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14:02:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
14:02:48 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
14:02:49 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:02:49 <trackbot> Date: 14 June 2012
14:02:51 <PhilA2> zakim, code?
14:02:51 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2
14:03:00 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
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14:03:23 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P28 is me
14:03:23 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
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14:03:46 <cygri> zakim, i'm with mhausenblas
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14:04:01 <boris> zakim, ??P31 is me
14:04:01 <Zakim> +boris; got it
14:04:07 <George> zakim, who is here?
14:04:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, +49.721.aaaa, +3539149aabb, George_Thomas, bhyland, +1.757.604.aacc, +1.202.566.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.978.352.aaee, PhilA2, boris
14:04:13 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri
14:04:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see cygri, olyerickson, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, boris, Mike_Pendleton, PhilA2, Zakim, George, atemezi, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, cgueret_work, mhausenblas, bhyland,
14:04:18 <Zakim> ... MacTed, sandro, trackbot
14:04:29 <GeraldSteeman> zakim, aacc is me.
14:04:29 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman; got it
14:04:37 <Zakim> -??P0
14:04:52 <fadmaa> PROPOSAL: accept minutes of 2012-05-31 meeting: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-05-31
14:04:53 <Zakim> +??P0
14:05:28 <bhyland> +1
14:05:36 <fadmaa> Zakim, +35391 is me
14:05:36 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
14:05:40 <mhausenblas> +1
14:06:17 <olyerickson> Phone problems will join in a little bit :( 
14:06:38 <fadmaa> http://www.springerlink.com/content/v45x551323v21536/
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14:07:58 <bhyland> @fadmaa is there a link to your presentation or paper?
14:08:13 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:08:30 <tinagheen> zakim, [LC] is me
14:08:30 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it
14:08:50 <bhyland> @fadmaa would you share the PDF with the members list please?
14:09:22 <bhyland> q+
14:09:34 <fadmaa> my slides is on: http://www.slideshare.net/fadimaali/selfservice-linked-government-data
14:09:44 <BenediktKaempgen> +q
14:09:48 <fadmaa> @bhyland sure will do
14:11:39 <fadmaa> BenediktKaempgen: at ESWC 2012 there was some work similar to Data Cube vocabulary
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14:11:53 <fadmaa> ... but didn't use it, I pointed them to the work
14:12:03 <Zakim> +??P37
14:12:20 <fadmaa> ... in general there was interest in statistical data at ESWC
14:12:21 <olyerickson> zakim, ??p37 is me.
14:12:21 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
14:12:26 <bhyland> +q
14:12:36 <George> acq bhyland 
14:12:41 <George> ack bhyland 
14:12:45 <George> ack BenediktKaempgen 
14:12:46 <bhyland> ESWC12 link is here http://2012.eswc-conferences.org/
14:12:52 <bhyland> q+
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14:13:13 <bhyland> ack me
14:13:21 <mhausenblas> http://data-forum.eu/
14:13:37 <fadmaa> mhausenblas: reporting on data-forum.eu
14:13:44 <Zakim> + +3539149aaff
14:13:55 <fadmaa> ... there was a mix of academic and industry focusing on big data 
14:14:18 <fadmaa> ... sildes and video will be soon made available summarising the event
14:14:54 <atemezi> s/sildes/slides
14:15:17 <BenediktKaempgen> Pointers regarding ESWC and QB: 1) Best demo award: Heiko Paulheim. Generating Possible Interpretations for Statistics from Linked Open Data. 2) Alon Halevy: Fusion Tables and Retrieving Information from Web Tables 3) Christoph Lange, Patrick Ion, Anastasia Dimou, Charalampos Bratsas, Wolfram Sperber, Michael Kohlhase and Ioannis Antoniou. Getting Mathematics Towards the Web of Data: the Case of the Mathematics Subject Classification. 4) Cube-Paper not 
14:15:27 <fadmaa> ... there is a demand on processing big data
14:15:48 <fadmaa> ... but I sensed a need about standardizing the published data
14:15:54 <fadmaa> ... I presented related work there
14:16:38 <bhyland> Nigel Shadbolt @ESWC 2012 emphasized importance of policy and describing new use cases and describing benefits.
14:17:16 <PhilA2> I'd just add that the data Forum was a well organised and very interesting event. Shadbolt's speech was very good I thought
14:17:48 <fadmaa> fadmaa: at ESWC the vast majority were academic
14:17:59 <bhyland> ESWC 2012 attendance was about 250, mostly academic per Fadi
14:18:09 <fadmaa> mhausenblas: ad the data-forum wasn't the case that majority were academic
14:18:21 <George> q?
