IRC log of wai-wcag on 2011-08-04
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM already started
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- Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 04 August 2011
- 20:01:59 [jamesn]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:01:59 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see ??P0, Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen
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- +Michael_Cooper
- 20:02:19 [MichaelC]
- zakim, ??P0 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
- 20:02:19 [Zakim]
- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2011JulSep/0062.html
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- regrets: David_MacDonald, Cynthia_Shelly
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- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 20:04:54 [Zakim]
- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
- 20:06:52 [MichaelC]
- scribe: MichaelC
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- +??P1
- 20:07:27 [adam]
- zakim, ??P1 is adam_solomon
- 20:07:27 [Zakim]
- +adam_solomon; got it
- 20:08:14 [MichaelC]
- topic: Schedule for August
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- == August 11 ==
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- no regrets
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- == August 18 ==
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- mc: regrets
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- == August 25 ==
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- mc: regrets
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- as: regrets
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- lgr: regrets
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- gv: regrets
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- RESOLUTION: no meeting 25 August 2011
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- survey 11 and 18 August
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- topic: ATAG response to WCAG WG comments http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110728misc/results#xq1
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- RESOLUTION: formally accept all responses except comment 17
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- concerns about calling content "accessible" instead of "conforming"
- 20:13:50 [MichaelC]
- topic: Issue LC-2535: H1 elements should be used for titling the web site http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110728misc/results#x2535
- 20:14:17 [MichaelC]
- <discussed last week but didn't record a resolution>
- 20:24:00 [MichaelC]
- RESOLUTION: could be an advisory technique or reworked to become an alternate sufficient technique, but either way needs a fair time investment, invite submitter to work with us on that
- 20:26:15 [MichaelC]
- topic: Documenting techniques
- 20:26:22 [MichaelC]
- List of techniques are resources: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Techniques
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- Self-documenting technique template: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Technique_Template
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- Technique instructions (draft): http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Technique_Instructions
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- LGR to ask Mary and Wolfe to review these for things they wish they knew
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- anybody else welcome to suggest as well
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- topic: Issue LC-2536: CSS Technique: Using an invisible header text in the sidebar navigation http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110728misc/results#x2535
- 20:37:29 [MichaelC]
- zakim, mute katie
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- Katie_Haritos-Shea should now be muted
- 20:47:04 [MichaelC]
- RESOLUTION: respond that we're considering a generic technique for hidden text but this usage is advisory; invite to resubmit as advisory taking care of that when complete
- 20:48:01 [jamesn]
- ACTION: nurthen to draft an advisory technique of how to create hidden text and what are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so.
- 20:48:02 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-137 - Draft an advisory technique of how to create hidden text and what are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so. [on James Nurthen - due 2011-08-11].
- 20:49:17 [MichaelC]
- topic: Issue LC-2532: Need (or not) for text equivalent of AV files http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110804misc/results#x2532
- 20:49:23 [MichaelC]
- RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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- topic: HTML5 and 3.1.5 Reading Level http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20110804misc/results#xq2
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- action: katie to contact Liddy Nevile and Charles McCathieNevile about metadata solutions in education
- 21:01:26 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-138 - Contact Liddy Nevile and Charles McCathieNevile about metadata solutions in education [on Katie Haritos-Shea - due 2011-08-11].
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- -adam_solomon
- 21:18:08 [Loretta]
- \ comment?
- 21:25:43 [Loretta]
- For non-text content that is a control or accepts user input , such as images used as submit buttons, image maps or complex animations, a name is provided to describe the purpose of the non-text content so that the person at least knows what the non-text content is and why it is there.
- 21:27:39 [Loretta]
- WCAG: # Controls, Input: If non-text content is a control or accepts user input, then it has a name that describes its purpose. (Refer to Guideline 4.1 for additional requirements for controls and content that accepts user input.)
- 21:38:55 [jamesn]
- ACTION: nurthen to write a note for 1.1.1 understanding in order to clarify that buttons need not have all of their context as part of their label - they need only make sense within their context.
- 21:38:55 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-139 - Write a note for 1.1.1 understanding in order to clarify that buttons need not have all of their context as part of their label - they need only make sense within their context. [on James Nurthen - due 2011-08-11].
- 21:45:04 [Zakim]
- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -James_Nurthen
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- -Marc_Johlic
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- -Michael_Cooper
- 21:45:25 [Zakim]
- WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Marc_Johlic, James_Nurthen, Michael_Cooper, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, adam_solomon
- 21:52:49 [MichaelC]
- trackbot, end meeting
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- Zakim, list attendees
- 21:52:49 [Zakim]
- sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-minutes.html trackbot
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- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: nurthen to draft an advisory technique of how to create hidden text and what are the advantages and disadvantages of doing so. [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-irc#T20-48-01
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- ACTION: katie to contact Liddy Nevile and Charles McCathieNevile about metadata solutions in education [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-irc#T21-01-26
- 21:52:51 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: nurthen to write a note for 1.1.1 understanding in order to clarify that buttons need not have all of their context as part of their label - they need only make sense within their context. [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-wai-wcag-irc#T21-38-55