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13:54:14 <tbaker> zakim, this will be lld
13:54:14 <Zakim> ok, tbaker, I see INC_LLDXG()10:00AM already started
13:54:26 <tbaker> Meeting: LLD XG Editorial 
13:54:29 <tbaker> Chair: Tom
13:55:22 <tbaker> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/FinalEditing
13:55:40 <tbaker> rrsagent, please make record public
13:57:48 <tbaker> Expected: Tom, Emma, Karen, Jodi (joining late), Antoine (if he can join from the airport)
14:01:07 <Zakim> +Emma
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14:03:25 <Zakim> +??P38
14:03:40 <tbaker> zakim, ??p38 is kcyle
14:03:41 <Zakim> +kcyle; got it
14:03:43 <emma_> zakim, ??P38 is kcoyle
14:03:43 <Zakim> I already had ??P38 as kcyle, emma_
14:03:56 <tbaker> zakim, ??p38 is kcoyle
14:03:56 <Zakim> I already had ??P38 as kcyle, tbaker
14:03:56 <emma_> zakim, kcyle is really kcoyle
14:03:58 <Zakim> +kcoyle; got it
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14:05:01 <emma_> Scribe: Emma
14:05:11 <emma_> scribenick: emma
14:05:41 <emma_> Karen: just sent a mail with an update
14:06:00 <emma_> ... jodi exported the docs
14:06:09 <emma_> ... karen does final editing
14:06:18 <emma_> ...and Peter will put it online
14:06:31 <emma_> ... links at the last moment
14:06:58 <emma_> ... remaining issues : what to do with Semantic Alignment annex
14:07:38 <emma_> ... very different from other appendices
14:07:46 <emma_> ... rather a section within appendix B
14:08:29 <emma_> into Appendix B, which now reads:  5.3.2 Discrete and bulk access to information 5.3.3 Front ends for mapping existing data stores to Linked Data and RDF 5.3.4 Semantic alignment
14:08:34 <kcoyle> had been app A - Sem alignment - app B
14:09:14 <emma_> Karen; actually this section doesn't really fit anywhere
14:09:43 <tbaker> Emma: originally, this was part of Appendix A on available data
14:09:58 <emma_> ... there aren't any sections dsecribing the technology at that level
14:10:15 <emma_> s/dsecribing /describing
14:10:37 <emma_> ... and I'm happy with result, question is whether other people will be
14:10:51 <tbaker> Karen: Think it is better in App B - do authors agree?  App A is linked data "resources" - alignments are not a "resource"
14:11:48 <emma_> ... app A is a description of resources, Sem Alignment rather technology
14:12:10 <emma_> ... or we could have Semantic Alignment as appendix B, and Relevant Tech app C
14:13:29 <emma_> ... or remove it altogether.
14:13:43 <emma_> Emma: but it's a bit long for app B.
14:14:24 <emma_> ... editing again ?
14:14:33 <emma_> Karen: the content is fine
14:14:44 <Zakim> +??P54
14:14:53 <emma_> ... there are a lot of other discussions of this kind that we didnt put in
14:15:04 <dvilasuero> zakim,+??p54 is me
14:15:04 <Zakim> sorry, dvilasuero, I do not recognize a party named '+??p54'
14:15:14 <tbaker> zakim, ??p54 is dvilasuero
14:15:14 <Zakim> +dvilasuero; got it
14:15:25 <dvilasuero> zakim, mute me
14:15:25 <Zakim> dvilasuero should now be muted
14:15:29 <emma_> ... if people want to put it in, we have to put it somewhere
14:15:57 <emma_> TomB: splitting it into a separate appendix means less problems for appendices A or B
14:16:56 <emma_> ... is it harmful to have it in ?
14:17:12 <emma_> karen: editorially, I wouldn't it to be in a separate appendix.
14:17:27 <emma_> s/I wouldn't it/I wouldn't want it
14:18:19 <emma_> TomB: cutting an entire section now is a problem. It's an important topic.
14:18:35 <emma_> ... it's important to have it somewhere in the report.
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14:19:17 <emma_> ... it should be in recommendations
14:19:29 <emma_> Karen: we didn't use the term alignment there
14:19:39 <emma_> TomB: maybe we should
14:21:24 <emma_> Emma: could be a separate appendix with subtitles
14:21:33 <tbaker> Karen: Other two Appendixes referring to external report - this doesn't.
14:21:36 <emma_> ... it's about state of the art and issues
14:22:11 <tbaker> ...either belongs in the body or not sure what to do with it...
14:22:21 <emma_> ... put it in use cases
14:23:27 <dvilasuero> I wouldnt mind to add some text to the report
14:24:08 <emma_> TomB: in favor of making it a separate appendix or just remove it.
14:24:21 <emma_> ... if we put it last after appendix B
14:25:08 <emma_> Karen: could be a part of App A
14:25:17 <emma_> Emma: that's the way it was before
14:25:29 <emma_> ... and we changed it because it didnt fit
14:25:39 <tbaker> It's not http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Draft_Vocabularies_Datasets_Section2 ?
14:26:28 <emma_> Emma: agree with Tomb
14:27:42 <emma_> Karen: I'll make it appendix C
14:29:04 <tbaker> Tom: Peter will put the HTML documents online?
14:29:31 <emma_> Karen: Peter will make HTML links and then everybody can look at it
14:29:33 <tbaker> ...Peter, do you have write access?
14:30:13 <emma_> TomB: do we want to store them at their final destination ? they would be readable
14:30:26 <emma_> Karen: that's anavoidable, we need to test the links
14:30:49 <emma_> TomB: the final destination is a timestamp directory so we have to set a release date
14:31:08 <emma_> Karen: we need to talk to Peter about this
14:31:28 <tbaker> Peter, we need to decide when we think the report will be published and create a directory with a time-stamped name.
14:31:58 <Zakim> +Jodi
14:32:34 <tbaker> Jodi: Main question: how can I help with Karen's editing?
14:32:57 <tbaker> Karen: Main thing: take all links to wiki documents and turn them into absolute links.
14:33:14 <tbaker> ...hopefully a global change (Jodi agrees).
14:34:01 <tbaker> Jodi can handle the global change.
14:40:01 <emma_> TomB: let's meet again next week for an update on where things stand
14:40:43 <emma_> ... 2 more telecons then publish next monday
14:41:28 <Zakim> -Jodi
14:41:31 <Zakim> -kcoyle
14:41:32 <Zakim> -Emma
14:41:32 <dvilasuero> bye!
14:41:35 <dvilasuero> thanks
14:41:37 <emma_> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:41:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-lld-minutes.html emma_
14:41:44 <Zakim> -dvilasuero
14:41:59 <emma_> rrsagent, please make record public
14:42:10 <emma_> zakim, list attendees
14:42:10 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Emma, kcoyle, dvilasuero, Jodi
14:42:20 <emma_> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:42:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-lld-minutes.html emma_
14:42:52 <emma_> *didn't work well though :-(
14:43:06 <emma_> scribenick: emma_
14:43:12 <emma_> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:43:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/29-lld-minutes.html emma_
14:43:34 <tbaker> well enough - only one issue really...!
14:43:41 <tbaker> right
14:44:14 <Zakim> -??P12
14:44:16 <Zakim> INC_LLDXG()10:00AM has ended
14:44:18 <Zakim> Attendees were Emma, kcoyle, dvilasuero, Jodi
14:44:29 <emma_> zakim, bye
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14:44:34 <emma_> rrsagent, bye
14:44:34 <RRSAgent> I see no action items