IRC log of sparql on 2011-05-10
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 77277
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- ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
- 13:58:23 [LeeF]
- zakim, this will be SPARQL
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- Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 10 May 2011
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- ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started
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- + +1.310.729.aaaa
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- +LeeF
- 13:59:01 [kasei]
- Zakim, aaaa is me
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- +kasei; got it
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- +pgearon
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- +bglimm
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- Yakim, mute me
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- Zakim, mute me
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- bglimm should now be muted
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- +[IPcaller]
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- zakim, +IPcaller is me
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- sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named '+IPcaller'
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- zakim, IPcaller is me
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- +cbuilara; got it
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- +OlivierCorby
- 14:00:21 [sandro]
- REGRETS: Sandro
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- +[IPcaller]
- 14:00:31 [LeeF]
- Regrets: Sandro, Axel
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- zakim, IPcaller is me
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- +AndyS; got it
- 14:01:10 [LeeF]
- zakim, who's here?
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- On the phone I see kasei, LeeF, pgearon, bglimm (muted), cbuilara, OlivierCorby, AndyS
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- On IRC I see MattPerry, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, cbuilara, bglimm, OlivierCorby, LeeF, SteveH, NickH, iv_an_ru__, pgearon, alepas, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro
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- +MattPerry
- 14:03:06 [AndyS]
- scribe: AndyS
- 14:03:15 [chimezie]
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- 14:03:23 [LeeF]
- topic: Admin
- 14:03:29 [AndyS]
- LeeF: This week - check on publication
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- PROPOSED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-03
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- 14:04:33 [LeeF]
- RESOLVED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-03
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- + +44.164.235.aabb
- 14:04:42 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-05-10
- 14:04:50 [chimezie]
- Zakim, passcode?
- 14:04:50 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie
- 14:04:57 [LeeF]
- Next regular meeting: 2011-05-17 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Chime)
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- LeeF at risk next week
- 14:05:14 [NickH]
- Zakim, +44.164.235.aabb is me
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- +NickH; got it
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- +chimezie
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- +alexpassant
- 14:05:53 [LeeF]
- topic: To Last Call
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- Scribe: chimezie
- 14:05:59 [AlexPassant]
- Zakim, +AlexPassant is me
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- sorry, AlexPassant, I do not recognize a party named '+AlexPassant'
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- Scribenick: chimezie
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- +??P26
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- -bglimm
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- Zakim, +??P26 is me
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- sorry, bglimm, I do not recognize a party named '+??P26'
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- Zakim, ??P26 is me
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- +bglimm; got it
- 14:07:06 [chimezie]
- LeeF: We have a go from web master
- 14:07:13 [bglimm]
- Zakim, mute me
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- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:07:20 [chimezie]
- ... any substantive issues come up to address now, prior to publication?
- 14:07:30 [AndyS]
- Not that matters - a request for IRI(xsd:string)
- 14:08:14 [bglimm]
- Olivier found some typos/mistakes yesterday, which I corrected (not required for LC I think)
- 14:08:55 [chimezie]
- LeeF: we can proceed with publication
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- + +44.208.439.aacc
- 14:09:23 [chimezie]
- LeeF: other documents. Fed query, Carlos responded to all my comments but haven't checked them
- 14:09:27 [SteveH]
- Zakim, aacc is me
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- +SteveH; got it
- 14:09:56 [chimezie]
- ... move fed query to LC next week. Won't get published with this set of documents. We have long LC period, so response period can still end with other documents
- 14:10:17 [chimezie]
- ... protocol needs work in example section
- 14:10:26 [kasei]
- I might be able to help
- 14:10:27 [chimezie]
- LeeF: any volunteers for help
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- ...?
- 14:11:26 [chimezie]
- LeeF: hopefully we can finish this in the next few weeks, so it ends LC with other documents
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- q?
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- topic: Comments
- 14:12:13 [chimezie]
- LeeF: can we dispatch open comments ?
- 14:12:24 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
- 14:12:44 [LeeF]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011May/
- 14:13:20 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:MK-1
- 14:13:23 [AxelPolleres]
- MK-1 should be ready to send, have approval from Lee on an earlier version, and andy's ok on the latest version.
- 14:13:25 [chimezie]
- LeeF: anyone reviewed Axel's response?
- 14:13:48 [AxelPolleres]
- so, unless objections, I'd send it
- 14:14:05 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres, please send
- 14:14:09 [SteveH]
- GK-1, DBeckett-1, and JB-4 all have draft responses linked from here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011AprJun/0132.html
- 14:14:38 [SteveH]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:DBeckett-1 has a link
- 14:15:22 [chimezie]
- LeeF: if got one ok in, go ahead and send
- 14:15:25 [chimezie]
- Zakim, umute me
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- I don't understand 'umute me', chimezie
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- -SteveH
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- Zakim, unmute me
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- chimezie was not muted, chimezie
- 14:17:03 [chimezie]
- q
- 14:17:18 [chimezie]
- q+ about LC process and comment response
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- ack chimezie
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- -bglimm
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- +??P26
- 14:22:34 [bglimm]
- Zakim, ??P26 is me
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- +bglimm; got it
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- Zakim, mute me
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- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:23:59 [chimezie]
- LeeF: Greg, situation with Roberts comment?
