14:52:52 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #gld
14:52:52 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/12/15-gld-irc
14:52:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:52:54 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #gld
14:52:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD
14:52:56 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:52:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:52:57 <trackbot> Date: 15 December 2011
14:53:00 <sandro> zakim, this will be gld
14:53:01 <Zakim> ok, sandro; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:53:43 <BenediktKaempgen> hello
14:55:51 <BenediktKaempgen> Scribe: BenediktKaempgen
14:56:15 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has now started
14:56:22 <Zakim> +davidwood
14:56:29 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me
14:56:29 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it
14:56:53 <olyerickson> olyerickson has joined #GLD
14:57:08 <Zakim> +George
14:57:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:57:17 <olyerickson> I'll be on in a second... busy day at #TWCRPI ;) 
14:57:28 <George> George has joined #gld
14:57:39 <bhyland> If anyone wanted to share what RDF is with their kids, here is something fun for you to share, see  http://3roundstones.com/linked-data-101/rdf-explained/
14:57:40 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
14:58:09 <gatemezin> gatemezin has joined #gld
14:58:29 <BenediktKaempgen> rrsagent, make records public
14:58:42 <BenediktKaempgen> Scribe: BenediktKaempgen
14:58:50 <BenediktKaempgen> Chair: bhyland
14:59:17 <Mike_Pendleton> Mike_Pendleton has joined #gld
14:59:31 <tgheen> tgheen has joined #gld
14:59:32 <martin> martin has joined #gld
14:59:55 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aaaa
15:00:04 <BenediktKaempgen> trackbot-ng, start telcon
15:00:06 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:00:08 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD
15:00:08 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
15:00:09 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
15:00:09 <trackbot> Date: 15 December 2011
15:00:24 <BenediktKaempgen> scribe: BenediktKaempgen
15:00:34 <BenediktKaempgen> chair: bhyland
15:00:43 <LuisBermudez> LuisBermudez has joined #gld
15:00:46 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
15:00:46 <Zakim> I notice T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has restarted
15:00:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, George, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, +1.202.566.aaaa, [LC]
15:00:58 <bhyland> Did we just kicked off the call?
15:01:03 <tgheen> Zakim, [LC] is me
15:01:03 <Zakim> +tgheen; got it
15:01:09 <Zakim> +sandro
15:01:17 <Zakim> + +1.267.481.aabb
15:01:26 <Zakim> +raphael
15:01:30 <Zakim> +DanG
15:01:32 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is Mike_Pendleton
15:01:32 <Zakim> +Mike_Pendleton; got it
15:01:38 <BenediktKaempgen> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.12.15#Agenda
15:01:47 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
15:01:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, George, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, Mike_Pendleton, tgheen, sandro, +1.267.481.aabb, raphael, DanG
15:02:08 <DanG> DanG has joined #gld
15:02:25 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aabb is  luisbermudez
15:02:27 <Zakim> +luisbermudez; got it
15:02:31 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is LuisBemudez
15:02:34 <Zakim> sorry, bhyland, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
15:02:40 <rreck> rreck has joined #GLD
15:02:45 <BenediktKaempgen> BenediktKaempgen is connected through Skype. Hope it will stay connected.
15:03:32 <Zakim> +??P38
15:03:34 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: one more call on 22nd of December?
15:03:37 <HadleyBeeman> I'm travelling on 22 Dec, unfortunately
15:03:49 <George> I can make the 22nd
15:03:51 <gatemezin> q+
15:03:54 <Druidsmith> Druidsmith has joined #gld
15:03:55 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
15:03:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, George, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, Mike_Pendleton, tgheen, sandro, luisbermudez, raphael, DanG, ??P38
15:04:03 <Zakim> -??P38
15:04:05 <BenediktKaempgen> I cannot 
15:04:14 <Zakim> +??P38
15:04:18 <gatemezin> I can make also on the 22nd
15:04:22 <GeraldSteeman> GeraldSteeman has joined #GLD
15:04:29 <Zakim> +rreck
15:04:34 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, ?p38 is benediktkempgen
15:04:34 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named '?p38'
15:04:38 <DanG> I probably can't attend next week.  Don't count on me.
15:04:43 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, p38 is benediktkempgen
15:04:43 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'p38'
15:05:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, +??P38 is benediktkempgen
15:05:01 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named '+??P38'
15:05:05 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who's here
15:05:05 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, you need to end that query with '?'
15:05:09 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who's here?
