, cygri, Zakim, trackbot, sandro
15:02:06 <cygri> zakim, unmute gatemezi
15:02:06 <Zakim> gatemezi should no longer be muted
15:02:07 <PhilA2> Can you process the minutes atemezi ?
15:02:09 <olyerickson> Thanks!
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15:02:14 <Zakim> -olyerickson
15:02:16 <atemezi> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:02:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-gld-minutes.html atemezi
15:02:18 <Zakim> -PhilA2
15:02:20 <Zakim> -cygri
15:02:20 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee
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15:02:21 <Zakim> -tinagheen
15:02:21 <Zakim> -Yigal
15:02:23 <George> thanks Ghislain!
15:02:33 <Zakim> -George_Thomas
15:02:45 <PhilA2> PhilA2 has left #gld
15:02:58 <Zakim> -biplav
15:04:34 <atemezi> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
15:04:45 <atemezi> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:04:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/20-gld-minutes.html atemezi
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