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14:57:17 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
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14:57:21 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:57:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:57:22 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
14:57:23 <trackbot> Date: 29 June 2011
14:58:00 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:58:05 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
14:58:09 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:58:41 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2011Jun/0008.html
14:58:55 <aphillip> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
14:59:05 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:59:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:59:26 <aphillip> ...
14:59:34 <aphillip> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:59:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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15:00:52 <aphillip> zakim, I am Addison_Phillips
15:00:53 <Zakim> ok, aphillip, I now associate you with Addison_Phillips
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15:01:49 <Zakim> +kojiishi; got it
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15:02:20 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
15:02:21 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:02:23 <Zakim> +Richard
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15:03:01 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:04:30 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes and Agenda review
15:04:42 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:04:58 <aphillip> Check into digit shaping with CSS
15:05:56 <aphillip> none of the browsers support substitution so if you type 1 you don't get e.g. Arabic digit '1'
15:06:09 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:06:35 <aphillip> 	Review Contacts API and collect last call comments for the WG. WG members to perform review.
15:06:56 <aphillip> close ACTION-43
15:06:56 <trackbot> ACTION-43 Review Contacts API and collect last call comments for the WG. WG members to perform review. closed
15:07:06 <aphillip> 	Publish qa-personal-names for wide review
15:07:35 <aphillip> next week
15:07:36 <aphillip> Dump charmod-norm and add disclaimer paragraph, dates, etc. so that we can publish an interim working draft
15:08:11 <aphillip> 	Collect any remaining comments and update timezones document for final publication
15:08:22 <aphillip> richard has kindly posted it
15:09:02 <aphillip> Update charmodsummary and review WG member comments as they come in
15:09:22 <aphillip> 	Convert koji's comments on contacts API into tracker comments to forward to DAP
15:09:37 <aphillip> Create a new product for contacts API in tracker
15:09:49 <aphillip> richard isn't done yet....... so a-50 is blocked
15:09:53 <aphillip> should be today?
15:10:04 <aphillip> 	Contact the TAG to ask for finding on normalization in about a month
15:10:25 <aphillip> ready to fire. will send this morning
15:10:34 <aphillip> 	Create working draft of TAG finding document
15:10:51 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:11:12 <aphillip> gwyneth: date control discussion on html5 list
15:11:42 <aphillip> ... two comments about internationalization in that thread
15:12:25 <aphillip> richard: CSS Ruby to be published as WD tomorrow
15:12:38 <aphillip> ... some process snags
15:13:09 <Gwyneth> Here is the tread I mentioned: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jun/0425.html
15:13:52 <aphillip> richard: will put up new version of i18n checker
15:13:57 <aphillip> ... significantly updated
15:14:25 <aphillip> ... just a "beta"
15:14:30 <aphillip> ... won't replace the production version yet
15:14:35 <aphillip> ... will announce
15:14:50 <aphillip> addison: new internet-draft for transliterations
15:14:51 <aphillip> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-davis-t-langtag-ext-01
15:15:37 <aphillip> en-t-ja
15:16:19 <aphillip> Topic: Timezones
15:16:37 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/timezones/
15:17:26 <aphillip> richard: still have open comment
15:17:39 <r12a> "Offset from UTC is the most basic measure of a time zone"
15:18:30 <aphillip> richard: suggest
15:18:35 <r12a> The most basic way to derive a time zone is to base it on the offset from UTC.
15:19:43 <r12a> "Some times zones observe DST, while others do not. "
15:20:00 <r12a> In some regions, the time zone is based on an offset and a amount corresponding to DST.  Such time zones only exist for part of a year.
15:22:18 <aphillip> richard: need better wordsmithing to explain
15:23:22 <aphillip> A time zone is a geographical region or area that has common rules
15:23:23 <aphillip> ->
15:23:42 <aphillip> A time zone is a set of rules that apply to a particular geogprahical region or area
15:24:58 <aphillip> remove "or area"
15:25:38 <aphillip> A time zone is a set of rules for determining the local observed time (wall time) as it relates to incremental time (as used in most computing systems).
15:25:47 <aphillip> .. as applied to a particular geo. region
15:25:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:26:04 <aphillip> for a particular...
15:27:35 <aphillip> All time zones have, as their basis, an offset from UTC.
15:28:44 <aphillip> Some time zones include rules for observing DST...
15:29:48 <aphillip> raw offset + dst delta
15:30:43 <aphillip> addison: are we done?
15:31:19 <aphillip> chair: call for consensun on publishing WWTZ as a WG-Note
15:31:30 <aphillip> s/consensun/consensus/
15:31:41 <aphillip> richard: aye
15:31:48 <Gwyneth> sounds good
15:32:04 <matial> ok
15:32:28 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
15:32:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see Addison_Phillips, matial, kojiishi, Richard, David, Gwyneth
15:32:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see Gwyneth, David, kojiishi, matial, r12a, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, trackbot
15:32:48 <aphillip> david: okay
15:32:50 <aphillip> koji: okay
15:33:06 <Gwyneth> Time zone service: https://svn.tools.ietf.org/html/draft-douglass-timezone-service-01
15:35:27 <aphillip> ACTION: richard: publish Timezones as a WG-Note
15:35:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Publish Timezones as a WG-Note [on Richard Ishida - due 2011-07-06].
15:35:50 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: write an announcement for time zones document as for the home page
15:35:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-55 - Write an announcement for time zones document as for the home page [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-07-06].
15:36:42 <aphillip> Topic: HTML5
15:38:54 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/5
15:39:03 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/8
15:39:22 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
15:40:57 <aphillip> 1. section 3.4.2 para 6 .... blah...
15:41:10 <aphillip> put the URI in your email
15:41:44 <aphillip> quote liberally
15:42:26 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/review-instructions
15:43:44 <aphillip> richard: for best succes in commenting, suggest a solution too
15:44:30 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:45:01 <aphillip> koji: for contacts API, will you send email to DAP?
15:45:21 <aphillip> addison: yes and I will copy our lists
15:46:02 <Zakim> -Gwyneth
15:46:04 <Zakim> -kojiishi
15:46:06 <Zakim> -David
15:46:07 <Zakim> -matial
15:46:07 <Zakim> -Richard
15:46:08 <Zakim> -Addison_Phillips
15:46:08 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()11:00AM has ended
15:46:10 <Zakim> Attendees were Addison_Phillips, matial, kojiishi, Richard, David, [Microsoft], Gwyneth
15:46:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:46:57 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
15:46:57 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-i18n-actions.rdf :
15:46:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: publish Timezones as a WG-Note [1]
15:46:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-i18n-irc#T15-35-27
15:46:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: write an announcement for time zones document as for the home page [2]
15:46:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-i18n-irc#T15-35-50
15:47:03 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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