Chatlog 2012-06-21

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14:00:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:00:57 <trackbot> Date: 21 June 2012
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14:01:14 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aabb is me
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14:02:06 <HadleyBeeman> Meeting agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120621
14:02:56 <bhyland> apologies, coming!
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14:11:17 <bhyland> Topic: Quick recap of what the handful of people who joined are doing in relation to GLD
14:12:21 <bhyland> Hadley: LinkedDev in UK received approval for funding for another year. 
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14:13:05 <bhyland> Changes to rules on hires.  Still remain committed to crowd sourcing and linking of UK Gov't Data.
14:13:51 <bhyland> Remains committed to effort lead by TimBL and Nigel, (re)funded for 10M GBP for next 5 years.
14:13:59 <bhyland> Will be participating in standards development.
14:14:02 <George> nice to hear you Hadley - and congrats on your continues LinkedGov and OpenData Institute Success !!
14:14:34 <George> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-05/21/open-data-institute-plans
14:16:53 <bhyland> Open Data Institute is working out details of how to operate.  Four pillars: 1) impact of publishing LOD 2) standards formation, vocab creation; 3) support of Startups and SMEs who could work with Open Data (bus + tech guidance); 4) Training through Univ of Southampton
14:19:30 <bhyland> Topic: Michael Hausenblas' update ...
14:20:11 <bhyland> (Taking holiday in August).  Discussing alignment with People Vocab & ISA Programme vocabularies, specifically ADMS.
14:21:01 <bhyland> Goal is to create an updated version of People Vocab contemplating the ADMS integration.  Then think about going to last call.
14:22:12 <bhyland> Michael asked that the GLD WG consider whether the use cases are sufficient in the FPWD.  Think in context of real world data sets and raise issues now please.  This should be a priority for GLD WG.
14:23:36 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-people/#interoperability-considerations
14:23:40 <bhyland> Sandro: consider how schema.org plays into what Michael discussed. 
14:24:32 <bhyland> Michael: Suggested it is simple.  Here are the mappings to other valuable vocabularies, including schema.org.  Explains canonical mapping to key vocabs.  
14:25:00 <bhyland> Sandro: How does this work? It is through equivalent or subclassing?
14:25:21 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets
14:27:07 <bhyland> … Suggests that "Mappings" is "approximately equivalent".  More consideration needs to be given.  More formally using OWL or less formally with mappings.  All good questions that will be given consideration.
14:27:31 <bhyland> Sandro: In best practices we should guide people on considerations ...
14:30:39 <bhyland> Topic: Best Practices
14:31:33 <bhyland> Sandro: Goal is to document how to deal with equivalent vs same URIs for the same thing
14:33:01 <sandro> sandro: When should you use someone else's URI for something vs minting your own <--- comes up with people vocab, and we should give general advice in BP.
14:33:56 <bhyland> Topic: GLD Vocabs
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14:34:27 <bhyland> George: Looking to make pretty serious progress on DCAT with feedback from Faadi & Rufus (OKF).  
14:34:51 <bhyland> In July, expect to resolve issues Ed Summers (LoC) raised previously.  
14:35:11 <bhyland> PhilA will give ISA Programme updates
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14:35:57 <Yigal> zakim, ??p28 is me
14:35:57 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it
14:37:29 <HadleyBeeman> Congratulations, George!  Sounds like a big success.
14:37:35 <mhausenblas> Very cool - huge kudos to George and thanks a lot for this!! 
14:39:36 <bhyland> Discussed Health Datapalooza and *huge* gains in mindshare that George has largely helped achieve in the last couple years.  To have the US Federal CTO be supportive of & use the terms "machine readable open government content" … APIs to access the data ..
14:41:12 <bhyland> Topic: Update from Zach.  Formally with Johns Hopkins Adv Physics Labs (APL). He has joined Orbis who does more DoD/Intel work.
14:42:40 <bhyland> Works on disconnected network from Web.  Operating in a parallel universe.  Ideas on how to work with disconnected networks?
14:43:10 <bhyland> … bridging gap between cloud computing and semantic web technology
14:44:42 <bhyland> @Zach - check out http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter.html
14:45:18 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp
14:45:47 <bhyland> Chairs of the LD Platform WG, see Arnaud Le Hors, IBM
14:45:47 <bhyland> Erik Wilde, EMC
14:46:45 <bhyland> Topic: W3C Offices, see http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Offices/role.html
14:47:02 <bhyland> Sandro described: A W3C Office is a regional arm that helps recruit Members and promote W3C technology.
14:47:44 <HadleyBeeman> that sounds exciting
14:47:54 <George> good luck with the grant Sandro!
14:49:51 <HadleyBeeman> Belated congrats, bhyland!  That's great.
14:51:01 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'll have to leave now unfortunately, heading to next meeting, sorry
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14:51:19 <HadleyBeeman> I'm very in favour of the schema.org conversations
14:51:39 <bhyland> Topic: Planning upcoming meetings in July
14:52:25 <bhyland> Hadley: Hearing a lot of interest around schema.org.  Would like to have more discussion about how GLD WG can be relevant and part of the process, and consider what we recommend in Best Practices deliverable.
14:53:52 <bhyland> … Feels she needs to know more & how it fits in the landscape.
14:54:00 <bhyland> Panel at SemTech: "big guns" panel with Ivan Herman of W3C (Moderator), Dan Brickley, of Schema.org at Google;  R.V. Guha of Google;  Steve Macbeth of Microsoft; Peter Mika of Yahoo!; Jeffrey W. Preston of Disney Interactive Media Group; Evan Sandhaus of The New York Times Company; and Alexander Shubin of Yandex.
14:54:53 <bhyland> Topic: Yigal's update
14:56:10 <bhyland> Works at USC research group where Yigal is Deputy Director of AI research team.  Working on linked data activities for data integration, specifically for biology & phenotype work.
14:56:34 <bhyland> Other people at ISI working with Yigal are involved in the Provenance WG. 
14:57:00 <bhyland> q?
14:57:18 <bhyland> Topic: Progress on Open Data Institute
14:58:02 <bhyland> Now deciding 'who needs what'… would welcome input from the GLD WG on what is needed to make this real.  Help provide direction to the institute.
15:00:12 <bhyland> meeting adjourned.
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15:00:29 <bhyland> Thanks all for your acceptance of a more fluid meeting agenda today.
15:00:31 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
15:00:32 <bhyland> Enjoyed it!
15:00:34 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.443.569.aaaa, +1.440.389.aabb, HadleyBeeman, mhausenblas, sandro, bhyland, George_Thomas, Yigal
15:00:40 <bhyland> I'll produce the minutes.
15:00:52 <HadleyBeeman> Me too! Useful to hear what the group is up to.
15:01:19 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is ZacharyWhitley
15:01:19 <Zakim> sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
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