15:05:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, George, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, Mike_Pendleton, tgheen, sandro, luisbermudez, raphael, DanG, ??P38, rreck
15:05:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, Druidsmith, rreck, DanG, LuisBermudez, martin, tgheen, Mike_Pendleton, gatemezin, George, olyerickson, Zakim, RRSAgent, HadleyBeeman, BenediktKaempgen,
15:05:14 <BenediktKaempgen> Accept last minutes?
15:05:16 <Zakim> ... trackbot, bhyland, danbri, sandro
15:05:22 <Zakim> +??P41
15:05:31 <martin> zakim, mute me
15:05:32 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, ??P38 is benediktkempgen
15:05:35 <Zakim> sorry, martin, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:05:39 <Zakim> +benediktkempgen; got it
15:05:40 <BenediktKaempgen> PROPOSED: accept minutes
15:05:46 <martin> zakim, ??p41 is me
15:05:46 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who's here?
15:05:47 <Zakim> +martin; got it
15:05:47 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-12-08
15:05:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, George, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, Mike_Pendleton, tgheen, sandro, luisbermudez, raphael, DanG, benediktkempgen, rreck, martin
15:05:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see GeraldSteeman, Druidsmith, rreck, DanG, LuisBermudez, martin, tgheen, Mike_Pendleton, gatemezin, George, olyerickson, Zakim, RRSAgent, HadleyBeeman, BenediktKaempgen,
15:06:01 <Zakim> ... trackbot, bhyland, danbri, sandro
15:06:08 <George> confirmed :)
15:06:14 <gatemezin> +1
15:06:21 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone? 
15:06:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland, George, [IPcaller], HadleyBeeman, Mike_Pendleton, tgheen, sandro, luisbermudez, raphael, DanG, benediktkempgen, rreck, martin
15:06:22 <George> +1
15:06:23 <Yigal> Yigal has joined #gld
15:06:26 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
15:06:37 <rreck> someone is breathing quite loudly
15:06:37 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (5%), George (29%)
15:06:45 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman
15:06:53 <bhyland> Action Item review, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open
15:06:53 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Item
15:07:18 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
15:07:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
15:07:21 <BenediktKaempgen> minutes accepted?
15:07:22 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking?
15:07:29 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (5%), benediktkempgen (8%), ??P46 (5%)
15:07:34 <Yigal> zakim, IPcaller.a i sme
15:07:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'IPcaller.a i sme', Yigal
15:07:39 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (18%), sandro (15%), benediktkempgen (5%), [IPcaller.a] (9%)
15:07:44 <Yigal> zakim, IPcaller.a is me
15:07:45 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it
15:07:53 <BenediktKaempgen> I am muted.
15:07:55 <sandro> zakim, mute BenediktKaempgen 
15:07:56 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not know which phone connection belongs to BenediktKaempgen
15:08:06 <sandro> Zakim, mute benediktkempgen
15:08:06 <Zakim> benediktkempgen should now be muted
15:08:12 <bhyland> zakim, who is talking?
15:08:13 <sandro> zakim, mute IPcaller.a
15:08:13 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not know which phone connection belongs to IPcaller.a
15:08:21 <Zakim> +DruidSmith_
15:08:22 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: sandro (14%)
15:08:23 <gatemezin> Zakim, mute gatemezin
15:08:23 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezin, I do not know which phone connection belongs to gatemezin
15:08:23 <sandro> zakim, who is making noise?
15:08:25 <martin> zakim, who is muted?
15:08:25 <Zakim> I see benediktkempgen muted
15:08:34 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: DruidSmith_ (60%), bhyland (44%), sandro (33%)
15:08:45 <sandro> zakim, mute Druidsmith_
15:08:45 <Zakim> DruidSmith_ should now be muted
15:08:47 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aacc
15:08:55 <olyerickson> zakim aacc is me
15:08:55 <gatemezin> Zakim, mute raphael
15:08:57 <Zakim> raphael should now be muted
15:09:01 <sandro> zakim, who is muted?
15:09:01 <Zakim> I see raphael, benediktkempgen, DruidSmith_ muted
15:09:12 <olyerickson> zakim, aacc is me.
15:09:12 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
15:09:20 <olyerickson> the noise is NOT me
15:09:35 <GeraldSteeman> * The Zakim bridge has the capability to mute conferees. (Muting blocks sound on a conferee's line from being heard on the conference.) Conferees can mute themselves by dialing 61#. In that case, unmute is 60#.
