14:31:35 RRSAgent has joined #rd 14:31:35 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/12/05-rd-irc 14:32:19 zakim, this will be 7394 14:32:19 ok, shadi; I see WAI_RDWG(Symposium)8:00AM scheduled to start 92 minutes ago 14:33:04 chair: Giorgio Brajnik, Markel Vigo, Joshue O'Connor 14:33:10 scribe: shadi 14:37:53 carlos has joined #rd 14:37:55 markel has joined #rd 14:38:26 hi everyone 14:39:45 WAI_RDWG(Symposium)8:00AM has now started 14:39:47 +??P10 14:40:59 Mario has joined #rd 14:41:55 -??P10 14:41:56 WAI_RDWG(Symposium)8:00AM has ended 14:41:56 Attendees were 14:45:55 giorgio has joined #rd 14:46:36 WAI_RDWG(Symposium)8:00AM has now started 14:46:43 +??P0 14:47:00 +Giorgio_Brajnik (was ??P0) 14:47:17 +[IPcaller] 14:47:39 +Shadi_Abou-Zahra (was [IPcaller]) 14:47:58 +??P12 14:48:02 zakim, unmute me 14:48:02 Shadi_Abou-Zahra should no longer be muted 14:49:05 +??P13 14:49:18 +Markel_Vigo (was ??P13) 14:49:57 hi there 14:50:01 shadi, can you hear me? 14:50:31 +??P8 14:50:47 I have one question 14:50:56 i thought that chairs were not. i'll wait. 14:51:01 -??P8 14:51:01 it seems that not everybody uploaded the slides 14:51:22 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:51:22 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik (muted), Shadi_Abou-Zahra, ??P12 (muted), Markel_Vigo (muted) 14:51:38 can we test the mics? 14:51:39 +??P15 14:51:39 zakim, unmute giorgio 14:51:40 Giorgio_Brajnik should no longer be muted 14:51:43 zakim, unmute markel 14:51:43 Markel_Vigo should no longer be muted 14:51:44 +Jon_Gunderson 14:51:55 i can hear you 14:52:30 +??P8 14:52:39 +Jon_Gunderson.a (was Jon_Gunderson) 14:52:54 +Annika_Nietzio (was ??P8) 14:53:19 +??P7 14:53:28 markel, i think speakers will present without slides. 14:53:37 +Christos_Kouroupetroglou (was ??P7) 14:53:48 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:53:50 -Annika_Nietzio 14:53:53 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, ??P12 (muted), Markel_Vigo, ??P15 (muted), Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted) 14:53:55 gb, yes there is no other option I can see 14:53:59 +Ramón_Corominas (was ??P15) 14:54:01 +Shawn 14:54:09 +Shawn_Henry (was Shawn) 14:54:58 +??P18 14:55:08 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:55:08 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, ??P12 (muted), Markel_Vigo, Ramón_Corominas (muted), Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry 14:55:11 ... (muted), ??P18 (muted) 14:55:15 +Detlev 14:55:20 +Ramón_Corominas.a (was Ramón_Corominas) 14:55:23 +Annika_Nietzio (was ??P18) 14:55:27 Joshue108 has joined #rd 14:55:35 +Detlev_Fischer (was Detlev) 14:55:37 +Jim_Allan 14:55:51 -Ramón_Corominas.a 14:56:15 +??P15 14:56:32 -??P12 14:56:33 +Ramón_Corominas (was ??P15) 14:56:44 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:56:44 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 14:56:48 ... Detlev_Fischer (muted), Jim_Allan (muted), Ramón_Corominas (muted) 14:56:58 vivienne has joined #rd 14:57:13 +[IPcaller] 14:57:49 -Ramón_Corominas 14:58:16 +??P22 14:58:19 -[IPcaller] 14:58:24 +??P15 14:58:32 +??P25 14:58:38 -??P22 14:58:53 zakim, who is on the phone? 14:58:53 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 14:58:56 shadi, silvia mirri is telling me via emil that she'sunable to call the normal telephone number. 14:58:56 ... Detlev_Fischer (muted), Jim_Allan (muted), ??P15 (muted), ??P25 (muted) 14:59:00 +Mario 14:59:14 +[IPcaller] 14:59:24 shadi, is there anything wrong with that number? 