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20:01:49 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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20:01:50 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
20:01:50 <trackbot> Date: 04 August 2011
20:01:59 <jamesn> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:01:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen
20:02:05 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
20:02:19 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P0 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:02:19 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
20:03:38 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:03:59 <Loretta> Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG
20:04:10 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JulSep/0062.html
20:04:24 <MichaelC> regrets: David_MacDonald, Cynthia_Shelly
20:04:40 <MichaelC> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:04:54 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:06:52 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
20:07:06 <Zakim> +??P1
20:07:27 <adam> zakim, ??P1 is adam_solomon
20:07:27 <Zakim> +adam_solomon; got it
20:08:14 <MichaelC> topic: Schedule for August
20:08:17 <MichaelC> == August 11 ==
20:08:22 <MichaelC> no regrets
20:08:28 <MichaelC> == August 18 ==
20:08:34 <MichaelC> mc: regrets
20:08:41 <MichaelC> == August 25 ==
20:08:43 <MichaelC> mc: regrets
20:08:46 <MichaelC> as: regrets
20:08:51 <MichaelC> lgr: regrets
20:08:54 <MichaelC> gv: regrets
20:10:06 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: no meeting 25 August 2011
20:10:12 <MichaelC> survey 11 and 18 August
20:11:56 <MichaelC> topic: ATAG response to WCAG WG comments http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110728misc/results#xq1
20:12:30 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: formally accept all responses except comment 17
20:12:42 <MichaelC> concerns about calling content "accessible" instead of "conforming"
20:13:50 <MichaelC> topic: Issue LC-2535: H1 elements should be used for titling the web site http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110728misc/results#x2535
20:14:17 <MichaelC> <discussed last week but didn't record a resolution>
20:24:00 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: could be an advisory technique or reworked to become an alternate sufficient technique, but either way needs a fair time investment, invite submitter to work with us on that
20:26:15 <MichaelC> topic: Documenting techniques
20:26:22 <MichaelC> List of techniques are resources: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques
20:26:32 <MichaelC> Self-documenting technique template: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Technique_Template
20:26:41 <MichaelC> Technique instructions (draft): http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Technique_Instructions
20:27:09 <MichaelC> LGR to ask Mary and Wolfe to review these for things they wish they knew
20:28:00 <MichaelC> anybody else welcome to suggest as well
20:28:23 <MichaelC> topic: Issue LC-2536: CSS Technique: Using an invisible header text in the sidebar navigation http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110728misc/results#x2535
20:37:29 <MichaelC> zakim, mute katie
20:37:29 <Zakim> Katie_Haritos-Shea should now be muted
20:47:04 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: respond that we're considering a generic technique for hidden text but this usage is advisory; invite to resubmit as advisory taking care of that when complete
20:48:01 <jamesn> ACTION: nurthen to draft an advisory technique of how to create hidden text and what are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so.
20:48:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-137 - Draft an advisory technique of how to create hidden text and what are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so. [on James Nurthen - due 2011-08-11].
20:49:17 <MichaelC> topic: Issue LC-2532: Need (or not) for text equivalent of AV files http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110804misc/results#x2532
20:49:23 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
20:49:39 <MichaelC> topic: HTML5 and 3.1.5 Reading Level  http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110804misc/results#xq2
21:01:26 <MichaelC> action: katie to contact Liddy Nevile and Charles McCathieNevile about metadata solutions in education
21:01:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-138 - Contact Liddy Nevile and Charles McCathieNevile about metadata solutions in education [on Katie Haritos-Shea - due 2011-08-11].
21:06:55 <Zakim> -adam_solomon
21:18:08 <Loretta> \ comment?
21:25:43 <Loretta> For non-text content that is a control or accepts user input , such as images used as submit buttons, image maps or complex animations, a name is provided to describe the purpose of the non-text content so that the person at least knows what the non-text content is and why it is there.
21:27:39 <Loretta> WCAG: #  Controls, Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (Refer to Guideline 4.1 for additional requirements for controls and content that accepts user input.) 
21:38:55 <jamesn> ACTION: nurthen to write a note for 1.1.1 understanding in order to clarify that buttons need not have all of their context as part of their label - they need only make sense within their context.
21:38:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-139 - Write a note for 1.1.1 understanding in order to clarify that buttons need not have all of their context as part of their label - they need only make sense within their context. [on James Nurthen - due 2011-08-11].
21:45:04 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:45:19 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:45:20 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
21:45:21 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:45:22 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
21:45:24 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:45:25 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
21:45:27 <Zakim> Attendees were Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen, Michael_Cooper, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, adam_solomon
21:52:49 <MichaelC> trackbot, end meeting
21:52:49 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
21:52:49 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
21:52:50 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
21:52:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html trackbot
21:52:51 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
21:52:51 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
21:52:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: nurthen to draft an advisory technique of how to create hidden text and what are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so. [1]
21:52:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-irc#T20-48-01
21:52:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: katie to contact Liddy Nevile and Charles McCathieNevile about metadata solutions in education [2]
21:52:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-irc#T21-01-26
21:52:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: nurthen to write a note for 1.1.1 understanding in order to clarify that buttons need not have all of their context as part of their label - they need only make sense within their context. [3]
21:52:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-irc#T21-38-55