15:09:43 <BenediktKaempgen> RESOLVED: accept minutes
15:10:10 <rreck> zakim, mute me
15:10:11 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted
15:10:12 <BenediktKaempgen> Topic: Community Directory update
15:10:20 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/9
15:10:39 <DanG> I muted for a few seconds, but the sound continued anyway.
15:10:46 <bhyland> zakim, who is a talking?
15:10:46 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.
15:10:51 <gatemezin> bhyland: acton-9 still open
15:11:13 <gatemezin> s/acton/action
15:11:24 <sandro> zakim, mute martin 
15:11:24 <Zakim> martin should now be muted
15:11:35 <sandro> martin, it was you making the noise.
15:12:00 <rreck> zakim, unmute me
15:12:01 <Zakim> rreck should no longer be muted
15:12:02 <BenediktKaempgen> action-13: will be send soon
15:12:02 <trackbot> ACTION-13 Post OGV docs as input to GLD on GLD wiki notes added
15:12:06 <sandro> zakim, who is muted?
15:12:06 <Zakim> I see raphael, benediktkempgen, martin, DruidSmith_ muted
15:12:17 <sandro> Zakim, unmute benediktkempgen
15:12:17 <Zakim> benediktkempgen should no longer be muted
15:12:23 <sandro> zakim, unmute DruidSmith_
15:12:23 <Zakim> DruidSmith_ should no longer be muted
15:12:31 <gatemezin> ??: will send documents for action-13 very soon
15:12:39 <sandro> s/??/DanG/
15:13:02 <Zakim> -benediktkempgen
15:13:45 <gatemezin> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/16
15:13:46 <rreck> can i be involved in that please?
15:13:59 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks gatemezin
15:14:01 <gatemezin> bhyland: discussion started 
15:14:04 <rreck> my good friend Ken Sall talks to me about NIEM all the time
15:14:20 <BenediktKaempgen> topic: Action Items
15:14:37 <rreck> let's hope it doesnt use anonymous nodes
15:14:43 <gatemezin> ... with Cory.. planning to model and use of conversion programme to RDF
15:14:55 <BenediktKaempgen> ... not sure whether good rdf
15:15:17 <gatemezin> action-16 is closed
15:15:44 <BenediktKaempgen> subtopic: action-18
15:15:48 <sandro> close action-16
15:15:48 <trackbot> ACTION-16 Agreed to facilitate NIEM discussion and get outline started working with bhyland. closed
15:16:13 <BenediktKaempgen> jerrickson: action item community draft supersedes it?
15:16:28 <gatemezin> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/18
15:16:32 <bhyland> ACTION-18: Agreed to facilitate initial wiki draft on Vocab page on VCAT.
15:16:33 <trackbot> ACTION-18 Agreed to facilitate initial wiki draft on Vocab page on VCAT. notes added
15:16:50 <BenediktKaempgen> olyerickson: what means wiki draft
15:16:51 <BenediktKaempgen> ?
15:17:13 <gatemezin> ??: create a Community draft for that, it is the focus
15:17:33 <gatemezin> ..may be that action should be closed
15:17:47 <BenediktKaempgen> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/open
15:18:16 <gatemezin> s/??/olyerickson
15:18:39 <BenediktKaempgen> olyerickson: vcat, ok.
15:19:02 <BenediktKaempgen> ... remains open
15:19:27 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: olyerickson please ping George or bhyland to clarify
15:19:45 <DanG> I posted the Open Government Vocabularies documents on 7 December
15:19:48 <BenediktKaempgen> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/20
15:20:01 <BenediktKaempgen> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/21
15:20:03 <gatemezin> action-20 still open
15:20:24 <BenediktKaempgen> action-21 will be talked about later
15:20:41 <BenediktKaempgen> subtopic: action-22 
15:20:44 <gatemezin> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/22
15:20:59 <BenediktKaempgen> ??: wiki content will be synthesized
15:21:15 <BenediktKaempgen> ... will have something relatively substantial.
