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14:03:18 <Zakim> ok, Andi; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
14:03:25 <Andi> rrsagent, make logs public
14:03:31 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has now started
14:03:32 <Zakim> +Andi_Snow_Weaver
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14:03:47 <Andi> Scribe: Andi
14:03:55 <Andi> Meeting: AAPI 
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14:06:00 <Zakim> +[Mozilla]
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14:06:16 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
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14:06:42 <davidb> Zakim, Mozilla has David_Bolter
14:06:42 <Zakim> +David_Bolter; got it
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14:07:21 <Andi> topic: bug 11514
14:07:29 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11514
14:09:36 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_state-property
14:15:18 <Andi> DB: for aria-hidden, there will be an object attribute "hidden" for IA2 and ATK/AT-SPI
14:16:26 <Andi> AS: what happens if aria-hidden changes?
14:16:37 <Andi> DB: fire object show/hide or state change event
14:17:48 <Andi> CS: object is in the tree
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14:18:07 <Andi> DB: fire object attribute changed event
14:19:19 <davidb> IA2_EVENT_OBJECT_ATTRIBUTE_CHANGED
14:22:41 <Andi> assign 11514 to David to look up events for aria-hidden and also review entire Events table to ensure events are correct for IA2 and ATK/AT-SPI column
14:24:44 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/861
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14:26:09 <Andi> ACTION-861
14:26:17 <Andi> topic: action-861
14:29:03 <Andi> DB: sometimes, there are multiple accessibilty objects for a single DOM object
14:34:26 <Andi> topic: bug 13258
14:34:33 <Andi> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13258
14:37:34 <Andi> AS: first issue is the exception of tablist for the selection follows focus
14:37:48 <Andi> AS: are there any other exceptions to that rule?
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14:38:37 <Andi> DB: can't think of any other cases
14:39:32 <Andi> DB: looking at the roles to see if there are any others
14:39:43 <Andi> DB: composite widgets are likely suspects
14:40:36 <Andi> DB: think tablist is the only odd one of the composite widgets
14:41:47 <Andi> DB: spinbutton might be an exception - focus could be on the buttons but what is selected is one of the options
14:44:47 <Andi> 1 Where tabindex equals a negative integer, allow the element to be focused,
14:44:47 <Andi> but do not include the element in the sequential tab order.
14:44:47 <Andi> <als> what does "allow the element to be focused" mean? Should this state
14:44:47 <Andi> explicitly to set the FOCUSABLE state? </als>
14:45:08 <Andi> text should say "set the FOCUSABLE" state
14:46:00 <Andi> need a table - states may be different in the different APIs
14:47:24 <Andi> bullet 8 - split into to
14:47:56 <Andi> CS: when an object is focused, expose focused state, when it loses focus, remove focused state, might be an event for that
14:48:19 <Andi> bug - Cynthia - look into the event for that
14:49:18 <Andi> DB: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUSED
14:54:50 <Andi> In Controlling Focus with Tabindex, bullet 8 is not needed if the first three are tightened up wrt FOCUSABLE or if we add the table for the APIs
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15:02:13 <Zakim> -[Mozilla]
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15:02:19 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
15:02:23 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM has ended
15:02:27 <Zakim> Attendees were Andi_Snow_Weaver, Cynthia_Shelly, David_Bolter
15:02:28 <Andi> finish discussion of 11258 next time
15:02:32 <Andi> zakim, bye
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15:02:44 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:02:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-aapi-minutes.html Andi
15:03:20 <Andi> Chair: Andi_Snow-Weaver
15:03:25 <Andi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:03:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/21-aapi-minutes.html Andi
16:31:28 <Andi> rrsagent, bye
16:31:28 <RRSAgent> I see no action items