IRC log of webtv on 2011-05-24

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07:33:05 [RRSAgent]: RRSAgent has joined #webtv
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07:34:31 [giuseppep]: francois are you online?
07:34:52 [giuseppep]: actions?
07:34:58 [giuseppep]: issues?
07:36:19 [giuseppep]: rrsagent, bye
07:36:32 [giuseppep]: rrsagent, please leave
07:36:37 [giuseppep]: rrsagent, leave
07:36:57 [giuseppep]: rrsagent, part
07:37:29 [francois]: Hi giuseppe, playing with RRSAgent? ;)
07:37:35 [francois]: RRSAgent, make logs public
07:37:38 [francois]: RRSAgent, bye
07:37:38 [RRSAgent]: I see no action items
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13:55:01 [trackbot]: RRSAgent, make logs world
13:55:03 [trackbot]: Zakim, this will be
13:55:03 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
13:55:04 [trackbot]: Meeting: Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference
13:55:04 [trackbot]: Date: 24 May 2011
13:55:19 [francois]: zakim, what conferences?
13:55:19 [Zakim]: I see Team_(wf)13:00Z, Team_(RevCadence)9:00AM, WAI_EOWG(EOWG)4:00AM active
13:55:21 [Zakim]: also scheduled at this time are UW_WebTVIG(Home Net)10:00AM, XML_(TAG TF)10:00AM, Team_(gandk)13:21Z, SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM, INC_SSN()9:00AM, Team_(recruit)14:00Z, MWI_BPWG()9:30AM,
13:55:23 [Zakim]: ... VB_VBWG()10:00AM, TAG_(AWWSW)9:00AM, T&S_XMLSEC()10:00AM, WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)9:00AM, Team_(MEET)10:00AM, IA_Team()10:00AM
13:55:34 [francois]: zakim, this will be UW_WebTVIG
13:55:34 [Zakim]: ok, francois; I see UW_WebTVIG(Home Net)10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:58:06 [kaz]: zakim, call kazuyuki-617
13:58:07 [Zakim]: ok, kaz; the call is being made
13:58:10 [Zakim]: UW_WebTVIG(Home Net)10:00AM has now started
13:58:12 [Zakim]: +Kazuyuki
13:59:52 [francois]: zakim, code?
13:59:52 [Zakim]: the conference code is 93288 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), francois
13:59:55 [Zakim]: +MarkVickers
14:00:07 [kaz]: zakim, who is here?
14:00:09 [Zakim]: +francois
14:00:16 [Zakim]: + +46.1.07.13.aaaa
14:00:23 [aizu]: aizu has joined #webtv
14:00:29 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Kazuyuki, MarkVickers, francois, +46.1.07.13.aaaa
14:00:32 [francois]: zakim, aaaa is JanLindquist
14:00:49 [Zakim]: On IRC I see RRSAgent, MattH, kaz, francois, giuseppep, Zakim, trackbot
14:00:59 [francois]: zakim, mute me
14:01:00 [Zakim]: +JanLindquist; got it
14:01:13 [francois]: Regrets: JeanClaude
14:01:33 [Zakim]: francois should now be muted
14:01:50 [Zakim]: +??P25
14:01:54 [donghyun_kang]: donghyun_kang has joined #webtv
14:02:09 [kaz]: zakim, ??P25 is DongHyun_Kang
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14:02:12 [Zakim]: +DongHyun
14:02:19 [Zakim]: +??P6
14:02:24 [kaz]: zakim, who is here?
14:02:26 [Zakim]: +DongHyun_Kang; got it
14:02:28 [Zakim]: -DongHyun_Kang
14:02:38 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Kazuyuki, MarkVickers, francois (muted), JanLindquist, DongHyun, ??P6
14:02:42 [Zakim]: -??P6
14:02:44 [Zakim]: +csderstr
14:02:51 [Zakim]: On IRC I see igarashi, donghyun_kang, aizu, RRSAgent, MattH, kaz, francois, giuseppep, Zakim, trackbot
14:03:12 [Zakim]: + +82.10.26.09.aabb
14:03:32 [kaz]: zakim, where is +82?
