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11:15:46 <fsasaki> meeting: MAWG
11:15:49 <fsasaki> chair: thierry
11:15:52 <fsasaki> scribe: fsasaki
11:16:05 <tmichel> topic:3. Items
11:16:09 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Sep/0056.html
11:16:27 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: minutes from f2f meeting approved
11:16:35 <fsasaki> next f2f meeting at TPAC
11:16:51 <fsasaki> going through action items at http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
11:17:19 <fsasaki> close ACTION-432
11:17:20 <trackbot> ACTION-432 Prepare tables with extra column for validating properties mapped in files closed
11:17:31 <fsasaki> close ACTION-433
11:17:31 <trackbot> ACTION-433 Draft short how-to for validating example files closed
11:17:53 <fsasaki> present: wbailer, fsasaki, mcsuarez, wonsuk73, tmichel
11:17:59 <fsasaki> close ACTION-434
11:17:59 <trackbot> ACTION-434 Send guidelines and link to good example file to thierry closed
11:18:04 <fsasaki> close ACTION-435
11:18:04 <trackbot> ACTION-435 Draft mail to example file editors closed
11:18:21 <fsasaki> close ACTION-436
11:18:22 <trackbot> ACTION-436 draft response to LC-2556 closed
11:18:32 <fsasaki> close ACTION-437
11:18:32 <trackbot> ACTION-437 include text on what constitutes a feature / cr exit criteria into the api doc closed
11:19:09 <fsasaki> ACTION-438?
11:19:09 <trackbot> ACTION-438 -- Thierry Michel to check / update list of group members in api doc acknowledgements section -- due 2011-09-13 -- OPEN
11:19:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/438
11:19:12 <fsasaki> will be open
11:19:17 <fsasaki> close ACTION-439
11:19:17 <trackbot> ACTION-439 send consolidated draft of what constitutes a feature closed
11:19:55 <fsasaki> ACTION-440?
11:19:55 <trackbot> ACTION-440 -- Florian Stegmaier to check if this converter is useful for us -- due 2011-09-13 -- OPEN
11:19:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/440
11:20:17 <fsasaki> will be kept open. is about conversion from our RDF to JSON
11:21:25 <fsasaki> ACTION-441?
11:21:26 <trackbot> ACTION-441 -- WonSuk Lee to propose use case related to webkit -- due 2011-09-14 -- OPEN
11:21:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/441
11:21:33 <wonsuk73> not yet. so keep open please
11:21:39 <tmichel> wonsuk can you report on action 441 (edit)
11:21:53 <fsasaki> ACTION-442?
11:21:53 <trackbot> ACTION-442 -- Florian Stegmaier to check and update uc and req document for consistency with specs -- due 2011-09-14 -- OPEN
11:21:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/442
11:21:56 <fsasaki> ongoing
11:22:15 <fsasaki> ACTION-443?
11:22:15 <trackbot> ACTION-443 -- Florian Stegmaier to draft api test suite document based on the outcomes of today's discussions -- due 2011-09-14 -- OPEN
11:22:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/443
11:22:48 <fsasaki> werner: discussion about how to design test cases during f2f. Florian wanted to use this discussion as the basis for creating a first version of the test cases document
11:23:08 <fsasaki> thierry: preprared API test suite page, now it is Florian's turn
11:23:13 <fsasaki> close ACTION-444
11:23:14 <trackbot> ACTION-444 Set up api test suite page closed
11:23:30 <tmichel> topic: Ontology: Moving Forward (CR exit/PR entrance)
11:24:47 <fsasaki> felix: please let me know what I need to change in the XMP example
11:25:49 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Sep/0052.html
11:28:02 <fsasaki> action: felix to implement changes at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Sep/0052.html for XMP and set creation date in XMP file to the same values
11:28:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-445 - Implement changes at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2011Sep/0052.html for XMP and set creation date in XMP file to the same values [on Felix Sasaki - due 2011-09-20].
11:28:21 <tmichel> topic:  final review on the PR version
11:30:12 <tmichel> the MAWG agrres to transition the ontology spec to PR, as we beleive we have fulfilled our CR exit criteria
11:30:30 <tmichel> any objection ?
11:30:41 <tmichel> No 
11:30:59 <tmichel> Resolutuion request PR publication for the Ontology spec.