14:18:29 <fadmaa> ... there was a good mix of both academic and industry ~ fifty-fifty roughly
14:18:29 <bhyland> Data Forum EU was 50/50 academe / industry
14:19:10 <fadmaa> George: talking about health Datapalooza
14:19:30 <fadmaa> ... http://www.hdiforum.org/
14:20:05 <fadmaa> ... it is an event bringing open government data to innovator and private sector to help health-related initiatives in teh US
14:20:23 <olyerickson> 48 people first year, 1600 plus waiting list this year
14:20:23 <bhyland> Topic: Health Datapalooza AKA HDI Forum III facilitated by Todd Park, US Federal CTO
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14:20:55 <bhyland> Link to the main conference site: http://www.hdiforum.org/
14:21:16 <fadmaa> George: a clear need to better data practices when it comes to innovation in health related issues
14:21:43 <fadmaa> ... our contribution is publishing health data with the intention of making them all available as Linked Data
14:22:45 <fadmaa> ... people are invited to innovate on presenting the catalogue available. the GLD work on vocabularies is related
14:23:08 <fadmaa> ... a total of 35k is awarded to the three best works
14:23:30 <fadmaa> ... a second challenge is related to innovate with Open ID 
14:23:45 <fadmaa> ... feedback is welcomed
14:24:04 <fadmaa> http://www.healthdata.gov/developer-challenges-overview
14:24:35 <bhyland> Link to George's presentation on healthdata.gov challenges overview, see http://www.healthdata.gov/blog/healthdatagov-now-next-and-challenges
14:24:42 <George> q?
14:24:53 <bhyland> q+
14:24:59 <George> ack bhyland 
14:25:25 <olyerickson> http://challenge.gov/ONC/374-health-data-platform-metadata-challenge
14:25:43 <George> http://www.healthdata.gov/developer-challenges-overview
14:25:46 <fadmaa> bhyland: you gave a presentation there... I'd be interested to know about the challenge faced in teh project (not the challenge competition)
14:25:53 <olyerickson> http://www.healthdata.gov/blog/platform-challenge-1-simplified-sign
14:26:17 <bhyland> Health TechTalk, April 16, 2012, see http://www.hhs.gov/open/discussion/newhealthdataresource.html
14:26:17 <bhyland> Report by George Thomas, Chief Architect, Office of the CIO; David Forrest, Healthdata.gov Lead Project Manager; Todd Park, US Chief Technology Officer
14:26:17 <bhyland> Building a new health data resource:  healthdata.gov Version 2.0
14:26:45 <fadmaa> bhyland: An interesting series of videos about personal health recently made available and George took part there
14:26:55 <fadmaa> ... and talked about Linked Data and API.
14:26:58 <olyerickson> Todd Park => "CTO of the United States" 
14:27:31 <fadmaa> ... It was excellent and interesting to see a senior person (Todd Park => "CTO of the United States") talking about
14:27:41 <fadmaa> ... machine-readable data and API
14:27:50 <fadmaa> ... great to have George participating there
14:28:51 <fadmaa> George: we are interested in continuously enriching the data... looking at CKAN, Linked Data Integration framework, etc... input very welcomed
14:30:32 <bhyland> This is a huge milestone for US Gov't and people working to support 4-5 star LOD
14:30:50 <fadmaa> George talking about SemTech now
14:31:00 <bhyland> Topic: SemTech 2012 SF, see minutes http://www.w3.org/2012/06/13-swcg-minutes.html
14:31:09 <fadmaa> George: minute from the semantic web "session" is available
14:31:39 <fadmaa> bhyland: attendance were down about 30 %
14:32:08 <fadmaa> ... Oracle and IBM presented ther. they are supporting Linked Data Pattern WG
14:32:44 <bhyland> Link to the GLD WG's talk "Progress Report" is here, http://www.slideshare.net/3roundstones/progress-update-on-government-linked-data-world
14:33:01 <fadmaa> ... the GLD talk which is  a progress report: http://www.slideshare.net/3roundstones/progress-update-on-government-linked-data-world
14:33:13 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
14:33:13 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
14:33:24 <fadmaa> bhyland: around 40 person attended
14:33:41 <bhyland> Panel on Linked Enterprise Data Patterns, David Wood, Arnaud le Hors, Ashok Malhotra
14:33:43 <fadmaa> ... a very good number
14:33:49 <fadmaa> ... and a very good feedback
14:34:06 <fadmaa> ... 100k USD challenge regarding Big Data was announced
14:34:07 <bhyland> Yarc Data announced $100k challenge, see http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/yarcdata-announces-100000-big-data-graph-analytics-challenge-nasdaq-cray-1665268.htm
14:34:39 <fadmaa> bhyland: a panel on schema.org had a large crowd
14:34:48 <bhyland> Panel schema.org very well attended, almost keynote crowd: Ivan Herman, World Wide Web Consortium
14:34:48 <bhyland> Alexander Shubin, Yandex
14:34:48 <bhyland> Dan Brickley, Schema.org at Google
14:34:48 <bhyland> Evan Sandhaus, New York Times Company
14:34:48 <bhyland> Jeffrey W. Preston, Disney Interactive Media Group
14:34:48 <bhyland> John Giannandrea, Google
14:34:50 <bhyland> Peter Mika, Yahoo!