- 14:24:17 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RS-1
- 14:24:17 [chimezie]
- Greg: have a draft not sent response yet
- 14:26:15 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres, will you look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011May/0013.html and respond to the remaining open question there?
- 14:26:50 [AxelPolleres]
- yes, just asked Pter offline whether he wants a separate response on those.
- 14:27:00 [LeeF]
- AxelPolleres, ok
- 14:27:19 [AxelPolleres]
- (only one small point unclear)
- 14:27:30 [LeeF]
- SteveH, can you look at responding to RV-3?
- 14:27:31 [pgearon]
- Just finished reading Greg's response email. I'm happy with it, except for a typo in "undelying"
- 14:27:45 [kasei]
- yeah, thanks
- 14:27:57 [chimezie]
- Zakim, mute me
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- chimezie should now be muted
- 14:27:57 [pgearon]
- disclaimer: Bob is my boss
- 14:28:02 [LeeF]
- that's ok
- 14:28:20 [chimezie]
- Zakim, unmute me
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- chimezie should no longer be muted
- 14:30:48 [chimezie]
- LeeF: Greg on RV-5?
- 14:30:56 [chimezie]
- Greg: I need to address. Don't think it is a big issue
- 14:31:02 [LeeF]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jan/0029.html
- 14:33:44 [chimezie]
- Greg: (on RV-6) - Just needs clarification
- 14:35:33 [LeeF]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Feb/0013.html (Chime)
- 14:36:54 [LeeF]
- Need people to look at WG-1 and SC-2
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- -bglimm
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- +??P26
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- Zakim, +??P26 is me
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- sorry, bglimm, I do not recognize a party named '+??P26'
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- Zakim, ??P26 is me
- 14:38:28 [Zakim]
- +bglimm; got it
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- Zakim, mute me
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- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:41:52 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open
- 14:42:13 [chimezie]
- LeeF: status on actions. Carlos?
- 14:42:45 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml#sparqlGrammar
- 14:43:25 [chimezie]
- Carlos: applied comment. perhaps missing something? will check gain
- 14:43:28 [chimezie]
- s/gain/again
- 14:44:00 [chimezie]
- LeeF: action to think about federated query testing
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- close ACTION-450
- 14:44:04 [trackbot]
- ACTION-450 Check pubrules closed
- 14:44:14 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-378
- 14:44:14 [trackbot]
- ACTION-378 Let commenters with open comments know that they're not forgotten closed
- 14:45:23 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-433
- 14:45:23 [trackbot]
- ACTION-433 Work with Carlos to make sure Fed terminology is consistent with "service endpoint" as the place you poke to use a (protocol) service closed
- 14:45:33 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-392
- 14:45:33 [trackbot]
- ACTION-392 Review query closed
- 14:45:58 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-447
- 14:45:58 [trackbot]
- ACTION-447 Do pubrules check for Updates closed
- 14:46:17 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-414
- 14:46:17 [trackbot]
- ACTION-414 Check (andy's) old comments on update closed
- 14:46:45 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-451
- 14:46:45 [trackbot]
- ACTION-451 Check pubrules on entailment closed
- 14:46:52 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-438
- 14:46:52 [trackbot]
- ACTION-438 Review query draft to see if comments have been addressed appropriately closed
- 14:47:16 [bglimm]
- Zakim, unmute me
- 14:47:16 [Zakim]
- bglimm should no longer be muted
- 14:47:20 [chimezie]
- LeeF: ACTION-444?