15:21:26 <gatemezin> s/??/rreck
15:21:40 <BenediktKaempgen> action-23 - anyone heard from TopQuadrant
15:22:00 <BenediktKaempgen> action-24 - community draft, dcat
15:22:02 <gatemezin> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/24
15:22:24 <BenediktKaempgen> olyerrickson: should be done rather soon
15:22:48 <BenediktKaempgen> ... sill some issues in discussion, e.g., language issue
15:22:49 <gatemezin> ??: still have some issues in discussion, like the language issue
15:23:19 <gatemezin> s/??/olyerickson
15:23:34 <gatemezin> s/olyerrickson/olyerickson
15:23:56 <BenediktKaempgen> ... people might be surprised that not much has changed
15:24:13 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: enough open discussion
15:24:26 <BenediktKaempgen> olyerickson: yes, there was some discussion
15:24:43 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: waht does the deadline mean?
15:24:47 <George> that's a semic.eu deadline i believe
15:25:11 <BenediktKaempgen> olyerickson: put something readable on W3C page
15:25:26 <gatemezin> s/waht/what
15:25:47 <BenediktKaempgen> action-25 
15:25:49 <bhyland> https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/25
15:26:21 <BenediktKaempgen> George: part of data.gov discussion. 
15:26:33 <BenediktKaempgen> Relevant to procurement section, therefore included.
15:26:51 <BenediktKaempgen> ... Should be easy for Richard to recapture
15:27:02 <olyerickson> Re DCAT discussions, see e.g. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Dec/thread.html
15:27:28 <BenediktKaempgen> action-26 - what does it mean?
15:27:37 <sandro> action-26?
15:27:37 <trackbot> ACTION-26 -- Bernadette Hyland to pull the list of things to check and notify the group -- due 2011-12-15 -- OPEN
15:27:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/26
15:27:39 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: maybe f2f?
15:28:02 <BenediktKaempgen> ... scribes please create understandable action items
15:28:03 <olyerickson> ... notice the dcat:language thread
15:28:15 <BenediktKaempgen> topic: Community Directory update
15:28:18 <bhyland> http://dir.w3.org/
15:28:26 <gatemezin> action-26: not understanding what does it mean...
15:28:27 <trackbot> ACTION-26 Pull the list of things to check and notify the group notes added
15:28:33 <bhyland> Stats on community directory, http://dir.w3.org/page/number-of-organizations-by-country.xhtml?view
15:28:44 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: stats are interesting
15:29:08 <BenediktKaempgen> ... information about deployments is not necessarily understandable 
15:29:19 <BenediktKaempgen> ... more feedback appreciated
15:29:26 <BenediktKaempgen> ... ?? is much into it
15:29:57 <BenediktKaempgen> ... aim - vibrant list of what each one in the group is doing
15:30:10 <bhyland> Someone suggested adding this, http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/latc/toollibrary/
15:30:31 <BenediktKaempgen> ... maybe maintained by DERI folks?
15:31:01 <George> chris bizer - most of these tools appear to be what's in http://stack.lod2.eu
15:31:09 <BenediktKaempgen> ... makes it sense to reach out to them?
15:31:35 <BenediktKaempgen> up to 200 companies that do something with Linked Data
15:32:11 <BenediktKaempgen> George: thinks, yes.
15:32:17 <BenediktKaempgen> olyerickson: yes
15:32:18 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary
15:32:27 <gatemezin> +1
15:32:32 <BenediktKaempgen> Topic: Best Practices update
15:32:58 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: please make clear if you work on the wiki. Provide links and update.
15:33:33 <BenediktKaempgen> mike: give preliminary overview. During next weeks. John Sherridon will be asked.
15:33:53 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: John Sherridon will have a lot to say about this.
15:34:01 <bhyland> s/Sherridon/Sheridan
15:34:34 <BenediktKaempgen> s/mike/Mike_Pendleton
15:34:48 <BenediktKaempgen> suptopic: Vocabulary Selection update
15:35:06 <gatemezin> q+
15:35:07 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: anything happening with this? 
15:35:15 <BenediktKaempgen> ... none on the call
15:35:30 <BenediktKaempgen> subtopic: URI Construction update
15:35:42 <bhyland> subtopic: Stability, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.5_Stability
15:35:43 <gatemezin> Zakim, unmeted raphael
15:35:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'unmeted raphael', gatemezin
15:36:03 <gatemezin> Zakim, raphael unmuted
15:36:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'raphael unmuted', gatemezin
15:36:04 <BenediktKaempgen> Ron: Trying to figure out what is missing.
15:36:16 <BenediktKaempgen> ... problem space needs to be defined
15:36:48 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: does rather look like a draft not descriptive enough
15:36:50 <gatemezin> Zakim, who is muted?
15:36:50 <Zakim> I see raphael, martin muted
15:37:15 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: any guidance?