14:03:49 [Zakim]: +??P28
14:03:59 [Zakim]: country code 82 is South Korea
14:04:01 [Zakim]: -??P28
14:04:12 [aizu]: Zakim, P28 is me
14:04:19 [Zakim]: +??P31
14:04:35 [kaz]: zakim, PP31 is Matt_Hammond
14:04:43 [kaz]: zakim, ??P31 is Matt_Hammond
14:04:43 [Zakim]: sorry, aizu, I do not recognize a party named 'P28'
14:04:50 [Zakim]: +??P29
14:04:57 [francois]: zakim, ??P28 is aizu
14:05:02 [Zakim]: sorry, kaz, I do not recognize a party named 'PP31'
14:05:08 [Zakim]: +Matt_Hammond; got it
14:05:28 [Zakim]: I already had ??P28 as Karen_Myers, francois
14:05:47 [Zakim]: +??P34
14:06:06 [Clarke]: Clarke has joined #webtv
14:06:20 [giuseppep]: agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Agenda_Telco_24th_May_2011
14:06:44 [kaz]: zakim, take up victim
14:06:47 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'take up victim', kaz
14:06:50 [kaz]: zakim, pick up victim
14:06:50 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'pick up victim', kaz
14:06:54 [Zakim]: + +81.90.146.3.aacc
14:07:10 [Zakim]: -Matt_Hammond
14:07:11 [kaz]: zakim, aacc is Tatsuya_Igarashi
14:07:22 [Zakim]: +Tatsuya_Igarashi; got it
14:07:46 [kaz]: zakim, who is here?
14:07:46 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Kazuyuki, MarkVickers, francois (muted), JanLindquist, DongHyun, csderstr, +82.10.26.09.aabb, ??P29, ??P34, Tatsuya_Igarashi
14:07:49 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Clarke, igarashi, donghyun_kang, aizu, RRSAgent, MattH, kaz, francois, giuseppep, Zakim, trackbot
14:08:00 [Zakim]: +??P31
14:08:03 [kaz]: zakim, csdeerstr is actually Giuseppe
14:08:03 [Zakim]: I don't understand 'csdeerstr is actually Giuseppe', kaz
14:08:15 [kaz]: zakim, csdeerstr is Giuseppe
14:08:15 [Zakim]: sorry, kaz, I do not recognize a party named 'csdeerstr'
14:08:21 [kaz]: zakim, csderstr is Giuseppe
14:08:21 [Zakim]: +Giuseppe; got it
14:08:21 [aizu]: Zakim, ??P31 is me
14:08:22 [Zakim]: +aizu; got it
14:08:29 [kaz]: zakim, who is here?
14:08:29 [Zakim]: On the phone I see Kazuyuki, MarkVickers, francois (muted), JanLindquist, DongHyun, Giuseppe, +82.10.26.09.aabb, ??P29, ??P34, Tatsuya_Igarashi, aizu
14:08:32 [Zakim]: On IRC I see Clarke, igarashi, donghyun_kang, aizu, RRSAgent, MattH, kaz, francois, giuseppep, Zakim, trackbot
14:09:20 [kaz]: scribe: Kaz
14:09:25 [kaz]: scribenick: kaz
14:09:42 [giuseppep]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Agenda_Telco_24th_May_2011
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14:09:52 [kaz]: topic: requirements document
14:09:55 [francois]: zakim, ??P29 is perhaps Clarke
14:09:55 [Zakim]: +Clarke?; got it
14:10:21 [Zakim]: -aizu
14:10:26 [kaz]: giuseppep: how to structure?
14:10:40 [kaz]: ... one proposal is from Jan
14:10:52 [Zakim]: +??P31
14:11:12 [aizu]: Zakim, ??P31 is me
14:11:12 [Zakim]: +aizu; got it
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14:11:17 [kaz]: ... Jean-Claude provided high-level ones
14:11:33 [kaz]: ... while Russel gave rather specific ones
14:11:43 [kaz]: igarashi: agree with Jan
14:12:19 [Zakim]: -MarkVickers
14:12:25 [kaz]: ... details and high-level topics should be discussed separately
14:12:43 [kaz]: giugeppep: tx
14:12:46 [francois]: q+
14:12:54 [kaz]: zakim, who is speaking?
