IRC log of svg on 2011-09-29

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Zakim, this will be GA_SVGWG

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ok, trackbot; I see GA_SVGWG(SVG1)4:00PM scheduled to start now

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Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 29 September 2011

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+ +33.1.75.06.aaaa

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+??P0

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Zakim, ??P0 is me

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+ed; got it

20:02:35 [cyril]

Zakim, aaaa is me

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+cyril; got it

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+tbah

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+Doug_Schepers

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JulSep/0150.html

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scribeNick: ed

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chair: ed

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+ChrisL

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Topic: SVG Open

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ED: just checking when to cancel the svg telcons

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... since I assume ppl will attend TPAC and SVG Open

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thu 20, 27, 3

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CC: will be travelling on the 10 nov

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ED: ok, will cancel the telcons thu 20, 27 sept, and 3 nov

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ED: everyone here going to be at SVG Open?

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CL: not me, just TPAC

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DS: we should have a brief presentation on SVG2 for the WG panel

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... either from staff contact or chairs

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CL: sounds like a good idea

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DS: mentioning the feedback from the mailinglist etc

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... someone has to do the work

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... heycam should do it

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... CC are you interested in presenting the plan for SVG2?

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ED: the WG panel is on the first day

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DS: i'll put some slides together

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ACTION: DS to prepare some slides on SVG2 for SVG Open 2011

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Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - DS

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Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. schepers, dschulze2)

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ACTION: schepers to prepare some slides on SVG2 for SVG Open 2011

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Created ACTION-3132 - Prepare some slides on SVG2 for SVG Open 2011 [on Doug Schepers - due 2011-10-06].

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ED: we said previously that we'd have a WG meeting at the last day at SVG OPen (the workshop day)

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CC: some of us may want to attend the workshops

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ED: i'm assuming advanced gradients would be one of the topics

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CL: saw some updates to the proposal, and implementation in inkscape

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ACTION: ED to create wikipage for SVG Open 2011 F2F meeting

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Created ACTION-3133 - Create wikipage for SVG Open 2011 F2F meeting [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-10-06].

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Topic: TPAC 2011

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http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/TPAC_2011

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ED: propose topics on the wiki, and the chairs will assemble a full agenda based on that

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... MS is hosting the first two days of the meeting

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CL: is it close to the TPAC meeting location?

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CC: i'll have a car, also have booked two different hotels

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... 14 minutes by car between the two places

20:27:51 [cyril]

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=1065+La+Avenida+Street,+Mountain+View,+CA+94043-1421+(Microsoft+Corporation)&daddr=Santa+Clara+Marriott,+Mission+College+Boulevard,+Santa+Clara,+California,+United+States&hl=en&sll=37.38298,-122.016907&sspn=0.135037,0.235519&geocode=FT7bOgIdY1a5-CGMVRuC-aKwQw%3BFWqJOgIddtC6-CFFS3jJtG9nGQ&vpsrc=0&mra=ls&t=m&z=13

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ED: checked with the CSS WG chairs on when to meet the FXTF, 3 nov was suggested

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CC: any other groups meeting with SVG the other days?

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ED: haven't yet heard, but if there are topics that involve svg the schedule is still open

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CC: the other days, what are people doing?

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CL: other WG meetings

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DS: informal meetings at tpac are really valuable, and it's good to take part in other WG's meetings too

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DS: CC, you might be interested in attending HTML, CSS and WebApps

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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2011/registrants

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topic: SVG2 repository setup

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http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Svgwg.org

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ED: so, following the instructions on that page carefully you should be able to get a checkout of the svg2 repository

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... it's setup to automatically push to the w3c repository, but has some hooks to automatically build the publish version of the spec and so on

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... jwatt should send an email explaining this in more detail later, but it's already possible to start working on the spec I think

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... summary: don't use the dvcs.w3.org repos directly, always go via the svgwg.org repos

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... spec is just 1.1 Second Edition with pink background color to indicate that it's not yet been changed, when changing things we should mark the sections with another color to indicate it's ready for review

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CC: what happens if multiple ppl push at the same time?

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ED: i'd assume it's queued (or rejected)

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-tbah

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CL: building, does that require tools clientside?

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+tbah

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ED: it's running buildscripts on the svgwg.org server, nothing required by clients apart from the mercurial client

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topic: SVG2 Planning

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ED: updates?

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... people still welcome to add comments to the requirements page

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... i've not had time to start on the UC&R page yet, but will try to soon

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CC: maybe we could use one of the meeting days at TPAC to discuss this

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s/TPAC/SVG Open or TPAC/

20:54:33 [cyril]

zakim, mute me

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cyril should now be muted

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ED: sure

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Topic: Publishing SVG Integration

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ED: status?

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can we get a link to that spec ?

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DS: no change, we have resolved to publish as FPWD

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... there has been comments on that

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... either process comments first, or publish it as-is and say that we have comments

20:56:37 [cyril]

Is it http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/integration/SVGIntegration.html ?

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CL: think the second option would be better

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DS: I could list the comments, and indicate things we want to add, or just publish it as is

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... just to get it out for wider review

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... not too much work

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CL: would like to see it out before TPAC

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DS: makes sense

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... we'll get comments again on the number of modes we have in the spec

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... maybe clarify what the modes are meant to be used for

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... points of reference for other specifications

20:59:36 [cyril]

zakim, unmute me

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cyril should no longer be muted

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... it was discussed at the auckland f2f

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... i'll include links to known comments

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RESOLUTION: publish the SVG Integration spec as FPWD with a list of known comments

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-ChrisL

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-ed

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-tbah

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-cyril

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trackbot, end telcon

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Zakim, list attendees

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As of this point the attendees have been +33.1.75.06.aaaa, ed, cyril, tbah, Doug_Schepers, ChrisL

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RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-svg-minutes.html trackbot

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RRSAgent, bye

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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-svg-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: DS to prepare some slides on SVG2 for SVG Open 2011 [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-svg-irc#T20-19-07

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ACTION: schepers to prepare some slides on SVG2 for SVG Open 2011 [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-svg-irc#T20-19-19

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ACTION: ED to create wikipage for SVG Open 2011 F2F meeting [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-svg-irc#T20-23-08

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-Doug_Schepers

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Attendees were +33.1.75.06.aaaa, ed, cyril, tbah, Doug_Schepers, ChrisL

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