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14:52:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 
14:52:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
14:52:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference
14:52:18 <trackbot> Date: 07 July 2011
14:52:47 <kaz> s/Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference/Media Pipeline TF call/
14:52:53 <kaz> zakim, list
14:52:53 <Zakim> I see Team_(ia)14:04Z, WAI_RDWG()11:00AM, SW_(PROV1)8:00AM, INC_LLDXG()10:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM, SW_RDFa()10:00AM, T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM, UW_POI(POIWG)10:00AM active
14:52:57 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are I18N_WG(MLW)11:00AM, Team_(PWET)11:00AM, SW_HCLS()11:00AM, VB_VBWG(CCXML)11:00AM, MM_MMI(EMMA)10:00AM, XML_PMWG()10:00AM, WF_TF()9:00AM,
14:53:01 <Zakim> ... Team_Comm()10:30AM, Styl_XSL-FO-()11:00AM, Math_IG()10:00AM, SW_(PROV)11:00AM, WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM, UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM, SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM, WF_US-B()10:30AM,
14:53:04 <Zakim> ... WAI_PFWG(AAPI)10:00AM
14:53:50 <kaz> zakim, this will be UW_WebTVIG
14:53:51 <Zakim> ok, kaz; I see UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
14:54:03 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
14:54:03 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
14:54:04 <Zakim> UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM has now started
14:54:05 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
14:55:02 <Zakim> + +1.404.242.aaaa
14:55:54 <kaz> zakim, aaaa is Steven_Wright
14:55:54 <Zakim> +Steven_Wright; got it
14:56:27 <Zakim> +lai
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14:57:00 <kaz> zakim, lai is Russell_Berkoff
14:57:00 <Zakim> +Russell_Berkoff; got it
14:57:37 <Zakim> +??P17
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14:58:29 <kaz> zakim, ??P17 is Clarke_Stevens
14:58:29 <Zakim> +Clarke_Stevens; got it
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14:59:01 <Zakim> +??P45
14:59:19 <kaz> zakim, ??P45 is Hiroyuki_Aizu
14:59:19 <Zakim> +Hiroyuki_Aizu; got it
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14:59:53 <Zakim> +??P42
15:00:09 <kaz> zakim, ??P42 is Mark_Watson
15:00:11 <Zakim> +Mark_Watson; got it
15:00:25 <Zakim> +??P51
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15:00:31 <Zakim> +Richard_Bardini
15:00:43 <Zakim> +SamCoppens
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15:01:12 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:01:25 <Zakim> +Tatsuya_Igarashi
15:01:38 <kaz> zakim, ??P51 is Eric_Winkelman
15:01:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see Kazuyuki, Steven_Wright, Russell_Berkoff, Clarke_Stevens, Hiroyuki_Aizu, Mark_Watson, ??P51, Richard_Bardini, Davy, Tatsuya_Igarashi
15:01:58 <Zakim> +Eric_Winkelman; got it
15:02:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see pcesar, mark, igarashi, davy, rbardini, r, Clarke, aizu, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, trackbot
15:02:20 <kaz> zakim, Eric_Winkelman is ErickWinkelman_BobLund
15:02:50 <Zakim> +ErickWinkelman_BobLund; got it
15:03:06 <kaz> Chair: Clarke
15:03:10 <kaz> scribe: Kaz
15:03:12 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
15:03:59 <Clarke> Here is today's agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/Agenda_Telco_7th_July_2011
15:04:09 <kaz> Present: Kazuyuki, Steven_Wright, Russell_Berkoff, Clarke_Stevens, Hiroyuki_Aizu, Mark_Watson, ErickWinkelman_BobLund, Richard_Bardini, Davy (muted), Tatsuya_Igarashi
15:04:15 <Zakim> + +31.20.592.aabb
15:04:20 <pcesar> Pablo Cesar just join the call
15:04:26 <pcesar> the +31 number
15:04:36 <kaz> zakim, aabb is Pablo_Cesar
15:04:41 <kaz> Present+ Pablo
15:04:51 <kaz> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/Agenda_Telco_7th_July_2011
15:04:59 <kaz> clarke: reviews the agenda
15:05:21 <Zakim> +Pablo_Cesar; got it
15:05:44 <Clarke> Charter: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF
15:06:21 <kaz> clarke: (explains the charter)
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15:06:45 <kaz> ... to see additional requirements to existing standards, e.g., HTML5
15:06:53 <kaz> ... questions/comments?