14:34:52 <bhyland> R.V. Guha, Google
14:34:54 <bhyland> Steve Macbeth, Microsoft
14:36:16 <George> http://www.slideshare.net/owensacco/towards-patient-controlled-privacy
14:36:32 <George> http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/pcast-health-it-report.pdf
14:36:43 <George> 'data element access services' 
14:36:49 <fadmaa> George: Owen Sacco from DERI gave a presentation titled "Towards Patient Controlled Privacy" a collaboration between DERI and HCLS. combine Linked Data and  privacy 
14:37:53 <fadmaa> ... it is mainly about controlling access to private and personal Linked Data
14:38:26 <olyerickson> EurekaBox?!?!?
14:39:01 <olyerickson> uRiKA
14:39:39 <bhyland> q+
14:39:44 <olyerickson> uRiKA mentioned in Yarc announcement http://mwne.ws/LH0rYq
14:40:19 <fadmaa> George: talked about processing big graph together with Linked Data API and privacy aware access 
14:40:24 <olyerickson> About uRiKA:"...YarcData's uRiKA system is a Big Data appliance for graph analytics. uRiKA helps enterprises reveal unknown, unexpected or hidden relationships in Big Data by creating a highly-scalable, real-time graph analytics warehouse that supports ad hoc queries, pattern-based searches, inferencing and deduction..." 
14:41:39 <fadmaa> bhyland: looking at Owen's slides and see MySQL together with Sesame. any reason for having the both?
14:42:08 <fadmaa> George: the intention is to integrate with Linked Data API. the current implementation is just a prototype
14:42:40 <olyerickson> o
14:43:43 <fadmaa> olyerickson: access control and writing management is an issue that was interesting from the early days of the Semantic Web 
14:44:03 <fadmaa> ... it is fascinating to see these are revised with Linked Data in the health care domain
14:44:10 <George> q?
14:44:14 <bhyland> ack me
14:45:04 <bhyland> @george, a blog post by you and/or Owen about the value of a LD approach for patient rights management would be extremely helpful ....
14:45:11 <fadmaa> George: FYI, an extension to schema.org a datasets extension is proposed
14:45:25 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets
14:45:28 <George> @bhyland - indeed, will work on that :)
14:46:00 <fadmaa> olyerickson: the process of extending schema.org is to define a domain-specific vocabulary proposal
14:46:25 <fadmaa> ... on a Wiki to have a discussion. Firstly, in private and the there is a public discussion
14:46:35 <mhausenblas> q+ to note implications of Schema.org extensions
14:46:45 <fadmaa> ... if theres is no objection it has the potential to be part of the schema.org
14:47:11 <fadmaa> olyerickson: the current extension developed by folks at RPI is currently under discussion
14:47:28 <fadmaa> ... it is a subset of DCAT  
14:47:31 <mhausenblas> ack me
14:47:31 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to note implications of Schema.org extensions
14:47:42 <bhyland> Is anyone else having trouble reaching the w3.org/wiki ?
14:47:50 <fadmaa> mhausenblas: gret job by RPI. good that you mapped the extension to DCAT 
14:47:58 <fadmaa> s/gret/great/
14:48:48 <fadmaa> mhausenblas: if the extension gets accepted, then the consortium behind schema.org
14:49:03 <fadmaa> ... adopts the terms. which is a very good thing
14:49:15 <fadmaa> q+
14:49:23 <fadmaa> akim, unmute me
14:49:26 <mhausenblas> q?
14:49:38 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
14:49:38 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
14:49:38 <olyerickson> @mhausenblas thanks!
14:49:57 <olyerickson> @fadmaa thanks!
14:50:55 <olyerickson> fadmaa: Googe point w.r.t. potential for confusion
14:51:48 <PhilA2> Yep
14:51:51 <fadmaa> George: we will discuss this on the call on 28 
14:52:10 <fadmaa> ... we got feedback from Rufus Pollock from CKAN which is great
14:52:27 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
14:52:27 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
14:52:46 <fadmaa> George:  I also reached out to Edd summer we will hopefully get his comments related to DCAT
14:53:10 <bhyland> zakim, who is talking?
14:53:26 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 15 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (6%), George_Thomas (76%)
14:53:57 <George> q?
14:54:25 <PhilA2> http://www.multilingualweb.eu/documents/dublin-workshop/dublin-cfp
14:54:30 <olyerickson> +1 to ridiculous numbers of events...