14:13:05 [Zakim]: kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Clarke? (67%)
14:13:31 [kaz]: Matt: use cases I proposed is application level
14:13:41 [kaz]: zakim, Clarke? is MattH
14:13:41 [Zakim]: +MattH; got it
14:13:57 [francois]: zakim, ??P34 is probably Clarke
14:13:57 [Zakim]: +Clarke?; got it
14:14:14 [kaz]: zakim, who is speaking?
14:14:25 [Zakim]: kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 10 (14%), Giuseppe (66%), MattH (53%)
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14:15:20 [giuseppep]: q?
14:15:20 [francois]: q+
14:15:29 [francois]: ack me
14:15:33 [giuseppep]: ack
14:15:44 [giuseppep]: q?
14:15:53 [rberkoff]: q+
14:16:03 [kaz]: fd: adding actual scenario would be useful
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14:16:15 [rberkoff]: cant dial-in???
14:16:22 [kaz]: giuseppep: would be useful to better understanding
14:16:30 [rberkoff]: no conf code was posted?
14:16:32 [francois]: zakim, mute me
14:16:32 [Zakim]: francois should now be muted
14:16:35 [kaz]: zakim, code?
14:16:35 [Zakim]: the conference code is 93288 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), kaz
14:16:39 [giuseppep]: zakim, code?
14:16:39 [Zakim]: the conference code is 93288 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), giuseppep
14:17:05 [Zakim]: +Bjorn_Bringert
14:17:12 [kaz]: giuseppep: let's continue
14:17:18 [kaz]: zakim, Bjorn is Russel
14:17:18 [Zakim]: +Russel; got it
14:17:22 [francois]: zakim, Bjorn_Bringert is really rberkoff
14:17:22 [Zakim]: sorry, francois, I do not recognize a party named 'Bjorn_Bringert'
14:17:32 [kaz]: giuseppe: (to Russel)
14:17:43 [Zakim]: +cmarc
14:17:54 [kaz]: ... we'll separate the use case document into two parts, generic part and specific part
14:18:30 [kaz]: topic: definition section
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14:18:50 [kaz]: giuseppep: people have different image for some terms
14:19:08 [kaz]: zakim, cmarc is dcorvoysier
14:19:08 [Zakim]: +dcorvoysier; got it
14:20:04 [francois]: q+
14:20:04 [kaz]: ... is our description generic enough?
14:20:18 [kaz]: ... opinion?
14:20:26 [kaz]: fd: application is a good term
14:20:41 [kaz]: ... another for home network would be service
14:20:58 [Zakim]: -aizu
14:21:33 [francois]: s/fd:/Clarke:/
14:22:53 [kaz]: giuseppep: HTML5 type of definition of "document" might be confusing
14:23:08 [kaz]: ... we could use "web application" as a term
14:23:24 [kaz]: ... we need to clarify what "application" means
14:23:30 [francois]: q?
14:23:43 [kaz]: clarke: can try
14:23:46 [francois]: ack rberkoff
14:23:49 [francois]: ack fran
14:24:15 [kaz]: fd: we prefer to use "application"
14:24:16 [Zakim]: +??P28
14:24:21 [kaz]: ... rather than "document"
14:24:30 [aizu]: Zakim, ??P28 is me
14:24:30 [Zakim]: +aizu; got it
14:25:16 [kaz]: ... I personally prefer "web application"
14:26:32 [kaz]: ... if we use the same definition (as HTML5), it would be easy to map our use cases to HTML5
14:26:39 [francois]: zakim, mute me
14:26:39 [Zakim]: francois should now be muted
14:26:49 [kaz]: giuseppep: would suggest your definition to the ML and share your ideas with everybody
14:26:51 [giuseppep]: q?
14:27:03 [kaz]: [ +1 w/ giuseppep ]
14:27:12 [giuseppep]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/products/2
14:27:28 [kaz]: i/http:/topic: open actions/
14:27:39 [giuseppep]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Discussions/ServiceMigration
14:27:43 [giuseppep]: issue-7?