15:07:36 <Clarke> Correction: Here is the Charter: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/MPTF_Charter
15:08:59 <kaz> clarke: (explains "Basic Information", and then "Scope")
15:10:11 <kaz> i/explains the charter/topic: charter review/
15:10:58 <kaz> bob: question about user agent adaptive support
15:11:13 <kaz> clarke: comment for bullet points
15:12:06 <kaz> ... splicing content into stream
15:12:50 <kaz> mark: content splicing is not clear
15:13:28 <kaz> @@@: could you suggest something more descriptive?
15:13:39 <kaz> s/@@@/richard/
15:14:11 <kaz> clarke: clear define is useful
15:15:15 <kaz> pablo: HTML5 and JavaScrpt are quite dynamic and flexible
15:16:08 <kaz> ... one of the problem is "seemless playback"
15:16:13 <kaz> s/seem/seam/
15:16:48 <kaz> ... might want to synchronize multiple streams on different devices
15:17:02 <kaz> clarke: tablet and video, e.g.
15:18:02 <kaz> action: stevens to add clarification to the second point "content splicing"
15:18:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Add clarification to the second point "content splicing" [on Clarke Stevens - due 2011-07-14].
15:18:25 <kaz> clarke: next, the third point "Browser handling..."
15:18:40 <kaz> ... make sense?
15:19:17 <kaz> @@@: not quite sure
15:20:16 <kaz> ###: need some mechanism to support it in HTML
15:20:26 <kaz> s/###/Steven_Wright/
15:20:58 <kaz> zakim, mute steven_wright
15:20:58 <Zakim> Steven_Wright should now be muted
15:22:08 <kaz> clarke: issue raised earlier is how to synchronize using JavaScript
15:22:37 <kaz> ... next point "Enhancements..."
15:22:52 <kaz> ... additional metadata specific to commercial video
15:23:56 <kaz> ???: one of the issues is you can use metadata but not obvious what type of application signals in metadata
15:24:42 <kaz> zakim, who is speaking?
15:24:53 <Zakim> kaz, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
15:25:26 <kaz> @@@: you need to be very clear about metadata format
15:26:09 <kaz> pablo: what if I want to comment some specific scene of a program, not the program as a whole?
15:26:44 <kaz> clarke: timed text metadata
15:27:34 <kaz> q+
15:27:38 <kaz> ack kaz
15:28:21 <kaz> bob: regarding the last point
15:28:29 <kaz> ... HNTF raised an issue
15:28:42 <kaz> ... on MPEG2 transport layer
15:28:56 <kaz> ... that may be one thing we should mention
15:29:01 <aizu> q+
15:29:06 <kaz> q?
15:29:10 <r> q+ [Samsung] rberkoff
15:29:32 <kaz> ack aizu
15:29:36 <mark> +q
15:29:44 <kaz> q+ aizu
15:29:52 <kaz> ack Samsung
15:29:56 <kaz> ack rberkoff
15:30:41 <kaz> rberkoff: not necessarily depending on actual location
15:30:53 <kaz> ... also distribution of content
15:31:24 <kaz> clarke: coming from your local network or some network hierarcy(?)
15:31:49 <kaz> rberkoff: it's not a matter of content generated from the source
15:32:05 <kaz> action: stevens to mention russell's point
15:32:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Mention russell's point [on Clarke Stevens - due 2011-07-14].
15:32:13 <kaz> ack mark
15:32:45 <r> ack [Samsung]
15:33:03 <kaz> mark: media format?
15:33:32 <kaz> clarke: need to clarify at least for the first bullet point
15:33:47 <kaz> action: stevens to add clarification on media format for the first bullet
15:33:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-50 - Add clarification on media format for the first bullet [on Clarke Stevens - due 2011-07-14].
15:33:50 <kaz> ack aizu
15:35:05 <kaz> aizu: we think video stream from a tuner come from air wave will be decoded
15:35:13 <kaz> ... and used in <video> element
15:35:39 <kaz> ... so we'd like to handle both video data from air wave and stream from IP
15:35:53 <kaz> ... using same mechanism
15:36:37 <kaz> clarke: so you want to think about <video> controlled tuner?
