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14:54:22 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:54:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
14:54:23 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:54:23 <trackbot> Date: 14 July 2011
14:55:03 <sharper> Agenda+ Welcome
14:55:13 <sharper> Agenda+ Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)
14:55:14 <sharper> Agenda+ Round the table introductions - each participant introduces themselves briefly
14:55:14 <sharper> Agenda+ EU Coordinated Action (CARDIAC) Report - SH 
14:55:25 <sharper> Agenda+ Revisit research topics - http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki
14:55:25 <sharper> Agenda+ Evaluation as our First Topic? As discussed, this is a good timing to do something that would feed into the newly launched W3C/WAI Evaluation TF <http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/2011/eval/eval-tf>, which in turn would feed into the EC Mandate 376 work on accessible ICT procurement. In other words, RDWG work in this field would have significant impact. - SH/SAZ
14:55:25 <sharper> Agenda+ Any Other Business 
14:55:53 <sharper> zakim, save agenda
14:56:00 <Zakim> ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-agenda.rdf
14:56:03 <sharper> rrsagent, make logs public
14:56:03 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
14:56:13 <sharper> regrets+ Conway_Vivienne
14:56:13 <sharper> regrets+ Lopes_Rui
14:56:13 <sharper> regrets+ Mehta_Arun
14:56:13 <sharper> regrets+ McCathieNevile_Charles
14:56:14 <sharper> regrets+ Miesenberge_Klaus
14:56:21 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:56:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
14:56:41 <sharper> present+ Harper_Simon
14:56:53 <sharper> chair: Harper_Simon
14:57:02 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:57:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
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14:58:17 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()11:00AM has now started
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14:58:34 <sharper> zakim, ??P24 is sharper
14:58:34 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
14:58:42 <sharper> zakim, code?
14:58:44 <Zakim> the conference code is 7394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), sharper
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14:59:30 <sharper> zakim, ??P26 is markel
14:59:31 <Zakim> +markel; got it
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15:00:11 <sharper> zakim, who's here?
15:00:17 <markel> zakim mute markel
15:00:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see sharper, markel
15:00:44 <markel> zakim, mute markel
15:01:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see markel, Zakim, RRSAgent, sharper, Mate, nonge__, trackbot
15:01:18 <Zakim> markel should now be muted
15:01:57 <markel> zakim, who is here?
15:02:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see sharper, markel (muted)
15:02:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see markel, Zakim, RRSAgent, sharper, Mate, nonge__, trackbot
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15:04:33 <shadi> zakim, who is phone?
15:04:41 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:04:51 <Zakim> +Shadi
15:04:57 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, shadi.
15:05:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see sharper, markel, Shadi
15:07:08 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/
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15:10:42 <sharper> present+ Vigo_Markel
15:10:54 <sharper> present+ Yesilada_Yeliz
15:11:53 <sharper> present+ Abou-Zahra_Shadi
15:12:22 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:12:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html sharper
15:13:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:14:04 <yeliz> zakim, [IPcaller] is yeliz
15:14:04 <Zakim> +yeliz; got it
15:15:47 <yeliz> zakim, mute me
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15:16:24 <sharper> scribe: Harper_Simon
15:16:24 <sharper> ScribeNick: sharper
15:16:44 <sharper> topic:  Evaluation topic - what to do first
15:16:59 <yeliz> zakim, unmute me
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15:17:35 <sharper> SH: maybe editors should propose a topic taking into account parts or all of variuous wiki topics
15:17:45 <sharper> s/variuous/various
15:17:53 <Zakim> +??P36
15:18:22 <sharper> zakim, ??P36 is Brajnik_Giorgio
15:18:22 <Zakim> +Brajnik_Giorgio; got it
15:19:07 <sharper> SAZ: Don't want to direct this group based on the needs of the Evaluation group - which is Benchmarking
15:25:22 <Zakim> -yeliz
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15:26:10 <yeliz> zakim, ??P53 is yeliz
15:26:10 <Zakim> +yeliz; got it
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15:28:05 <yeliz> I agree with Shadi
15:28:50 <yeliz> discussing in the mailing list would be good
15:31:30 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
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15:32:10 <shadi> q+
15:32:28 <shadi> ack me
15:32:40 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
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15:38:56 <yeliz> Ranking is a good idea
15:39:38 <sharper> +1
15:39:41 <yeliz> +1
15:40:15 <yeliz> mailing list, survey, ranking is a good idea - this would involve all members of the group
15:41:35 <yeliz> I am sure when we start working on one topic, new topics will come up
15:41:44 <yeliz> and we can continue to improve/extend the list
15:43:25 <sharper> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Category:Evaluation
15:43:31 <yeliz> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Category:Evaluation
15:43:51 <markel> before we run the survey why we don't we ask members of the group to write in the wiki list of research challenges and wish-list of each topic -as a way to foster implication of members-
15:44:06 <markel> and then run the survey
15:44:57 <yeliz> +1 Shadi
15:45:11 <markel> b/c some of them are quite incomplete to have an idea to rank them
15:45:46 <shadi> "evaluation - testing - conformance testing - conformity assessement"
15:45:47 <yeliz> sounds good to me
15:46:27 <yeliz> I agree with Simon as well
15:47:11 <yeliz> I agree
15:48:25 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
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15:50:59 <markel> agree with yeliz
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15:52:39 <sharper> +1
15:52:46 <yeliz> +1
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15:53:37 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/showwb
15:54:36 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
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15:56:52 <yeliz> zakim, mute yeliz
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15:58:31 <yeliz> ohh yes
15:58:32 <yeliz> :)
15:58:42 <markel> indeed
15:59:46 <yeliz> zakim, unmute yeliz
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16:02:21 <yeliz> \me byee
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16:03:49 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()11:00AM has ended
16:03:57 <Zakim> Attendees were sharper, markel, Shadi, yeliz, Brajnik_Giorgio
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16:09:03 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
16:09:03 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:09:03 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
16:09:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:09:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/14-rd-minutes.html trackbot
16:09:05 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:09:05 <RRSAgent> I see no action items