15:37:32 <bhyland> Ron referred to another page, I think it is http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Stability
15:38:03 <bhyland> Includes discussion of "conservation", "preservation of access" and "preservation of content"
15:38:19 <George> is this http://www.mementoweb.org/ relevant?
15:38:26 <BenediktKaempgen> Ron: topics - conservation, preservation of access, preservation of content 
15:38:36 <bhyland> q?
15:38:42 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: sounds good.
15:39:03 <bhyland> Recommend you look at this page for ideas on suggesting best practices, http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-mwabp-20101214/
15:39:31 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: has been useful for the cook book also
15:40:27 <BenediktKaempgen> ... really short but gives good pointers
15:40:48 <BenediktKaempgen> ... a starting point
15:41:05 <BenediktKaempgen> Ron: Struggling rather with organisation and writing in descriptive manner
15:41:09 <bhyland> q?
15:41:12 <BenediktKaempgen> than with the content.
15:41:23 <gatemezin> q+
15:41:28 <bhyland> ack gatemezin
15:41:35 <sandro> zakim, who is muted?
15:41:35 <Zakim> I see raphael, martin muted
15:41:45 <gatemezin> who can unmuted me?
15:41:59 <olyerickson> +1 to format in http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/REC-mwabp-20101214/
15:42:13 <gatemezin> please asgain?
15:42:23 <George> press 4 1 #
15:42:45 <gatemezin> sorry... 
15:42:52 <BenediktKaempgen> subtopic: Cook book
15:43:01 <BenediktKaempgen> hyland: boris and I have added something
15:43:11 <BenediktKaempgen> topic: Schedule & milestones review
15:43:14 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter
15:43:30 <gatemezin> zakim, who is muted?
15:43:30 <Zakim> I see raphael, martin muted
15:43:33 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: Some things to do in December.
15:44:18 <BenediktKaempgen> ... bhyland: f2f in January. Anyone wants to comment?
15:44:23 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/charter#timeline
15:44:41 <BenediktKaempgen> ... Someone wants to share thoughts?
15:44:54 <MacTed> MacTed has joined #gld
15:44:54 <BenediktKaempgen> George: Middle ground regarding size. 
15:45:09 <bhyland> That is Sandro speaking, not George
15:45:17 <BenediktKaempgen> ... Difficult to balance.
15:45:24 <gatemezin> s/George/Sandro
15:45:28 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks
15:45:32 <bhyland> np
15:45:55 <BenediktKaempgen> ??: did not know what to expect
15:45:59 <GeraldSteeman> All new to me as well.  Not sure where to plug in.
15:46:02 <sandro> s/??/DanG/
15:46:05 <bhyland> DanG: RE: making progress & meeting deliverables, I haven't been one of these before & don't know what to expect
15:46:16 <olyerickson> I think it's about what I expected...simply dealing with multiple time demands
15:47:14 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: more often technical aspects, which helps with guidance. This is quite a different WG.
15:47:30 <olyerickson> I do think that "critical mass" is an issue, since the group has several important deliverables and they only slightly overlap, thus requiring multiple sub-groups/teams working on individual tasks
15:47:33 <BenediktKaempgen> ... we have a lot of invited experts. 
15:47:45 <Yigal> Same here.  I haven't been that involved -- but my intention was to become better acquainted with this community, and to find places where I *can* contribute.
15:48:16 <BenediktKaempgen> ... More about pulling things together and checking whether up-to-date.
15:48:36 <BenediktKaempgen> ... Trying less to create new things. 
15:49:00 <BenediktKaempgen> ... Recommends all to put together efforts. People are looking for help with Linked Data.
15:49:03 <sandro> q?
15:49:37 <BenediktKaempgen> Sandro: Are there people on the call that do not know where to help?
15:50:16 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: cendi talk or similar are very useful for the group. 
15:50:38 <BenediktKaempgen> ... encourages all to make available such information
15:50:53 <GeraldSteeman> Will do.
15:51:00 <gatemezin> Who is Cendi? any pointer?
15:51:30 <GeraldSteeman> http://cendi.gov
15:51:51 <gatemezin> @GeralSteeman: Thanks 
15:52:02 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: cendi is user's group of it people that are interested in preservation of science information
15:52:22 <BenediktKaempgen> ... very interesting use cases. bhyland gave talk about rdf. 