14:27:43 [trackbot]: ISSUE-7 -- Use case: Service Migration -- open
14:27:43 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/7
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14:28:35 [kaz]: giuseppep: Jean-Claude's use case
14:28:46 [giuseppep]: q?
14:29:12 [kaz]: q+
14:29:27 [kaz]: giuseppep: "document" could describe application
14:29:32 [Zakim]: + +358.405.74aadd
14:29:39 [kaz]: s/application/"application"/
14:30:06 [giuseppep]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Home_Network_TF_Discussions/DocumentMigration
14:30:33 [kaz]: i/http:/giuseppep: this originally included two pieces, and another part is issue-15/
14:30:41 [JanL]: q+
14:30:55 [kaz]: issue-15?
14:30:55 [trackbot]: ISSUE-15 -- Document Migration -- raised
14:30:55 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/15
14:31:36 [rberkoff]: q+
14:32:56 [kaz]: kaz: regarding issue-7, the description is confusing
14:33:07 [kaz]: ... "music" is rather capability/feature
14:33:24 [MattH]: q+
14:33:28 [kaz]: ... "device" should be Audio, TV, music player, computer, etc.
14:33:39 [kaz]: giuseppep: agree the description is confusing
14:33:40 [kaz]: ack k
14:33:42 [kaz]: ack j
14:33:44 [igarashi]: q+
14:33:59 [kaz]: jan: two questions
14:34:12 [kaz]: ... 1 is example implementations
14:34:33 [kaz]: ... 2 is that this is similar to multi-screen use case
14:35:02 [kaz]: giuseppep: that's something "document migration" use case would capture
14:35:10 [giuseppep]: q?
14:35:14 [kaz]: ack r
14:35:23 [kaz]: russel: same concern as Kaz
14:35:32 [Clarke]: q+
14:36:08 [kaz]: ... device capability like camera, etc. is captured by this "service migration"?
14:36:19 [kaz]: ... how is application captured?
14:36:45 [kaz]: giuseppep: "how" is not yet discussed
14:37:02 [kaz]: russell: services use documents
14:37:09 [kaz]: s/russel:/russell:/
14:38:11 [kaz]: giuseppep: if your application use audio on some device which doesn't have audio capability, it doesn't work
14:38:16 [giuseppep]: q?
14:38:25 [kaz]: ... I proposed to JCD to rephrase the description
14:38:43 [kaz]: MattH: concrete scenario would be useful to me
14:38:51 [dcorvoysier]: The way it is described, the web page itself seems to be transferred from one device to the other ...
14:39:07 [kaz]: [ yeah... ]
14:39:25 [JanL]: q+
14:39:55 [Clarke]: q-
14:40:04 [giuseppep]: q?
14:40:08 [kaz]: giuseppep: talking with radio could be one use case scenario
14:40:21 [giuseppep]: q?
14:40:24 [kaz]: ack matth
14:40:25 [francois]: [ The definition of "application state" looks very application specific and difficult to generalize. ]
14:40:26 [kaz]: ack iga
14:41:01 [kaz]: igarashi: relationship between 7 and 15
14:41:04 [kaz]: ... now got it
14:42:01 [kaz]: ... second question is that this is not migration, but just using multiple devices
14:42:50 [kaz]: giuseppep: "widget running on some device and an application on another device" might be what JCD is thinking
14:43:03 [Clarke]: Migration seems to be service delivery with "multiple devices" with state
14:43:10 [kaz]: ... how do you move state from device to device?
14:43:32 [JanL]: q-
14:43:39 [kaz]: q+ to suggest "state transition from one device to another"
14:44:02 [giuseppep]: q?
14:44:05 [Clarke]: With a video, for example, you could retain the playback position
14:44:11 [giuseppep]: q?
14:44:12 [kaz]: s/... how do you move state from device to device?//
14:44:19 [kaz]: i/Migration seems/... how do you move state from device to device?/
14:44:29 [kaz]: q?
14:45:01 [giuseppep]: ISSUE-16?
14:45:01 [trackbot]: ISSUE-16 -- Web and Device Interworking -- raised
14:45:01 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/16
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14:46:08 [kaz]: jan: (explains the use case)
14:46:20 [kaz]: [[
14:46:21 [kaz]: A personal device list available in the home is invoked on any web page and devices in the list can be used for consuming the contents on a web page, e.g. video clip on a page can be redirected to a TV or recorded on a network attached storage.
