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15:50:53 <burn> trackbot, start telcon
15:50:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:50:57 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 
15:50:58 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
15:50:58 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Speech Incubator Group Teleconference
15:50:59 <trackbot> Date: 07 July 2011
15:51:03 <burn> Chair:  Dan Burnett
15:51:46 <burn> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/0007.html
15:51:56 <burn> Scribe: Dan_Burnett
15:52:01 <burn> ScribeNick:  burn
15:54:13 <Zakim> INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM has now started
15:54:20 <Zakim> +??P11
15:54:31 <smaug> not again...bad connection
15:54:49 <smaug> Zakim, ??P11 is Olli_Pettay
15:54:49 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
15:55:03 <smaug> Zakim, nick smaug is Olli_Pettay
15:55:03 <Zakim> ok, smaug, I now associate you with Olli_Pettay
15:56:33 <Zakim> +[Voxeo]
15:56:46 <burn> zakim, [Voxeo] is Dan_Burnett
15:56:46 <Zakim> +Dan_Burnett; got it
15:56:52 <burn> zakim, I am burn
15:56:52 <Zakim> sorry, burn, I do not see a party named 'burn'
15:56:59 <burn> zakim, I am Dan_Burnett
15:56:59 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate you with Dan_Burnett
15:57:09 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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15:57:38 <burn> zakim, [Microsoft] is Robert_Brown
15:57:38 <Zakim> +Robert_Brown; got it
15:58:00 <Robert> Robert has joined #htmlspeech
15:59:15 <Zakim> +??P18
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15:59:20 <burn> Regrets:  Michael_Bodell
15:59:39 <burn> zakim, ??P18 is Bjorn_Bringert
15:59:39 <Zakim> +Bjorn_Bringert; got it
15:59:45 <Charles> Charles has joined #htmlspeech
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16:00:02 <Zakim> +Dan_Druta
16:00:17 <ddahl> ddahl has joined #htmlspeech
16:00:58 <Zakim> +Charles_Hemphill
16:01:06 <burn> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/0007.html
16:01:21 <burn> Topic:  Protocol subgroup status update
16:01:32 <Zakim> +Debbie_Dahl
16:01:38 <burn> zakim, nick Charles is Charles_Hemphill
16:01:40 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate Charles with Charles_Hemphill
16:01:50 <Zakim> + +1.408.359.aaaa
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16:02:14 <burn> Draft to review is in this email:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/0011.html
16:02:31 <burn> About a week behind schedule
16:02:45 <burn> Plan was to model on MRCP, send everything over websockets
16:02:58 <burn> zakim, aaaa is Glen_Shires
16:03:07 <Zakim> +Glen_Shires; got it
16:03:17 <burn> MRCP is ideal for IVR but not necessarily for HTML
16:03:34 <burn> zakim, nick glen is Glen_Shires
16:03:40 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate glen with Glen_Shires
16:03:43 <burn> Continuous recognition also not really supported in MRCP
16:04:03 <burn> So keeping methods and headers where they make sense, adjusting otherwise
16:04:07 <Zakim> + +44.207.881.aabb
16:04:30 <Zakim> +Patrick_Ehlen
16:04:52 <burn> zakim, aabb is Satish_Sampath
16:05:03 <Zakim> +Satish_Sampath; got it
16:05:08 <Zakim> +Michael_Johnston
16:05:08 <burn> zakim, nick satish is Satish_Sampath
16:05:15 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate satish with Satish_Sampath
16:05:19 <burn> any questions?
16:05:29 <Michael_> Michael_ has joined #htmlspeech
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16:05:47 <burn> zakim, nick Michael_ is Michael_Johnston
16:05:47 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate Michael_ with Michael_Johnston
16:05:57 <burn> zakim, nick ehlen is Patrick_Ehlen
16:05:57 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate ehlen with Patrick_Ehlen
16:06:37 <burn> Robert:  any questions?