15:52:27 <GeraldSteeman> http://cendi.gov/minutes/pa_1111.html
15:52:32 <tgheen> @bernadette: Walt Warnick at Dept of Energy still wants to talk to you
15:52:38 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F2
15:52:47 <BenediktKaempgen> topic: F2F2 Plans
15:53:23 <gatemezin> ??: not have an answer today
15:53:46 <BenediktKaempgen> DanG: Need to start F2F very early morning. Caviat. May make offer untenable.
15:54:02 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: maybe start f2f later
15:54:07 <gatemezin> s/??/DanG
15:54:28 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: 5 hour time difference is a problem
15:54:45 <BenediktKaempgen> DanG: Security is not an issue. 
15:55:06 <BenediktKaempgen> DanG: tries to have a resolution today.
15:55:13 <bhyland> ACTION: DanG to confirm when US Bureau of Labor Stats can be open for our meeting
15:55:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-27 - Confirm when US Bureau of Labor Stats can be open for our meeting [on Dan Gillman - due 2011-12-22].
15:56:13 <Yigal> What is the address for the BLS, by the way?
15:56:31 <bhyland> It is work on the part of the hosts so we should confirm attendance, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F2#Who
15:56:35 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: Anyone interested to confirm that he/she will be there?
15:56:56 <BenediktKaempgen> Benedikt will be at DERI.
15:56:59 <gatemezin> I confirm that I'll be there...
15:57:22 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: community building would be very helpful for deliverables.
15:57:27 <gatemezin> My organization needs the agenda for administrative protocole
15:57:59 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: versioning, legacy part in charter needs to be better framed.
15:58:22 <cygri> cygri has joined #gld
15:58:25 <BenediktKaempgen> ... will be taking it to the mailing list
15:58:35 <olyerickson> No announcements at this time ;) 
15:58:47 <gatemezin> So, finally we meet next week?
15:59:11 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: many calls 
15:59:25 <gatemezin> +1
15:59:26 <sandro> I can make it
15:59:33 <GeraldSteeman> i can
15:59:37 <gatemezin> I can
15:59:38 <BenediktKaempgen> I cannot, sorry.
15:59:49 <olyerickson> I can make it to the call
16:00:19 <Mike_Pendleton> I can make it
16:00:22 <BenediktKaempgen> bhyland: We will have a call next week. Half a dozen people is good.
16:01:12 <BenediktKaempgen> ... lots of things discuss (f2f, f2f venue, framing of charter topics)
16:01:34 <gatemezin> thanks!!
16:01:39 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks!
16:01:39 <Yigal> Yigal has left #gld
16:01:40 <rreck> bubye
16:01:58 <Zakim> -Mike_Pendleton
16:02:01 <Zakim> -martin
16:02:03 <Zakim> -olyerickson
16:02:04 <bhyland> DanG: Please add name of any hotel that may have gov't rate on offer, you can update http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F2
16:02:05 <Zakim> -DanG
16:02:07 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
16:02:07 <bhyland> thanks
16:02:11 <Zakim> -DruidSmith_
16:02:15 <Zakim> -luisbermudez
16:02:19 <Zakim> -Yigal
16:02:21 <Zakim> -George
16:02:22 <Zakim> -sandro
16:02:24 <olyerickson> Bye!
16:02:25 <Zakim> -tgheen
16:02:26 <bhyland> Benedikt, do you need any help with writing the minutes?  
16:02:27 <Zakim> -bhyland
16:02:28 <olyerickson> olyerickson has left #GLD
16:02:31 <Zakim> -rreck
16:02:33 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman
16:02:37 <Zakim> -raphael
16:02:42 <BenediktKaempgen> maybe, thanks for asking. I am about to try it.
16:03:01 <bhyland> See http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.12.15#Scribe.27s_End_of_Meeting_Checklist
16:03:04 <bhyland> for instructions
16:03:21 <bhyland> I'm here if you need any help ...
16:03:29 <bhyland> or have any trouble ...
16:03:31 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks
16:04:18 <BenediktKaempgen> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:04:34 <BenediktKaempgen> RRSAgent, generate minutes 
16:04:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/12/15-gld-minutes.html BenediktKaempgen
16:06:10 <gatemezin> rrsagent, bye
16:06:10 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/15-gld-actions.rdf :
16:06:10 <RRSAgent> ACTION: DanG to confirm when US Bureau of Labor Stats can be open for our meeting [1]
16:06:10 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/12/15-gld-irc#T15-55-13