14:54:30 <fadmaa> PhilA2 reporting on multilingual web project in Dublin
14:54:30 <mhausenblas> Michael: Regrets in advance for 28 June, I'm on travel and hence not able to join
14:54:54 <fadmaa> PhilA2: it is EU funded project and the topic is related to the work this WG is pursuing regarding interoperability
14:54:56 <bhyland> Topic: Multilingual Web, see http://www.multilingualweb.eu/en/about-the-project
14:55:06 <olyerickson> The preso on Multilingual was superb
14:55:33 <fadmaa> PhilA2: an interesting talk about best practices design of URIs quoting bhyland 's work
14:56:10 <Deirdre> q+
14:56:19 <bhyland> The work of the MultilingualWeb initiative is being driven by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), an organization of around 400 member organizations worldwide from research and industry, headed by the Web's inventor, Sir Tim Berners-Lee. It is supported with funding from the European Commission.
14:56:27 <fadmaa> ... there is a possibility of collaboration work there. they showed interest in the work of GLD 
14:56:36 <fadmaa> ack me
14:56:43 <fadmaa> Zakim, ack me
14:56:43 <Zakim> I see Deirdre on the speaker queue
14:57:25 <bhyland> q+
14:57:36 <George> ack Deirdre 
14:57:36 <fadmaa> Deirdre: the NLP unit in DERI was involved in the multilingual event and we have good connection with them
14:58:14 <mhausenblas> Michael: OK, I gotta run now, sorry & cya all soon again
14:58:17 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
14:58:19 <Deirdre> EU Monnet project: http://www.monnet-project.eu/Monnet/Monnet/English?init=true
14:58:37 <fadmaa> bhyland: GLD working group is getting very good attention
14:58:38 <olyerickson> http://www.slideshare.net/jelabra/best-practices-for-multilingual-linked-open-data
14:58:38 <olyerickson> "Best Practices for Multilingual Linked Open Data", Jose Emilo Labra Gayo, Given at W3c Workshop on Multilingual Web, Dublin, 11 June, 2012
14:59:03 <olyerickson> PhilA2: Was that the one? It is an excellent preso...
14:59:13 <fadmaa> .. it is a good thing but we have to move on and deliver the results
14:59:26 <fadmaa> ... especially in proceeding with vocabularies
14:59:34 <PhilA2> yes, olyerickson, that was the one - it was very good
14:59:50 <olyerickson> Yes it was; Note esp. their notion of modelling resources, not labels --- introducing a layer of abstraction, enabling equivalent language manifestations to be added (@en, @es, etc)
15:00:01 <fadmaa> bhyland: next week meeting will focus on best practices
15:00:04 <George> q?
15:00:04 <Deirdre> q+
15:00:20 <Zakim> -tinagheen
15:00:23 <olyerickson> Ah yes, Brussels!
15:00:28 <bhyland> ack me
15:00:38 <olyerickson> PhilA2: LOL!
15:00:38 <George> ack Deirdre 
15:00:55 <fadmaa> PhilA2: a number of events are taking place in Brussel next week
15:01:11 <fadmaa> ... conference on ADMS, a workshop on consuming linked data
15:01:54 <Deirdre> http://ec.europa.eu/isa/events/2012/0618_semic_2012_en.htm
15:01:58 <fadmaa> workshop on consuming Linked Data http://www.w3.org/2012/06/pmod/
15:01:59 <Deirdre> SEMIC 2012
15:02:16 <PhilA2> All events that I'm aware of in Brussels next week are detailed at http://philarcher.org/diary/2012/juneevents/
15:02:25 <olyerickson> My brain hurts...
15:02:30 <olyerickson> Have a GREAT ine!
15:02:31 <cgueret_work> bye
15:02:40 <Zakim> - +1.202.566.aadd
15:02:45 <bhyland> Thanks George and Fadi for scribing
15:02:46 <Zakim> - +1.978.352.aaee
15:02:48 <olyerickson> Elvis has left the room...
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15:03:22 <Zakim> -fadmaa
15:03:59 <Zakim> sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'davidwood'
15:04:27 <bhyland> zakim, of course you don't … bot!
15:04:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'of course you don't … bot!', bhyland
15:04:42 <bhyland> precisely!
15:05:26 <bhyland> @PhilA2 - good luck with the Brussels event, it looks great and will be an excellent crowd … have fun!
15:06:44 <PhilA2> Thanks bhyland - I'm looking forward to it even though it's going to be a tough couple of days
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15:35:02 <Zakim> Attendees were +49.721.aaaa, +3539149aabb, George_Thomas, bhyland, +1.757.604.aacc, +1.202.566.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.978.352.aaee, PhilA2, cygri, boris, GeraldSteeman, fadmaa,
15:35:02 <Zakim> ... tinagheen, olyerickson, +3539149aaff
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