13:58:18 RRSAgent has joined #sparql 13:58:18 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/05/10-sparql-irc 13:58:20 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:58:20 Zakim has joined #sparql 13:58:22 Zakim, this will be 77277 13:58:22 ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes 13:58:23 zakim, this will be SPARQL 13:58:23 Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference 13:58:23 Date: 10 May 2011 13:58:25 ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes 13:58:32 AndyS has joined #sparql 13:58:37 SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started 13:58:44 + +1.310.729.aaaa 13:59:00 +LeeF 13:59:01 Zakim, aaaa is me 13:59:02 +kasei; got it 13:59:17 +pgearon 13:59:19 +bglimm 13:59:26 Yakim, mute me 13:59:32 Zakim, mute me 13:59:32 bglimm should now be muted 13:59:41 +[IPcaller] 13:59:49 zakim, +IPcaller is me 13:59:49 sorry, cbuilara, I do not recognize a party named '+IPcaller' 14:00:00 zakim, IPcaller is me 14:00:00 +cbuilara; got it 14:00:02 +OlivierCorby 14:00:21 REGRETS: Sandro 14:00:29 +[IPcaller] 14:00:31 Regrets: Sandro, Axel 14:00:39 MattPerry has joined #sparql 14:00:53 zakim, IPcaller is me 14:00:53 +AndyS; got it 14:01:10 zakim, who's here? 14:01:10 On the phone I see kasei, LeeF, pgearon, bglimm (muted), cbuilara, OlivierCorby, AndyS 14:01:12 On IRC I see MattPerry, AndyS, Zakim, RRSAgent, cbuilara, bglimm, OlivierCorby, LeeF, SteveH, NickH, iv_an_ru__, pgearon, alepas, ericP, kasei, trackbot, sandro 14:01:35 +MattPerry 14:03:06 scribe: AndyS 14:03:15 chimezie has joined #sparql 14:03:23 topic: Admin 14:03:29 LeeF: This week - check on publication 14:03:35 PROPOSED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-03 14:04:04 alex_ has joined #sparql 14:04:33 RESOLVED: Approve minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-05-03 14:04:36 chimezie has joined #sparql 14:04:36 + +44.164.235.aabb 14:04:42 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-05-10 14:04:50 Zakim, passcode? 14:04:50 the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), chimezie 14:04:57 Next regular meeting: 2011-05-17 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Chime) 14:05:03 LeeF at risk next week 14:05:14 Zakim, +44.164.235.aabb is me 14:05:14 +NickH; got it 14:05:32 +chimezie 14:05:46 +alexpassant 14:05:53 topic: To Last Call 14:05:57 Scribe: chimezie 14:05:59 Zakim, +AlexPassant is me 14:05:59 sorry, AlexPassant, I do not recognize a party named '+AlexPassant' 14:06:01 Scribenick: chimezie 14:06:36 +??P26 14:06:40 -bglimm 14:06:55 Zakim, +??P26 is me 14:06:55 sorry, bglimm, I do not recognize a party named '+??P26' 14:07:02 Zakim, ??P26 is me 14:07:02 +bglimm; got it 14:07:06 LeeF: We have a go from web master 14:07:13 Zakim, mute me 14:07:13 bglimm should now be muted 14:07:20 ... any substantive issues come up to address now, prior to publication? 14:07:30 Not that matters - a request for IRI(xsd:string) 14:08:14 Olivier found some typos/mistakes yesterday, which I corrected (not required for LC I think) 14:08:55 LeeF: we can proceed with publication 14:09:18 + +44.208.439.aacc 14:09:23 LeeF: other documents. Fed query, Carlos responded to all my comments but haven't checked them 14:09:27 Zakim, aacc is me 14:09:27 +SteveH; got it 14:09:56 ... move fed query to LC next week. Won't get published with this set of documents. We have long LC period, so response period can still end with other documents 14:10:17 ... protocol needs work in example section 14:10:26 I might be able to help 14:10:27 LeeF: any volunteers for help 14:10:32 ...? 14:11:26 LeeF: hopefully we can finish this in the next few weeks, so it ends LC with other documents 14:11:27 AxelPolleres has joined #sparql 14:11:46 q? 14:11:51 topic: Comments 14:12:13 LeeF: can we dispatch open comments ? 14:12:24 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments 14:12:44 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011May/ 14:13:20 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:MK-1 14:13:23 MK-1 should be ready to send, have approval from Lee on an earlier version, and andy's ok on the latest version. 14:13:25 LeeF: anyone reviewed Axel's response? 14:13:48 so, unless objections, I'd send it 14:14:05 AxelPolleres, please send 14:14:09 GK-1, DBeckett-1, and JB-4 all have draft responses linked from here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011AprJun/0132.html 14:14:38 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:DBeckett-1 has a link 14:15:22 LeeF: if got one ok in, go ahead and send 14:15:25 Zakim, umute me 14:15:25 I don't understand 'umute me', chimezie 14:16:07 chimezie has joined #sparql 14:16:16 -SteveH 14:16:53 Zakim, unmute me 14:16:53 chimezie was not muted, chimezie 14:17:03 q 14:17:18 q+ about LC process and comment response 14:20:06 ack chimezie 14:21:47 -bglimm 14:22:25 +??P26 14:22:34 Zakim, ??P26 is me 14:22:34 +bglimm; got it 14:22:40 Zakim, mute me 14:22:40 bglimm should now be muted 14:23:59 LeeF: Greg, situation with Roberts comment? 14:24:17 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:RS-1 14:24:17 Greg: have a draft not sent response yet 14:26:15 AxelPolleres, will you look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011May/0013.html and respond to the remaining open question there? 14:26:50 yes, just asked Pter offline whether he wants a separate response on those. 