14:46:21 [kaz]: ]]
14:46:35 [kaz]: ack k
14:46:35 [Zakim]: kaz, you wanted to suggest "state transition from one device to another"
14:46:48 [kaz]: q?
14:47:25 [kaz]: jan: you can see some example JavaScript scripts
14:47:43 [kaz]: ... comments welcome
14:47:46 [giuseppep]: q?
14:47:53 [kaz]: giuseppep: any comments?
14:48:09 [kaz]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2011May/0050.html Jan's message
14:48:22 [kaz]: giuseppep: people need some more time
14:48:39 [kaz]: ... my comments is that more examples are needed
14:49:00 [kaz]: jan: ok
14:49:12 [francois]: q+
14:49:12 [kaz]: s/comments is/comment is/
14:49:15 [francois]: ack me
14:49:15 [kaz]: q?
14:49:46 [kaz]: fd: difference between device and service?
14:50:04 [kaz]: giuseppep: some use case differentiate device and service
14:50:29 [kaz]: jan: different devices have different capability
14:50:36 [Zakim]: -Tatsuya_Igarashi
14:50:45 [Clarke]: q+
14:50:56 [kaz]: fd: do you need list of devices?
14:51:01 [giuseppep]: q?
14:51:39 [kaz]: ... maybe we can say "this service and that service work on a device"
14:51:51 [kaz]: zakim, who is speaking?
14:52:01 [Zakim]: kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: 12 (39%), Giuseppe (8%)
14:52:29 [mav_]: that was clarke
14:52:44 [kaz]: clarke: don't think PCs care about "what capability is working on which device" but devices themselves do care
14:53:00 [kaz]: ... "service" is more appropriate to "devices"
14:53:36 [francois]: [yes, we could use both "device" and "service" in the use cases]
14:53:52 [kaz]: ... not sure we have to have one specific word
14:53:53 [Zakim]: +Tatsuya_Igarashi
14:54:05 [Zakim]: -aizu
14:54:14 [MattH]: q+
14:54:15 [JanL]: q+
14:54:19 [kaz]: ... a "device" contains something
14:54:22 [francois]: zakim, mute me
14:54:22 [Zakim]: francois should now be muted
14:54:23 [igarashi]: +q
14:54:37 [Zakim]: +??P18
14:54:41 [kaz]: giuseppep: UPnP like definition?
14:54:53 [aizu]: Zakim, ??P18 is me
14:54:53 [Zakim]: +aizu; got it
14:55:08 [Zakim]: - +358.405.74aadd
14:55:13 [giuseppep]: q?
14:55:19 [kaz]: ... use cases from user perspective
14:55:26 [kaz]: ack clarke
14:55:29 [Zakim]: + +358.405.74aaee
14:55:30 [kaz]: ack matth
14:56:20 [kaz]: MattH: user centric view vs. device centric view
14:56:26 [giuseppep]: q?
14:56:38 [francois]: ack JanL
14:56:39 [kaz]: ack janl
14:57:06 [kaz]: jan: how can we use the terms with technical consistency
14:57:25 [giuseppep]: q?
14:57:37 [kaz]: giuseppep: I can provide some initial idea, and you can provide comments
14:57:40 [kaz]: ack iga
14:57:41 [Zakim]: - +358.405.74aaee
14:57:54 [kaz]: igarashi: using "device" might be good
14:58:09 [kaz]: ... but how to handle "service" on the Internet?
14:58:10 [Zakim]: + +358.405.74aaff
14:58:31 [kaz]: giuseppep: it's important to have terms list to share people's views
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14:59:00 [kaz]: ... we'll use same terminology once we've got consensus
14:59:12 [kaz]: q?
14:59:59 [giuseppep]: ISSUE-17?
14:59:59 [trackbot]: ISSUE-17 -- Use Case: DLNA/UPnP Home Network Enabled User-Agent (Browser) -- raised
14:59:59 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/track/issues/17
15:01:09 [kaz]: i/ISSUE-17?/UPnP Home Network UA/
15:01:28 [kaz]: giuseppep: more generic use case description would be better
15:01:53 [kaz]: russell: reference to specific technology?