15:36:42 <kaz> aizu: yeah
15:36:55 <kaz> clarke: maybe in scope
15:37:05 <kaz> ... we need to write actual use cases
15:37:15 <kaz> aizu: ok. will do
15:37:28 <kaz> action: aizu to generate use case on tuner
15:37:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - Generate use case on tuner [on Hiroyuki Aizu - due 2011-07-14].
15:37:36 <kaz> q?
15:37:49 <kaz> clarke: let's move on then
15:38:10 <kaz> ... "Success Criteria"
15:38:18 <kaz> q+
15:38:30 <kaz> ack k
15:39:37 <kaz> kaz: as HNTF does, we need to generate a TF level requirements doc
15:39:59 <kaz> ... so that we can create an IG level requirements doc by the end of the IG charter
15:40:02 <kaz> clarke: yes
15:40:06 <Clarke> Q?q?
15:40:10 <kaz> ... following the HNTF way
15:40:33 <kaz> ... generating use cases is our task
15:40:52 <kaz> ... and assign them to use case editors
15:41:08 <Clarke> Use case template: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/Use_Cases_Template
15:41:33 <kaz> clarke: the above is the template for use case submission
15:41:39 <Zakim> -Tatsuya_Igarashi
15:42:10 <kaz> ... description on the importance, etc.
15:42:21 <Clarke> q?
15:42:22 <kaz> ... question?
15:42:52 <kaz> @@@: sometimes use cases are very broad
15:43:02 <kaz> s/@@@/Bob/
15:43:29 <kaz> ... should add motivation etc.
15:43:51 <kaz> action: stevens to synchronize with HNTF for the use case template
15:43:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Synchronize with HNTF for the use case template [on Clarke Stevens - due 2011-07-14].
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15:43:58 <Clarke> q?
15:44:43 <kaz> clarke: will hold our calls every week
15:45:13 <kaz> ... issues/actions will be discussed
15:45:30 <kaz> bob: where is the address of the mail refrector?
15:45:36 <kaz> s/refrector/refrecter/
15:46:28 <mark> apologies, I have to leave now
15:46:33 <Zakim> -Mark_Watson
15:46:55 <kaz> kaz: in the "Communication" section (http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/MPTF/MPTF_Charter#Communication)
15:47:14 <kaz> action: stevens to add ML address to the logistics page as well
15:47:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Add ML address to the logistics page as well [on Clarke Stevens - due 2011-07-14].
15:47:35 <kaz> clarke: we've covered except open items
15:48:26 <kaz> ... anything else?
15:48:50 <kaz> rberkoff: content protection is not able to be in the scope?
15:48:57 <kaz> clarke: good point
15:49:22 <kaz> ... I didn't include it
15:49:27 <kaz> ... maybe need another TF
15:49:31 <kaz> rberkoff: ok
15:49:39 <kaz> clarke: tx for participation!
15:49:40 <Zakim> -Pablo_Cesar
15:49:42 <Zakim> -Richard_Bardini
15:49:43 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
15:49:44 <Zakim> -Hiroyuki_Aizu
15:49:44 <Zakim> -ErickWinkelman_BobLund
15:49:45 <Zakim> -Steven_Wright
15:49:45 <Zakim> -Russell_Berkoff
15:49:46 <Zakim> -Clarke_Stevens
15:49:47 <Zakim> -Davy
15:49:49 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
15:49:50 <Zakim> UW_WebTVIG()11:00AM has ended
15:49:52 <Zakim> Attendees were Kazuyuki, +1.404.242.aaaa, Steven_Wright, Russell_Berkoff, Clarke_Stevens, Hiroyuki_Aizu, Mark_Watson, Richard_Bardini, Davy, Tatsuya_Igarashi,
15:49:54 <Zakim> ... ErickWinkelman_BobLund, +31.20.592.aabb, Pablo_Cesar
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15:49:54 <Clarke> Thank you kaz for taking notes.
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15:50:11 <kaz> rragent, make log public
15:50:16 <kaz> rragent, draft minutes
15:50:22 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:50:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:50:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:51:17 <kaz> s/rragent, make log public//
15:51:30 <Clarke> Kaz, does that automatically get added to the wiki, or do I need to provide a link to the minutes archive each week?
15:51:32 <kaz> s/rragent, draft minutes//
15:52:01 <Clarke> ok, thanks
15:52:05 <kaz> thank YOU!
15:53:30 <HJ> Hi Kaz.
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15:57:59 <kaz> rrsagent, stop