14:59:29 +Ramón_Corominas (was ??P15) 14:59:30 +Vivienne_Conway (was [IPcaller]) 14:59:36 I told her to get hold of a sip phone ... 14:59:49 +Maia_Naftali (was ??P25) 14:59:57 +Detlev_Fischer.a (was Detlev_Fischer) 15:00:03 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:00:06 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:00:10 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan (muted), Ramón_Corominas (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted) 15:00:17 +Jim_Allan.a (was Jim_Allan) 15:00:25 +Mario_Batusic (was Mario) 15:00:33 hi everyone! i dont know if i'm connected 15:00:37 +Ramón_Corominas.a (was Ramón_Corominas) 15:01:36 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:01:36 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:01:40 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.a (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted) 15:03:49 +??P28 15:04:15 +[IPcaller] 15:04:15 zakim, code? 15:04:17 the conference code is 7394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), shadi 15:04:19 -??P28 15:04:33 shadi, did you get messages that the +1 ... number has some issues? 15:04:33 +??P28 15:04:44 +Carlos_A._Velasco (was ??P28) 15:05:05 -Carlos_A._Velasco 15:05:15 -[IPcaller] 15:05:22 +[IPcaller] 15:05:28 +??P28 15:05:38 +Carlos_A._Velasco (was ??P28) 15:05:48 +[IPcaller.a] 15:06:09 +??P30 15:06:21 +Yeliz_Yesilada (was ??P30) 15:06:51 yeliz has joined #rd 15:06:54 zakim, ??P30 is Joshue108 15:06:58 I already had ??P30 as Yeliz_Yesilada, Joshue108 15:06:59 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:06:59 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:07:02 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.a (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller] (muted), 15:07:05 ... Carlos_A._Velasco (muted), [IPcaller.a] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted) 15:07:22 +Tim_Boland 15:07:35 +Tim_Boland.a (was Tim_Boland) 15:07:40 +Ramón_Corominas.aa (was Ramón_Corominas.a) 15:07:43 zakim, [IPcaller.a] is Joshue108 15:07:43 +Joshue108; got it 15:07:51 +Carlos_A._Velasco.a (was Carlos_A._Velasco) 15:07:58 + +1.415.298.aaaa 15:08:38 +Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (was Carlos_A._Velasco.a) 15:08:39 - +1.415.298.aaaa 15:08:47 +Tim_Boland.aa (was Tim_Boland.a) 15:08:51 + +1.615.597.aabb 15:09:13 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:09:13 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:09:16 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller] (muted), 15:09:19 ... Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), Joshue108 (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted) 15:09:22 + +1.415.298.aacc 15:09:41 +[IPcaller.a] 15:09:48 + +1.416.910.aadd 15:09:50 +Amy_Chen (was +1.415.298.aacc) 15:10:08 + +45.33.36.aaee 15:10:16 +Chad_Szymanski (was +1.416.910.aadd) 15:10:19 +David_Sloan (was [IPcaller.a]) 15:10:26 +[IPcaller.a] 15:10:31 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:10:31 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:10:35 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller] (muted), 15:10:38 ... Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), Joshue108 (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Chad_Szymanski 15:10:40 ... (muted), +45.33.36.aaee (muted), [IPcaller.a] (muted) 15:10:42 +Helene_Nørgaard_Bech (was +45.33.36.aaee) 15:10:42 -Chad_Szymanski 15:10:59 +Silvia_Mirri (was [IPcaller.a]) 15:11:15 + +1.416.910.aaff 15:11:21 + +33.9.72.11.aagg 15:11:44 +Matthieu_FAURE (was +33.9.72.11.aagg) 15:11:57 +Chad_Szymanski (was +1.416.910.aaff) 15:12:15 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:12:15 -Matthieu_FAURE 15:12:17 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:12:21 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller] (muted), 15:12:24 ... Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), Joshue108 (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen (muted), David_Sloan (muted), 15:12:26 ... Helene_Nørgaard_Bech (muted), Silvia_Mirri (muted), Chad_Szymanski (muted) 15:12:28 +[IPcaller.a] 15:12:45 + +91.20.24.22.aahh 15:12:58 +Sabine_Moebs (was [IPcaller.a]) 15:12:59 +??P44 15:12:59 -Sabine_Moebs 15:13:04 + +33.9.72.11.aaii 15:13:14 ok 15:13:19 - +91.20.24.22.aahh 15:13:22 i'm ready 15:13:35 +Sylvie_Duchateau (was ??P44) 15:13:36 +Matthieu_FAURE (was +33.9.72.11.aaii) 15:13:50 -Sylvie_Duchateau 15:13:52 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:13:52 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:13:56 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller] (muted), 15:14:02 ... Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), Joshue108 (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen (muted), David_Sloan (muted), 15:14:04 ... Helene_Nørgaard_Bech (muted), Silvia_Mirri (muted), Chad_Szymanski (muted), Matthieu_FAURE (muted) 15:14:06 + +91.20.24.22.aajj 15:14:20 +[IPcaller.a] 15:14:42 +Amy_Chen.a (was Amy_Chen) 15:14:51 + +1.416.229.aakk 15:15:59 +??P45 15:16:48 +Sylvie_Duchateau (was ??P45) 15:16:52 +??P49 15:17:34 +[IPcaller.aa] 15:17:56 + +1.540.568.aall 15:18:32 zakim, unmute Joshue 15:18:32 Joshue108 should no longer be muted 15:18:57 + +1.312.450.aamm 15:20:02 :-) 15:20:20 + +1.512.689.aann 15:21:16 +[IPcaller.aaa] 15:21:40 zakim, unmute maia_naftali 15:21:40 Maia_Naftali should no longer be muted 15:21:57 yes! 15:22:25 +??P52 15:22:48 +James_Bailey (was [IPcaller.aaa]) 15:22:54 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:22:54 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:22:57 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aa (muted), Maia_Naftali, Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller] (muted), 15:23:00 ... Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), Joshue108, Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen.a (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Helene_Nørgaard_Bech 15:23:05 ... (muted), Silvia_Mirri (muted), Chad_Szymanski (muted), Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +91.20.24.22.aajj (muted), [IPcaller.a] (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau 15:23:09 ... (muted), ??P49 (muted), [IPcaller.aa] (muted), +1.540.568.aall (muted), +1.312.450.aamm (muted), +1.512.689.aann (muted), James_Bailey (muted), ??P52 (muted) 15:23:12 +Nádia_Fernandes (was ??P52) 15:23:26 -[IPcaller] 15:23:34 speaker is not audible 15:23:44 We cannot hear the speaker well 15:24:13 +[IPcaller] 15:24:22 it also says "(Inaudible) " in the captions 15:24:36 zakim, Joshue108 is [IPcaller] 15:24:36 +[IPcaller]; got it 15:24:43 zakim, who is making noise? 