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15:01:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:01:36 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WEBID
15:01:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM already started
15:01:37 <trackbot> Meeting: WebID Incubator Group Teleconference
15:01:37 <trackbot> Date: 03 October 2011
15:01:43 <MacTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:01:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-webid-minutes.html MacTed
15:01:48 <MacTed> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:02:01 <Zakim> +??P9
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15:02:50 <Zakim> +bblfish
15:03:17 <bergi> Zakim, I am +??P9
15:03:17 <Zakim> sorry, bergi, I do not see a party named '+??P9'
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15:03:45 <bblfish> zakim, who is here
15:03:45 <Zakim> bblfish, you need to end that query with '?'
15:03:51 <bblfish> zakim, who is here?
15:03:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see MacTed, ??P9, bblfish
15:03:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see domel, yamalight, RRSAgent, bblfish, magnetik__, MacTed, mischat, Andrei, danbri, bergi, elf-pavlik, trackbot, Zakim
15:04:02 <Zakim> +??P22
15:04:19 <domel> Zakim, I am ??P22
15:04:19 <Zakim> +domel; got it
15:04:54 <bergi> Zakim, I am ??P9
15:04:54 <Zakim> +bergi; got it
15:05:27 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:05:27 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:05:45 <bblfish> zakim, pick a scribe
15:05:45 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose MacTed (muted)
15:06:13 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:06:13 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:06:50 <Zakim> +??P21
15:07:20 <bblfish> http://foafssl.org/test/WebId
15:07:28 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:07:28 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:10:06 <Zakim> +??P24
15:10:09 <bblfish> talking about http://code.google.com/p/mssw/
15:10:15 <Zakim> -??P24
15:10:39 <Zakim> +??P24
15:10:40 <bblfish> Tim Ermilov speaking about WebId browser on Android 
15:10:48 <bblfish> above
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15:12:06 <yamalight> http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/TimofeyErmilov
15:12:57 <bblfish> screenshots are here: http://code.google.com/p/mssw/wiki/Screenshots
15:13:43 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:13:43 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:14:44 <domel> http://www.w3.org/community/rww/
15:15:40 <MacTed> http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtAuthServerUI
15:17:06 <MacTed> http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtAuthPolicyFOAFSSL
15:17:06 <MacTed> these pages are still getting polished, but they may be sufficient for 
15:17:15 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:17:16 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:17:43 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:17:43 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:22:45 <bblfish> WebID on the browsers in the cell phone
15:23:33 <bblfish> Andrei: it is easy to work with them in the browser in the certificate
15:24:57 <bblfish> In the android app there is of course no problem
15:25:35 <MacTed> iOS 5 will be bringing substantial certificate support improvements
15:25:54 <bblfish> problems with browsers:
15:26:18 <bblfish> iphone4 with browser preview is only one that works with WebID
15:27:16 <MacTed> s/browser preview/iOS 5 browser preview/
15:27:27 <bblfish> keygen is working everywhere 
15:27:31 <bblfish> so the problem is i
15:27:31 <bblfish> t
15:27:39 <bblfish> he certificate is not sent to the server
15:30:03 <bergi> did you test against a server with sni support?
15:30:49 <yamalight> nope, we've only tested with foafssl.org
15:31:11 <bergi> https://resourceme.bergnet.org/test.php
15:31:29 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
15:31:29 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
15:31:48 <bblfish> who is making noise?
15:32:03 <bblfish> zakim, whom is making noise?
15:32:03 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bblfish.
15:32:06 <bergi> https://resourceme.bergnet.org uses sni
15:33:38 <domel> zakim, who's making noise?
15:33:49 <Zakim> domel, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P21 (10%)
15:38:43 <bblfish> we're missing the keygen in rdf
15:39:46 <bblfish> here http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/05/09/
15:40:48 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
15:40:48 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
15:42:26 <domel> look to http://www.w3.org/TR/rdfa-core/#s_syntax
15:44:36 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy
15:44:36 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's noisy', MacTed
15:44:43 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?
15:44:53 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: MacTed (54%), bblfish (35%), ??P21 (68%)
15:45:00 <MacTed> Zakim, mute ??p21
15:45:00 <Zakim> ??P21 should now be muted
15:46:05 <domel> According to my knowledge there is no possibility of using RDFa in HTML controls.
15:46:47 <yamalight> sorry, i'll have to excuse myself, I got to go now. thank you all for interesting discussion :)
15:47:30 <Zakim> -??P21
15:47:38 <MacTed> TODO: bblfish to research RDFa in HTML forms
15:47:55 <yamalight> hm, seems ??p21 was me :\
15:47:59 <MacTed> ACTION: bblfish to research RDFa in HTML forms
15:47:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-41 - Research RDFa in HTML forms [on Henry Story - due 2011-10-10].
15:48:21 <yamalight> anyway, thank you all for interesting discussion and goodbye :)
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15:48:48 <bblfish> bye! thanks for coming
15:51:34 <domel> input element is empty and to add  content we embed it to @value, not like CDATA elements
15:54:33 <domel> bblfish, to your proposal it is posible to use http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/
15:55:27 <domel> because action with method GET you can use SPARQL query
15:56:02 <domel> not SELECT, only CONSTRUCT
15:57:30 <bergi> http://www.w3.org/wiki/PushBackDataToLegacySourcesRDForms
15:57:38 <bblfish> CTION: bblfish to write sparql query for ping back form http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/05/09/ 
15:57:57 <bblfish> ACTION: bblfish to write sparql query for ping back form http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/05/09/
15:57:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Write sparql query for ping back form http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/05/09/ [on Henry Story - due 2011-10-10].
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16:05:15 <bblfish> bye
16:05:19 <Zakim> -MacTed
16:05:23 <Zakim> -bergi
16:05:24 <Zakim> -??P24
16:05:26 <Zakim> -bblfish
16:05:28 <Zakim> -domel
16:05:30 <Zakim> INC_WEBID(WEBID)11:00AM has ended
16:05:32 <Zakim> Attendees were MacTed, bblfish, domel, bergi
16:07:00 <bblfish> trackbot, end meeting
16:07:00 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:07:00 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:07:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:07:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-webid-minutes.html trackbot
16:07:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:07:02 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-webid-actions.rdf :
16:07:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bblfish to research RDFa in HTML forms [1]
16:07:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-webid-irc#T15-47-59
16:07:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: bblfish to write sparql query for ping back form http://bblfish.net/tmp/2011/05/09/ [2]
16:07:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/03-webid-irc#T15-57-57