- 14:47:23 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-444
- 14:47:23 [trackbot]
- ACTION-444 Report on outcome of entailment and SD discussion on email closed
- 14:47:26 [chimezie]
- Birte: we can close that
- 14:47:35 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-449
- 14:47:35 [trackbot]
- ACTION-449 Ping jeff one more time to ask for confirmaiton of rewordings, otherwise takes silence as agreement closed
- 14:47:41 [bglimm]
- Zakim, mute me
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- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:47:43 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-381
- 14:47:43 [trackbot]
- ACTION-381 Review Uniform HTTP Protocol closed
- 14:47:54 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-448
- 14:47:54 [trackbot]
- ACTION-448 Check pubrules on query closed
- 14:48:13 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-445
- 14:48:14 [trackbot]
- ACTION-445 Check pubrules on graph protocol doc closed
- 14:48:28 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-335
- 14:48:28 [trackbot]
- ACTION-335 Address MS-1 comment closed
- 14:48:34 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-459
- 14:48:34 [trackbot]
- ACTION-459 Send request for publication as soon as "modulo" actions are completed (and poke responsibles to complete before 6th) closed
- 14:48:39 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-416
- 14:48:39 [trackbot]
- ACTION-416 Ping greg for review as soon as Update formal semantics is ready closed
- 14:48:58 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-443
- 14:48:58 [trackbot]
- ACTION-443 Check with sandro about what's needed for publication by May 6th closed
- 14:49:02 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-418
- 14:49:02 [trackbot]
- ACTION-418 Review proprtey paths paragraph in Entailment closed
- 14:49:21 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-437
- 14:49:21 [trackbot]
- ACTION-437 Or Steve to describe use of RFC2119 language and link to RFC2119 specification or ditch RFC2119 markup closed
- 14:49:25 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-446
- 14:49:25 [trackbot]
- ACTION-446 Check pubrules for SD closed
- 14:49:42 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-439
- 14:49:42 [trackbot]
- ACTION-439 Coordinate with Lee to resolve Serv Desc dependencies on protocol document closed
- 14:49:51 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-455
- 14:49:51 [trackbot]
- ACTION-455 Add use of entailement in the examples and sample SD shown in Turtle closed
- 14:49:57 [LeeF]
- close ACTION-432
- 14:49:57 [trackbot]
- ACTION-432 Make sure SD terminology is consistent with "service endpoint" as the place you poke to use a (protocol) service closed
- 14:50:16 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/open
- 14:50:37 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/19
- 14:51:14 [LeeF]
- PROPOSE: Close ISSUE-19 based on the wording in Appendix A of the SPARQL 1.1 Update Last Call document
- 14:51:36 [pgearon]
- seconded'
- 14:51:49 [LeeF]
- RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-19 based on the wording in Appendix A of the SPARQL 1.1 Update Last Call document
- 14:52:01 [LeeF]
- ISSUE-19: RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-19 based on the wording in Appendix A of the SPARQL 1.1 Update Last Call document
- 14:52:01 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-19 Security issues on SPARQL/UPdate notes added
- 14:52:03 [LeeF]
- close ISSUE-19
- 14:52:03 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-19 Security issues on SPARQL/UPdate closed
- 14:52:19 [LeeF]
- http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/66
- 14:53:27 [Zakim]
- -bglimm
- 14:53:33 [chimezie]
- LeeF: inclination to close with no change. Other suggestions?
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- +??P0
- 14:53:52 [bglimm]
- Zakim, +??P0 is me
- 14:53:52 [Zakim]
- sorry, bglimm, I do not recognize a party named '+??P0'
- 14:53:59 [bglimm]
- Zakim, ??P0 is me
- 14:53:59 [Zakim]
- +bglimm; got it
- 14:54:07 [chimezie]
- Paul: don't think we have time, but agree it will come back
- 14:54:09 [bglimm]
- Zakim, mute me
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- bglimm should now be muted
- 14:54:10 [LeeF]
- PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-66 with no change to SPARQL 1.1 Query and mark it as a postponed issue from this WG
- 14:54:49 [kasei]
- +1
- 14:55:05 [LeeF]
- RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-66 with no change to SPARQL 1.1 Query and mark it as a postponed issue from this WG
- 14:55:14 [LeeF]
- ISSUE-66: RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-66 with no change to SPARQL 1.1 Query and mark it as a postponed issue from this WG
- 14:55:15 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-66 Should there be an ORDER BY for aggregates, particularly GROUP_CONCAT notes added
- 14:55:18 [LeeF]
- close ISSUE-66
- 14:55:18 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-66 Should there be an ORDER BY for aggregates, particularly GROUP_CONCAT closed
- 14:55:48 [Zakim]
- -LeeF
- 14:55:48 [Zakim]
- -chimezie
- 14:55:50 [Zakim]
- -bglimm
- 14:55:50 [MattPerry]
- bye
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- -alexpassant
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- -NickH
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- -cbuilara
- 14:55:54 [AndyS]
- ADJOURNED
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- -OlivierCorby
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- -MattPerry
- 14:55:59 [Zakim]
- -kasei
- 14:56:01 [Zakim]
- -pgearon
- 14:56:14 [Zakim]
- -AndyS
- 14:56:14 [Zakim]
- SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended
- 14:56:16 [Zakim]
- Attendees were +1.310.729.aaaa, LeeF, kasei, pgearon, bglimm, cbuilara, OlivierCorby, AndyS, MattPerry, NickH, chimezie, alexpassant, +44.208.439.aacc, SteveH
- 14:57:24 [LeeF]
- ACTION: Lee to record ISSUE-66 as a postponed issue
- 14:57:25 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-460 - Record ISSUE-66 as a postponed issue [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-05-17].
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