15:24:50 zakim, mute me 15:24:50 sorry, Joshue108, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you 15:24:54 shawn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Maia_Naftali (50%), [IPcaller.aaa] (42%) 15:24:59 Ralph has joined #rd 15:25:01 It's a terrible connection braking all the time. 15:25:05 zakim, mute ipcaller.aaa 15:25:05 [IPcaller.aaa] should now be muted 15:25:27 -[IPcaller] 15:25:33 christos has joined #rd 15:25:49 Ralph has left #rd 15:27:44 + +35191408aaoo 15:27:44 +[IPcaller] 15:27:55 +Jorge_Fernandes (was +35191408aaoo) 15:28:12 zakim, mute maia_naftali 15:28:12 Maia_Naftali should now be muted 15:28:38 zakim, unmute silvia 15:28:38 Silvia_Mirri should no longer be muted 15:29:43 zakim, unmute silvia 15:29:43 Silvia_Mirri was not muted, shadi 15:30:58 -[IPcaller.aa] 15:31:17 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:31:17 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:31:21 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), 15:31:26 ... [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen.a (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Helene_Nørgaard_Bech (muted), 15:31:30 ... Silvia_Mirri, Chad_Szymanski (muted), Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +91.20.24.22.aajj (muted), [IPcaller.a] (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), ??P49 (muted), 15:31:34 ... +1.540.568.aall (muted), +1.312.450.aamm (muted), +1.512.689.aann (muted), James_Bailey (muted), Nádia_Fernandes (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), [IPcaller] (muted) 15:31:39 +??P46 15:31:43 -Helene_Nørgaard_Bech 15:32:40 -Nádia_Fernandes 15:32:57 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:32:57 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:33:00 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), 15:33:04 ... [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen.a (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Silvia_Mirri, Chad_Szymanski (muted), 15:33:09 ... Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +91.20.24.22.aajj (muted), [IPcaller.a] (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), ??P49 (muted), +1.540.568.aall (muted), 15:33:12 ... +1.312.450.aamm (muted), +1.512.689.aann (muted), James_Bailey (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), [IPcaller] (muted), ??P46 (muted) 15:35:18 +??P11 15:35:24 zakim, mute silvia 15:35:24 Silvia_Mirri should now be muted 15:35:31 +Nádia_Fernandes (was ??P11) 15:35:58 +Ramón_Corominas.aaa (was Ramón_Corominas.aa) 15:36:01 +James_Carter (was +1.540.568.aall) 15:36:06 -[IPcaller.a] 15:36:06 zakim, unmute nadia 15:36:07 sorry, shadi, I do not know which phone connection belongs to nadia 15:36:12 -??P46 15:36:13 +Nathan_Hinshaw (was +1.312.450.aamm) 15:36:20 +Amy_Chen.aa (was Amy_Chen.a) 15:36:24 zakim, unmute Nádia_Fernandes 15:36:24 Nádia_Fernandes should no longer be muted 15:36:26 +[IPcaller.a] 15:36:34 +[IPcaller.aa] 15:36:39 +Sabine_Moebs (was [IPcaller.a]) 15:36:42 Does Nadia has slides? 15:36:52 the link is wrong 15:36:54 - +1.512.689.aann 15:36:56 +Luz_Rello (was [IPcaller.aa]) 15:36:57 -Luz_Rello 15:37:10 the link for nadia's slides is wrong 15:37:20 -Sabine_Moebs 15:37:22 +[IPcaller.a] 15:37:24 it goes to paper5 slides 15:37:34 -[IPcaller] 15:37:42 +Luz_Rello (was [IPcaller.a]) 15:37:52 +??P36 15:37:58 JAllan has joined #rd 15:38:11 zakim, ??P36 is Joshue108 15:38:11 +Joshue108; got it 15:38:20 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:38:20 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:38:24 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aaa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), 15:38:30 ... [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen.aa (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Silvia_Mirri (muted), Chad_Szymanski 15:38:37 ... (muted), Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +91.20.24.22.aajj (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), ??P49 (muted), James_Carter (muted), Nathan_Hinshaw (muted), 15:38:43 ... James_Bailey (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), Nádia_Fernandes, Luz_Rello (muted), Joshue108 (muted) 15:38:46 sorry, this speaker is almost inaudible to me 15:39:23 the slides http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2011/metrics/paper5/slides.html are for Lexical Quality as a Measure for Textual Web Accessibility 15:40:57 zakim, mute Nádia_Fernandes 15:40:57 Nádia_Fernandes should now be muted 15:41:44 zakim, unmute silvia 15:41:44 Silvia_Mirri should no longer be muted 15:41:46 +??P53 15:41:58 +Simon_Harper (was ??P53) 15:42:39 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:42:39 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:42:42 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aaa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), 15:42:46 ... [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen.aa (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Silvia_Mirri, Chad_Szymanski (muted), 15:42:50 ... Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +91.20.24.22.aajj (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), ??P49 (muted), James_Carter (muted), Nathan_Hinshaw (muted), James_Bailey 15:42:53 ... (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), Nádia_Fernandes (muted), Luz_Rello (muted), Joshue108 (muted), Simon_Harper (muted) 15:43:39 sharper has joined #rd 15:44:15 +[IPcaller] 15:44:34 +Sabine_Moebs (was [IPcaller]) 15:46:17 zakim, mute silvia 15:46:17 Silvia_Mirri should now be muted 15:46:18 We could hear Silvia really well 15:46:48 zakim, unmute luz_rello 15:46:48 Luz_Rello should no longer be muted 15:50:49 -Nádia_Fernandes 15:51:20 +??P11 15:51:28 +Nádia_Fernandes (was ??P11) 15:52:37 zakim, mute luz_rello 15:52:37 Luz_Rello should now be muted 15:54:14 zakim, who is on the phone? 15:54:14 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 15:54:17 ... Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aaa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), Carlos_A._Velasco.aa (muted), 15:54:22 ... [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), Tim_Boland.aa (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen.aa (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Silvia_Mirri (muted), Chad_Szymanski 15:54:26 ... (muted), Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +91.20.24.22.aajj (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), ??P49 (muted), James_Carter (muted), Nathan_Hinshaw (muted), 15:54:31 ... James_Bailey (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), Luz_Rello (muted), Joshue108 (muted), Simon_Harper (muted), Sabine_Moebs (muted), Nádia_Fernandes (muted) 15:54:50 shadi, there's no chance to go beyond 17:00 uk time, right? 15:55:18 not really 15:55:31 if so, shall we compact the panel asking participants to give us a quick anser (10-15 min all toghether) 15:55:38 besides the phone bridge, some people may have schedules that do not permit them to stay 15:55:41 and then opening questions to the floor? 15:55:49 that's a problem as we started 15m late... 15:56:05 yes, i hope we can do 20 minutes panel + 20 minutes opne Q&A 15:57:51 -??P49 15:58:37 -Carlos_A._Velasco.aa 15:58:59 zakim, unmute detlev 15:58:59 Detlev_Fischer.a should no longer be muted 15:59:10 yes, perfect 15:59:11 :) 15:59:12 -Tim_Boland.aa 16:00:47 zakim, who is on the phone? 