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15:15:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
15:15:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 45 minutes
15:15:21 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:15:21 <trackbot> Date: 18 October 2011
15:23:40 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Oct/0038.html
15:23:43 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
15:23:51 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Marcelo
15:24:12 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Boris
15:24:16 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:24:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
15:24:22 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
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15:56:46 <ivan> oops, sorry, did not pay attention
15:56:52 <ivan> some virtual fire fighting
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16:00:17 <mhausenblas> Zakim, IPcaller is joerg 
16:00:17 <Zakim> +joerg; got it
16:00:25 <mhausenblas> present+ Joerg
16:00:34 <mhausenblas> present+ Michael
16:02:54 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
16:02:54 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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16:03:50 <mhausenblas> present+ Dave
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16:05:09 <mhausenblas> present+ Seema
16:06:57 <mhausenblas> scribenick: mhausenblas
16:07:15 <mhausenblas> Topic: Admin
16:07:15 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
16:07:50 <mhausenblas> RESOLVED: Accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/10/11-RDB2RDF-minutes.html
16:08:00 <mhausenblas> Topic: LC comments status
16:08:22 <mhausenblas> Michael: heard from Juan he is on it
16:09:07 <Zakim> +[OpenLink]
16:09:21 <MacTed> Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me
16:09:22 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
16:09:25 <mhausenblas> Souri: there were two more comments (Fabian, Dave)
16:09:30 <mhausenblas> present+ Ted
16:09:36 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
16:09:36 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
16:10:17 <dmcneil> +q
16:10:26 <mhausenblas> ack dmcneil 
16:10:53 <mhausenblas> dmcneil: just wanted to clarify - does this mean you change the note?
16:11:19 <mhausenblas> Souri: yes, change back to the four bullet points unless there are issues with it
16:11:29 <mhausenblas> q?
16:11:52 <mhausenblas> Topic: ISSUE-69
16:11:53 <dmcneil> +q
16:12:13 <MacTed> issue-69?
16:12:13 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel
16:12:29 <mhausenblas> Zakim, this is SW_RDB2RDF
16:12:29 <Zakim> mhausenblas, this was already SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM
16:12:30 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas; that matches SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM
16:12:41 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-69?
16:12:41 <trackbot> ISSUE-69 -- datatype sizes -- raised
16:12:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/69
16:13:23 <mhausenblas> Ashok: why are you converting to string from a number datatype column?
16:13:39 <mhausenblas> Souri: RDF is lexical - default
16:14:37 <mhausenblas> Ashok: seems fairly expansive, but I guess that's what RDF requires
16:14:45 <mhausenblas> Souri: yes
16:15:00 <mhausenblas> Ashok: second question, might require Eric and Richard
16:15:25 <mhausenblas> ... difference was when the number is bigger than what SQL spec says
16:15:39 <mhausenblas> ... didn't see such a discussion in the R2RML spec
16:16:10 <mhausenblas> Souri: I'm not 100% sure but I think it is not there, no
16:16:18 <mhausenblas> q?
16:16:50 <mhausenblas> Souri: Different DB have different capabilities and limitations
16:17:38 <mhausenblas> Ashok: with string, we wouldn't have the limitations, right?
16:18:21 <mhausenblas> ack dmcneil 
16:19:36 <mhausenblas> David: We discussed within Revelytix, if beyond limit it's undefined
16:19:59 <mhausenblas> ... and re 'do we need to enumerate all cases' - would not be necessary
16:20:40 <mhausenblas> Topic: ISSUE-68
16:20:42 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-68?
16:20:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-68 -- Multiple PredicateMaps in a PredicateObjectMap -- raised
16:20:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/68
16:21:54 <mhausenblas> Souri: The question is here really, where do we stop?
16:22:41 <mhausenblas> ... I guess we shouldn't introduce too many shortcuts - introduces more point of failures
16:23:06 <mhausenblas> Dave: Need to dig deeper, but I think I'm with Souri on this one
16:23:16 <ivan> ISSUE-68?
16:23:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-68 -- Multiple PredicateMaps in a PredicateObjectMap -- raised
16:23:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/68
16:23:18 <Souri> POmap: Pmap+ Omap
16:23:31 <Souri> POmap: Pmap Omap
16:24:31 <mhausenblas> Souri: My guess is that it would rather a rare case
16:25:24 <mhausenblas> dmcneil: how do deal with new features?
16:25:46 <mhausenblas> Ivan: only, if it is triggered from a LC comment
16:26:00 <mhausenblas> ... this case is a bit tricky as it comes from within the WG
16:27:31 <mhausenblas> Ivan: should likely have been treated before LC
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16:27:50 <mhausenblas> Michael: Might be something for the F2F to resolve?
16:29:39 <Souri> I am definitely -1 on adding this shortcut (SP(+)O): SPO(+) is a much more common scenario (supported in Turtle, for example)
16:30:06 <Souri> yes, it is a shortcut
16:30:24 <mhausenblas> Ivan: Regardless of the process part, I'm not sure if adding more options is beneficial
16:30:33 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
16:30:37 <mhausenblas> q?
16:31:45 <mhausenblas> Topic: AOB
16:32:08 <mhausenblas> Ivan: might be wise for the chairs to look into CR preparation
16:32:14 <mhausenblas> Michael: I agree
16:32:23 <Ashok> yes
16:32:49 <Zakim> -dmcneil
16:32:50 <Zakim> -Ivan
16:32:50 <Zakim> -Souri
16:32:50 <mhausenblas> [meeting adjourned]
16:32:52 <Zakim> -MacTed
16:32:53 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
16:32:53 <Zakim> -seema
16:32:59 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:32:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/18-RDB2RDF-minutes.html mhausenblas
16:33:03 <Zakim> -joerg
16:33:04 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has ended
16:33:06 <Zakim> Attendees were mhausenblas, joerg, Ivan, dmcneil, Ashok_Malhotra, Souri, seema, MacTed
16:33:11 <juansequeda> meeting over?
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16:33:38 <juansequeda> And I was about to call in!
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