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15:50:26 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XForms
15:50:26 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_XForms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
15:50:27 <trackbot> Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
15:50:27 <trackbot> Date: 23 November 2011
15:50:39 <Steven> Chair: Steven
15:50:44 <Steven> Scribe: Leigh
15:59:41 <nick> zakim, code?
15:59:41 <Zakim> the conference code is 93676 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), nick
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16:04:09 <alain> zakim, [IPcaller] is alain
16:04:09 <Zakim> +alain; got it
16:04:22 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
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16:06:21 <klotz> nick i had trouble too and redailed
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16:07:06 <Steven> zakim, who is on the call?
16:07:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steven, +1.206.973.aaaa, alain, Leigh_Klotz, John_Boyer
16:07:24 <Steven> zakim, aaaa is pfennell
16:07:24 <Zakim> +pfennell; got it
16:07:43 <Zakim> +??P10
16:07:48 <Zakim> +unl
16:08:12 <klotz> john, who is noisy?
16:08:13 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:08:17 <Steven> zakim, ??P10 is nick
16:08:17 <Zakim> +nick; got it
16:08:30 <unl> zakim, mute me
16:08:30 <Zakim> unl should now be muted
16:09:23 <Zakim> +John_Boyer
16:09:35 <nick> zakim, mute me
16:09:39 <Zakim> nick should now be muted
16:11:47 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Nov/0029.html
16:11:59 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
16:11:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steven, pfennell, alain, Leigh_Klotz, nick (muted), unl (muted), John_Boyer
16:12:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see unl, pfennell, klotz, John_Boyer, alain, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, nick, trackbot
16:12:34 <klotz> http://xformstest.org/agenda-2011-11-23.txt
16:14:20 <Steven> http://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/odf-easter.odt
16:16:26 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Oct/0032.html
16:32:29 <Zakim> -nick
16:32:45 <nick> zakim, code?
16:32:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 93676 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), nick
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16:34:01 <klotz> John: We could say that nodeset is evaluated relative to context.  That might not be what we would choose to do.  I'd like the nodeset to be evaluated relative to what we said the parent was.  It's a point of discussion.  In Nick's XPath spec, we say nodeset and ref (anyway) behave relative to the new context attribute.  Now we're saying that the parent attribute for insert will sit between context and nodeset or ref.  That is a specialized behavior.
16:36:15 <John_Boyer> <insert parent="purchase/order" nodeset="row" ...  this is the special behavior where parent overrides the eval context of nodeset
16:37:02 <John_Boyer> <insert parent="purchase/order" nodeset="purchase/order/row" ...
16:37:28 <John_Boyer> <insert context="purchase/order" parent="." nodeset="row"
16:42:11 <John_Boyer> nodeset is evaluated relative to context but the author can't really tell that it is not being evaluated relative to the "parent"
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16:43:48 <klotz> http://xformstest.org/2011-11-23.txt
16:43:56 <John_Boyer> the name 'parent' makes more sense if the nodeset is evaluated relative to it, but then @parent would create a special exception to the relationship between context and nodeset
16:47:26 <ebruchez> <insert into="…" …>
16:48:21 <Steven> @location
16:48:24 <Steven> @under
16:50:07 <ebruchez> http://www.w3.org/TR/xquery-update-10/#id-upd-insert-into
16:53:54 <klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Oct/0032.html to XForms 2.0 Wiki.  Choose one now, but note that attribute names are TBD.
16:53:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1845 - Boyer to add http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Oct/0032.html to XForms 2.0 Wiki.  Choose one now, but note that attribute names are TBD. [on John Boyer - due 2011-11-30].
16:54:26 <klotz> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2011Nov/0028.html
16:59:26 <klotz> rrsagent, make minutes.
16:59:26 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes.', klotz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:59:29 <Zakim> -Nick_van_den_Bleeken
16:59:29 <klotz> rrsagent, make minutes
16:59:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/23-forms-minutes.html klotz
16:59:30 <Zakim> -unl
16:59:31 <Zakim> -Steven
16:59:32 <Zakim> -ebruchez
16:59:32 <Zakim> -pfennell
16:59:33 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:59:33 <Zakim> -alain
16:59:38 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
16:59:39 <Zakim> IA_XForms()11:00AM has ended
16:59:42 <Zakim> Attendees were Steven, +1.206.973.aaaa, alain, Leigh_Klotz, John_Boyer, pfennell, unl, nick, Nick_van_den_Bleeken, ebruchez
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