16:00:47 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio (muted), 16:00:50 ... Detlev_Fischer.a, Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aaa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada 16:00:55 ... (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), Amy_Chen.aa (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Silvia_Mirri (muted), Chad_Szymanski (muted), Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +91.20.24.22.aajj (muted), 16:00:59 ... +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), James_Carter (muted), Nathan_Hinshaw (muted), James_Bailey (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), Luz_Rello (muted), Joshue108 16:01:02 ... (muted), Simon_Harper (muted), Sabine_Moebs (muted), Nádia_Fernandes (muted) 16:04:15 zakim, mute detlev 16:04:15 Detlev_Fischer.a should now be muted 16:05:00 zakim, unmute jorge 16:05:00 Jorge_Fernandes should no longer be muted 16:06:08 -Sabine_Moebs 16:09:37 -Amy_Chen.aa 16:10:43 zakim, mute jorge 16:10:43 Jorge_Fernandes should now be muted 16:16:16 zakim, unmute david_sloan 16:16:16 David_Sloan should no longer be muted 16:20:42 +[IPcaller] 16:21:02 +Sabine_Moebs (was [IPcaller]) 16:21:19 -Shadi_Abou-Zahra 16:21:26 zakim, unmute me 16:21:26 Shawn_Henry should no longer be muted 16:21:30 zakim, mute david_sloan 16:21:30 David_Sloan should now be muted 16:21:37 zakim, unmute annika 16:21:37 Annika_Nietzio should no longer be muted 16:21:39 zakim, mute me 16:21:39 Shawn_Henry should now be muted 16:22:35 zakim, unmute me 16:22:36 Shawn_Henry should no longer be muted 16:23:00 zakim, mute me 16:23:00 Shawn_Henry should now be muted 16:24:23 -Chad_Szymanski 16:24:55 - +91.20.24.22.aajj 16:29:36 +Shadi 16:30:04 shadi, are you back? 16:32:00 zakim, unmute me 16:32:00 Shawn_Henry should no longer be muted 16:35:12 zakim, unmute Maia 16:35:12 Maia_Naftali should no longer be muted 16:35:27 Yes! 16:35:51 zakim, mute me 16:35:51 Shawn_Henry should now be muted 16:37:09 zakim, unmute silvia 16:37:09 Silvia_Mirri should no longer be muted 16:37:09 zakim, mute maia_naftali 16:37:10 Maia_Naftali should now be muted 16:39:16 zakim, unmute Nádia_Fernandes 16:39:16 zakim, mute silvia 16:39:16 sorry, shawn, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Nádia_Fernandes 16:39:18 Silvia_Mirri should now be muted 16:39:29 zakim, unmute Nadia 16:39:29 sorry, shawn, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Nadia 16:39:37 zakim, who is here? 16:39:37 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry (muted), Annika_Nietzio, Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), 16:39:41 ... Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aaa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Vivienne_Conway (muted), [IPcaller.aaa] (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), 16:39:46 ... +1.615.597.aabb (muted), David_Sloan (muted), Silvia_Mirri (muted), Matthieu_FAURE (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), James_Carter (muted), 16:39:49 ... Nathan_Hinshaw (muted), James_Bailey (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), Luz_Rello (muted), Joshue108 (muted), Simon_Harper (muted), Nádia_Fernandes (muted), Sabine_Moebs 16:39:53 ... (muted), Shadi 16:39:54 On IRC I see sharper, JAllan, christos, yeliz, vivienne, Joshue108, giorgio, Mario, markel, carlos, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn, Maia, Mate, nonge, trackbot 