11:31:25 <tmichel> topic: XSLT-Stylesheet for conversion XMP to MAWG (Thierry, Felix)
11:31:25 <tmichel>  
11:31:50 <fsasaki> thierry: added converter stylesheet to the list of implementations 
11:31:58 <tmichel> topic: API: Moving Forward (CR entrance)
11:32:11 <tmichel> topic: HTTP 501 comment resolution (Florian)
11:32:43 <fsasaki> thierry: resolved during f2f, formal response to commentor. He has agreed to our response
11:33:06 <fsasaki> werner: question was whether this would formally get into HTTP error codes
11:34:00 <fsasaki> action: florian to respond to response of commentor related to HTTP 501
11:34:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-446 - Respond to response of commentor related to HTTP 501 [on Florian Stegmaier - due 2011-09-20].
11:34:15 <fsasaki> thierry: consider this to be closed for the translation
11:34:21 <tmichel> topic:  implementation report for the API for media resource 1.0 (Florian)
11:34:28 <tmichel> on going ...
11:34:48 <tmichel> topic: testsuites for the API for media resource 1.0 (Florian, Thierry)
11:34:50 <tmichel> ongoing
11:34:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/13-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
11:35:17 <tmichel> topic: CR entrance progress (Thierry)
11:35:42 <tmichel> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/drafts/API10/CR/Overview.html
11:36:46 <fsasaki> thierry: should be close to something final
11:37:25 <fsasaki> thierry going through the doc
11:39:00 <fsasaki> people on the call are happy with the 1st item
11:39:47 <fsasaki> thierry: are the two implementations we have are really independent?
11:40:10 <fsasaki> .. director may ask something about that, so want to be sure about this
11:40:35 <fsasaki> werner: we are still lacking implementations for some features
11:40:56 <fsasaki> .. we are talking to people from genth, they could help with the API implementation  
11:41:14 <fsasaki> .. if that happens, there is no dependency
11:41:32 <fsasaki> .. the browser plugin and the service are done by the same group, but they are different implementations
11:41:45 <fsasaki> .. they do not have common code,  it is just the same people developing them
11:42:12 <fsasaki> thierry: you might say "if the source code is independent you might say it is different"
11:42:34 <fsasaki> .. but the director might say "it needs to be different people who have the same understanding of the implementations"
11:43:04 <fsasaki> werner: server side and client side implementations were done by different people
11:43:59 <fsasaki> .. if genth would do the implementation, then there is no issue at all
11:44:23 <fsasaki> thierry: want to make sure that then we want to exit CR, that everything will be fine
11:44:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/13-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
11:45:47 <fsasaki> now vote
11:45:48 <tmichel> topic: voting for CR entrance (Chairs)
11:46:29 <tmichel> the MAWG agrees to transition the API spec to CR, and beleives we have resolved all LC comments
11:46:35 <tmichel> objections ?
11:46:41 <fsasaki> no objections
11:47:00 <tmichel> Resolution: request publication of the API spec as CR.
11:47:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/13-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
11:47:25 <tmichel> schedule for the director online meeting (Thierry)
11:47:28 <tmichel> will do
11:47:44 <tmichel> topic: Use Cases and Requirements: Updating
11:48:06 <fsasaki> thierry: wonsuk not on the phone, let's wait for the initial version of Florian
11:48:06 <tmichel> wait for the initial updated version (Florian)
11:48:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/13-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
11:49:06 <tmichel> topic: brief summary of I-KNOW/I-SEMANTIC panel
11:49:30 <fsasaki> werner: panel went quite well
11:49:40 <fsasaki> .. there was a lot of interest
11:50:06 <fsasaki> .. lot of interesting comments and discussions
11:51:05 <fsasaki> .. also talked about the relation to schema.org
11:53:00 <fsasaki> thierry: thanks for the report, werner
11:53:03 <fsasaki> topic: next step
11:53:19 <fsasaki> thierry: will request publication of ontology as PR and of API as CR
11:53:29 <fsasaki> .. will set up a call with the director ASAP
11:53:41 <fsasaki> .. next focus will be test suite and implementation report
11:53:50 <tmichel> of the API 
11:54:02 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
11:54:38 <fsasaki> adjourned
12:08:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/09/13-mediaann-minutes.html fsasaki
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