16:06:45 <burn> Group:  [no]
16:06:57 <smaug> lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Jul/att-0011/speech-protocol-draft-03.html
16:08:16 <burn> Bjorn:  have consensus on mailing list on markup binding
16:08:38 <burn> ... Satish, Olli and I have consensus
16:08:59 <burn> ... okay to have recognition element but must be flexible in terms of UA policies
16:09:24 <burn> ... UA are allowed to show permission prompt each time if they want
16:09:37 <burn> Olli:  UA must not start reco without getting some permission from user
16:10:00 <burn> Bjorn:  no, must not start sending audio to remote service (might have been collected earlier)
16:10:58 <burn> Olli:  current API doesn't work for this
16:11:08 <burn> Bjorn:  might be allowable to have a whitelist
16:11:13 <burn> Olli:  agree
16:11:30 <burn> Bjorn:  doesn't necessarily have to prompt for permission, could get it some other way.
16:11:48 <burn> Olli:  as long as clicking on a page is not considered giving permission
16:12:10 <burn> Bjorn:  can relax restriction if recognizer is part of browser and audio is not sent anywhere
16:12:29 <burn> Olli:  yes, no permisssion needed if reco done on local device
16:12:39 <burn> ... but needed for use of remote service
16:13:22 <burn> Bjorn:  summary is okay to have a recognition element, just clicking the element is not sufficient permission to start sending to remote service, some explicit permission is required
16:13:38 <burn> Olli:  this does'nt say anything about how we would bind to existing html elements
16:13:45 <burn> Bjorn:  is there disagreement?
16:13:53 <burn> Olli:  possibly, depending on which type
16:13:59 <burn> ... still to discuss
16:14:03 <burn> Bjorn:  okay
16:15:36 <Zakim> -Bjorn_Bringert
16:15:40 <Zakim> -Debbie_Dahl
16:16:00 <ddahl> ddahl has left #htmlspeech
16:16:03 <Zakim> -Glen_Shires
16:16:13 <Zakim> -Satish_Sampath
16:16:22 <burn> s/About a week behind/Robert: About a week behind/
16:16:47 <burn> s/Plan was to model/Robert:  Plan was to model/
16:17:08 <burn> s/MRCP is ideal/Robert:  MRCP is ideal/
16:17:28 <burn> s/Continuous recognition also/Robert: Continuous recognition also/
16:17:49 <burn> s/So keeping methods and headers/Robert: So keeping methods and headers/
16:18:34 <burn> rrsagent, make log public
16:18:40 <burn> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:18:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
16:47:15 <burn> zakim, who's on the phone?
16:47:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Olli_Pettay, Dan_Burnett, Robert_Brown, Dan_Druta, Charles_Hemphill, Patrick_Ehlen, Michael_Johnston
17:06:48 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
17:09:05 <smaug> ah, skype died
17:30:57 <Zakim> -Dan_Druta
17:30:58 <Zakim> -Robert_Brown
17:30:58 <Zakim> -Dan_Burnett
17:31:00 <Zakim> -Michael_Johnston
17:31:02 <Zakim> -Patrick_Ehlen
17:31:13 <Zakim> -Charles_Hemphill
17:31:18 <Zakim> INC_(HTMLSPEECH)11:30AM has ended
17:31:20 <Zakim> Attendees were Olli_Pettay, Dan_Burnett, Robert_Brown, Bjorn_Bringert, Dan_Druta, Charles_Hemphill, Debbie_Dahl, +1.408.359.aaaa, Glen_Shires, +44.207.881.aabb, Patrick_Ehlen,
17:31:23 <Zakim> ... Satish_Sampath, Michael_Johnston
17:31:35 <burn> zakim, bye
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17:31:39 <burn> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:31:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
17:32:26 <burn> s/ +1.408.359.aaaa,//
17:32:43 <burn> s/ +44.207.881.aabb,//
17:32:55 <burn> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:32:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
17:34:01 <burn> s/<smaug> ah, skype died//
17:34:05 <burn> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:34:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
17:34:19 <smaug> thanks
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