16:39:59 zakim, unmute Nádia_Fernandes 16:39:59 sorry, shawn, I do not know which phone connection belongs to Nádia_Fernandes 16:40:08 -Sabine_Moebs 16:40:32 -Nathan_Hinshaw 16:40:32 zakim, unmute Luz_Rello 16:40:33 Luz_Rello should no longer be muted 16:41:51 zakim, mute Luz_Rello 16:41:51 Luz_Rello should now be muted 16:41:51 zakim, unmute detlev 16:41:52 Detlev_Fischer.a should no longer be muted 16:42:03 zakim, unmute me 16:42:03 Shawn_Henry should no longer be muted 16:44:18 -[IPcaller.aaa] 16:44:28 zakim, mute detlev 16:44:28 Detlev_Fischer.a should now be muted 16:44:51 zakim, mute Annika 16:44:51 Annika_Nietzio should now be muted 16:45:15 -Matthieu_FAURE 16:47:05 - me 16:47:14 - Vivienne_Conway 16:47:18 vivienne has left #rd 16:47:39 -Vivienne_Conway 16:47:45 Zakim, unmute Annika_Nietzio 16:47:45 Annika_Nietzio should no longer be muted 16:51:37 zakim, mute Annika 16:51:37 Annika_Nietzio should now be muted 16:51:47 zakim, unmute david_sloan 16:51:47 David_Sloan should no longer be muted 16:51:56 Yes! 16:53:47 -Nádia_Fernandes 16:56:37 zakim, who is on the phone? 16:56:37 On the phone I see Giorgio_Brajnik, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson.a (muted), Christos_Kouroupetroglou (muted), Shawn_Henry, Annika_Nietzio (muted), Detlev_Fischer.a (muted), 16:56:41 ... Jim_Allan.a (muted), Ramón_Corominas.aaa (muted), Maia_Naftali (muted), Mario_Batusic (muted), Yeliz_Yesilada (muted), +1.615.597.aabb (muted), David_Sloan, Silvia_Mirri 16:56:46 ... (muted), +1.416.229.aakk (muted), Sylvie_Duchateau (muted), James_Carter (muted), James_Bailey (muted), Jorge_Fernandes (muted), Luz_Rello (muted), Joshue108 (muted), 16:56:49 ... Simon_Harper (muted), Shadi 16:57:54 zakim, mute david_sloan 16:57:54 David_Sloan should now be muted 16:58:21 zakim, unmute Jon 16:58:21 Jon_Gunderson.a should no longer be muted 16:59:31 ack jon 16:59:36 zakim,unmute me 16:59:36 Joshue108 should no longer be muted 16:59:39 zakim, mute Jon 16:59:39 Jon_Gunderson.a should now be muted 17:00:01 +q 17:00:08 ack ann 17:01:39 ack josh 17:01:39 ack me 17:01:44 zakim, mute Annika_Nietzio 17:01:44 Annika_Nietzio should now be muted 17:01:50 yes, we can 17:02:43 reminder: dial 41# to get on speaker queue 17:03:24 q? 17:03:26 zakim, mute me 17:03:26 Joshue108 should now be muted 17:03:39 -Jim_Allan.a 17:03:43 ack simon 17:04:37 zakim, who is making noise 17:04:37 I don't understand 'who is making noise', shawn 17:04:42 zakim, who is making noise? 17:04:45 ack jon 17:04:53 shawn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Giorgio_Brajnik (45%), Markel_Vigo (4%), Jon_Gunderson.a (68%) 17:05:09 zakim, mute Jon 17:05:09 Jon_Gunderson.a should now be muted 17:05:16 zakim, unmute me 17:05:16 Joshue108 should no longer be muted 17:05:37 q+ detlev 17:06:40 zakim, mute me 17:06:42 Joshue108 should now be muted 17:06:44 ack detlev 17:07:02 zakim, mute josh 17:07:02 Joshue108 was already muted, shawn 17:07:11 ack simon 17:07:15 yes! 17:07:30 zakim, who is unmuted? 17:07:30 I don't understand your question, shawn. 