15:03:15 [kaz]: ... can remove DLNA/UPnP
15:03:49 [Zakim]: -aizu
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15:04:41 [kaz]: giuseppep: this will go back to the previous discussion
15:04:56 [kaz]: ... you need some generic framework to let devices interact with each other
15:05:46 [kaz]: russell: ok. will restructure the description
15:05:49 [JanL]: q+
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15:06:22 [igarashi]: +q
15:06:36 [kaz]: giuseppep: we've decided we'll split the use case documents into generic part and specific part, so you can say "we'd support this specific service"
15:06:40 [kaz]: ack jan
15:06:59 [kaz]: jan: several possible scenarios
15:07:52 [Zakim]: -dcorvoysier
15:08:02 [kaz]: giuseppep: we could include both (1) list of generic use cases and (2) list of specific use cases
15:08:15 [giuseppep]: ?
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15:08:16 [kaz]: jan: will restructure my use case
15:08:17 [giuseppep]: q?
15:08:22 [kaz]: ack iga
15:08:50 [kaz]: i/jan: will/... you can generate another use case if you need/
15:09:49 [kaz]: igarashi: use cases should be use specific
15:10:19 [kaz]: ... detailed procedure on each use case would be helpful for people to understand
15:11:08 [kaz]: +q to suggest we have optional "concrete scenario" which includes detailed procedure on each use case description
15:12:26 [kaz]: jan: if we adapt a specific use case, which includes user process steps, it would be fine
15:12:52 [giuseppep]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF
15:12:53 [kaz]: ... btw, could you please send the conf code publicly?
15:13:08 [kaz]: giuseppep: it's available on the Wiki page
15:13:17 [giuseppep]: http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/HNTF/Telco
15:13:25 [kaz]: jan: need info on IRC channel etc. as well
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15:13:37 [kaz]: giuseppep: also available on the Wiki page
15:13:54 [Zakim]: -Giuseppe
15:13:55 [Zakim]: -Clarke?
15:13:55 [kaz]: [ adjourned ]
15:13:55 [Zakim]: -Russel
15:13:56 [Zakim]: -MattH
15:13:56 [Zakim]: - +358.405.74aaff
15:13:57 [Zakim]: -francois
15:13:58 [Zakim]: -JanLindquist
15:13:59 [Zakim]: - +82.10.26.09.aabb
15:14:01 [Zakim]: -Tatsuya_Igarashi
15:14:04 [Zakim]: -Kazuyuki
15:14:04 [kaz]: JanL?
15:16:41 [kaz]: Present: Kazuyuki, MarkVickers, francois, +46.1.07.13.aaaa, JanLindquist, DongHyun, DongHyun_Kang, +82.10.26.09.aabb, Matt_Hammond, +81.90.146.3.aacc, Tatsuya_Igarashi, Giuseppe, aizu, MattH, Clarke?, Bjorn_Bringert, Russel, dcorvoysier, +358.405.74aadd, Panu_Markkanen
15:16:52 [kaz]: rrsagent, make log public
15:17:02 [kaz]: rrsagent, draft minutes
15:17:02 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/24-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:18:07 [aizu]: aizu has left #webtv
15:25:11 [kaz]: Present: Kazuyuki, Mark_Vickers, Francois, JanLindquist, DongHyun_Kang, +82.10.26.09.aabb, Matt_Hammond, Tatsuya_Igarashi, Giuseppe, Aizu, MattH, Clarke, Russel, David_Corvoysier, Panu_Markkanen
15:25:15 [kaz]: rrsagent, draft minutes
15:25:15 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/24-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:25:26 [kaz]: Chair: Giuseppe
15:26:06 [kaz]: s/Web and TV Interest Group Teleconference/Home Networking Task Force Teleconference/
15:26:09 [kaz]: rrsagent, draft minutes
15:26:09 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/24-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:28:04 [kaz]: s/JanL?//
15:28:06 [kaz]: rrsagent, draft minutes
15:28:06 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/24-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:37:10 [kaz]: rrsagent, bye
15:37:10 [RRSAgent]: I see no action items