17:07:48 zakim, mute detlev 17:07:48 Detlev_Fischer.a should now be muted 17:07:51 -Jon_Gunderson.a 17:08:10 zakim, unmute Luz_Rello 17:08:10 Luz_Rello should no longer be muted 17:08:18 - +1.416.229.aakk 17:08:41 zakim, mute Simon 17:08:41 Simon_Harper should now be muted 17:09:31 zakim, unmute Simon 17:09:31 Simon_Harper should no longer be muted 17:09:42 q+ 17:09:49 zakim, mute Luz_Rello 17:09:49 Luz_Rello should now be muted 17:09:52 q? 17:09:57 zakim, mute Simon 17:09:57 Simon_Harper should now be muted 17:10:03 ack mar 17:10:58 ack Annika_Nietzio 17:12:07 zakim, unmute Jorge_Fernandes 17:12:07 Jorge_Fernandes should no longer be muted 17:12:25 zakim, mute Annika_Nietzio 17:12:26 Annika_Nietzio should now be muted 17:13:07 q+ Annika 17:14:22 how much time do we have? 17:14:27 I have to go now 17:14:35 I had some questions, but I guess no time to ask 17:15:05 shawn, shall we get annika's question and then close it? 17:15:13 for example "What do people think about the importance of context for metrics"? 17:15:20 yes, I'll ask everybody to send me questions 17:15:47 Giorgio - perhaps suggest people send folloqup questions, and other input to the list 17:16:05 for example, users' tasks, assistive technologies used, devices used (mobile, etc), how would these parameters would effect metric design 17:16:12 and ofcourse evaluation at the end 17:16:23 I think Markel's work addresses this but what about others? 17:16:30 I have to go 17:16:37 ack an 17:16:41 sharper has left #rd 17:16:48 zakim, mute Jorge_Fernandes 17:16:48 Jorge_Fernandes should now be muted 17:17:15 Give out e-mail address for public input 17:17:48 public-wai-rd@w3.org 17:17:50 Thanks Shawn and Shadi :-) 17:17:51 -Detlev_Fischer.a 17:18:05 give out email address maybe: public-wai-rd@w3.org 17:18:27 q+ 17:19:08 quit 17:20:24 bye y'all 17:20:24 -Mario_Batusic 17:20:27 - +1.615.597.aabb 17:20:27 -Giorgio_Brajnik 17:20:28 -Silvia_Mirri 17:20:29 -David_Sloan 17:20:30 -Annika_Nietzio 17:20:31 -Ramón_Corominas.aaa 17:20:31 -Sylvie_Duchateau 17:20:33 -James_Bailey 17:20:39 -Joshue108 17:20:40 -Jorge_Fernandes 17:20:46 -Christos_Kouroupetroglou 17:20:48 markel, can you give a skype call? 17:20:52 -Markel_Vigo 17:21:15 -James_Carter 17:21:17 Goodbye all, see you on the list 17:21:45 zakim, drop Yeliz 17:21:46 Yeliz_Yesilada is being disconnected 17:21:46 -Yeliz_Yesilada 17:21:53 -Maia_Naftali 17:21:54 zakim, drop Luz 17:21:54 Luz_Rello is being disconnected 17:21:56 -Luz_Rello 17:21:59 zakim, drop Simon 17:21:59 Simon_Harper is being disconnected 17:22:00 -Simon_Harper 17:22:05 zakim, drop Maia 17:22:05 sorry, shawn, I do not see a party named 'Maia' 17:22:10 sharper has joined #rd 17:22:16 zakim, drop Maia_Naftali 17:22:16 sorry, shawn, I do not see a party named 'Maia_Naftali' 17:22:20 zakim, who is here? 17:22:20 On the phone I see Shawn_Henry, Shadi 17:22:21 On IRC I see sharper, yeliz, giorgio, RRSAgent, Zakim, shawn, Mate, nonge, trackbot 17:25:10 -Shawn_Henry 17:25:18 -Shadi 17:25:19 WAI_RDWG(Symposium)8:00AM has ended 17:25:21 Attendees were Giorgio_Brajnik, Shadi_Abou-Zahra, Markel_Vigo, Jon_Gunderson, Annika_Nietzio, Christos_Kouroupetroglou, Shawn_Henry, Vivienne_Conway, Maia_Naftali, Detlev_Fischer, 17:25:26 ... Jim_Allan, Mario_Batusic, Ramón_Corominas, Yeliz_Yesilada, Tim_Boland, Carlos_A._Velasco, +1.415.298.aaaa, +1.615.597.aabb, Chad_Szymanski, David_Sloan, Helene_Nørgaard_Bech, 17:25:31 ... Silvia_Mirri, Matthieu_FAURE, +91.20.24.22.aahh, Sabine_Moebs, Sylvie_Duchateau, +91.20.24.22.aajj, Amy_Chen, +1.416.229.aakk, +1.512.689.aann, James_Bailey, Nádia_Fernandes, 17:25:33 ... Jorge_Fernandes, James_Carter, Nathan_Hinshaw, Luz_Rello, Joshue108, Simon_Harper, Shadi 17:26:20 Hi Simon - I assume transcript will be available later 17:26:37 Shadi available by mobile phone, but still no internet connectino due to power outtage 19:30:06 Zakim has left #rd