14:27:00 AxelPolleres, ok 14:27:19 (only one small point unclear) 14:27:30 SteveH, can you look at responding to RV-3? 14:27:31 Just finished reading Greg's response email. I'm happy with it, except for a typo in "undelying" 14:27:45 yeah, thanks 14:27:57 Zakim, mute me 14:27:57 chimezie should now be muted 14:27:57 disclaimer: Bob is my boss 14:28:02 that's ok 14:28:20 Zakim, unmute me 14:28:20 chimezie should no longer be muted 14:30:48 LeeF: Greg on RV-5? 14:30:56 Greg: I need to address. Don't think it is a big issue 14:31:02 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jan/0029.html 14:33:44 Greg: (on RV-6) - Just needs clarification 14:35:33 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Feb/0013.html (Chime) 14:36:54 Need people to look at WG-1 and SC-2 14:37:44 -bglimm 14:38:06 +??P26 14:38:16 Zakim, +??P26 is me 14:38:16 sorry, bglimm, I do not recognize a party named '+??P26' 14:38:28 Zakim, ??P26 is me 14:38:28 +bglimm; got it 14:38:35 Zakim, mute me 14:38:35 bglimm should now be muted 14:41:52 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open 14:42:13 LeeF: status on actions. Carlos? 14:42:45 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/fed/service.xml#sparqlGrammar 14:43:25 Carlos: applied comment. perhaps missing something? will check gain 14:43:28 s/gain/again 14:44:00 LeeF: action to think about federated query testing 14:44:04 close ACTION-450 14:44:04 ACTION-450 Check pubrules closed 14:44:14 close ACTION-378 14:44:14 ACTION-378 Let commenters with open comments know that they're not forgotten closed 14:45:23 close ACTION-433 14:45:23 ACTION-433 Work with Carlos to make sure Fed terminology is consistent with "service endpoint" as the place you poke to use a (protocol) service closed 14:45:33 close ACTION-392 14:45:33 ACTION-392 Review query closed 14:45:58 close ACTION-447 14:45:58 ACTION-447 Do pubrules check for Updates closed 14:46:17 close ACTION-414 14:46:17 ACTION-414 Check (andy's) old comments on update closed 14:46:45 close ACTION-451 14:46:45 ACTION-451 Check pubrules on entailment closed 14:46:52 close ACTION-438 14:46:52 ACTION-438 Review query draft to see if comments have been addressed appropriately closed 14:47:16 Zakim, unmute me 14:47:16 bglimm should no longer be muted 14:47:20 LeeF: ACTION-444? 14:47:23 close ACTION-444 14:47:23 ACTION-444 Report on outcome of entailment and SD discussion on email closed 14:47:26 Birte: we can close that 14:47:35 close ACTION-449 14:47:35 ACTION-449 Ping jeff one more time to ask for confirmaiton of rewordings, otherwise takes silence as agreement closed 14:47:41 Zakim, mute me 14:47:41 bglimm should now be muted 14:47:43 close ACTION-381 14:47:43 ACTION-381 Review Uniform HTTP Protocol closed 14:47:54 close ACTION-448 14:47:54 ACTION-448 Check pubrules on query closed 14:48:13 close ACTION-445 14:48:14 ACTION-445 Check pubrules on graph protocol doc closed 14:48:28 close ACTION-335 14:48:28 ACTION-335 Address MS-1 comment closed 14:48:34 close ACTION-459 14:48:34 ACTION-459 Send request for publication as soon as "modulo" actions are completed (and poke responsibles to complete before 6th) closed 14:48:39 close ACTION-416 14:48:39 ACTION-416 Ping greg for review as soon as Update formal semantics is ready closed 14:48:58 close ACTION-443 14:48:58 ACTION-443 Check with sandro about what's needed for publication by May 6th closed 14:49:02 close ACTION-418 14:49:02 ACTION-418 Review proprtey paths paragraph in Entailment closed 14:49:21 close ACTION-437 14:49:21 ACTION-437 Or Steve to describe use of RFC2119 language and link to RFC2119 specification or ditch RFC2119 markup closed 14:49:25 close ACTION-446 14:49:25 ACTION-446 Check pubrules for SD closed 14:49:42 close ACTION-439 14:49:42 ACTION-439 Coordinate with Lee to resolve Serv Desc dependencies on protocol document closed 14:49:51 close ACTION-455 14:49:51 ACTION-455 Add use of entailement in the examples and sample SD shown in Turtle closed 14:49:57 close ACTION-432 14:49:57 ACTION-432 Make sure SD terminology is consistent with "service endpoint" as the place you poke to use a (protocol) service closed 14:50:16 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/open 14:50:37 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/19 14:51:14 PROPOSE: Close ISSUE-19 based on the wording in Appendix A of the SPARQL 1.1 Update Last Call document 14:51:36 seconded' 14:51:49 RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-19 based on the wording in Appendix A of the SPARQL 1.1 Update Last Call document 14:52:01 ISSUE-19: RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-19 based on the wording in Appendix A of the SPARQL 1.1 Update Last Call document 14:52:01 ISSUE-19 Security issues on SPARQL/UPdate notes added 14:52:03 close ISSUE-19 14:52:03 ISSUE-19 Security issues on SPARQL/UPdate closed 14:52:19 http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/66 14:53:27 -bglimm 14:53:33 LeeF: inclination to close with no change. Other suggestions? 14:53:45 +??P0 14:53:52 Zakim, +??P0 is me 14:53:52 sorry, bglimm, I do not recognize a party named '+??P0' 14:53:59 Zakim, ??P0 is me 14:53:59 +bglimm; got it 14:54:07 Paul: don't think we have time, but agree it will come back 14:54:09 Zakim, mute me 14:54:09 bglimm should now be muted 14:54:10 PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-66 with no change to SPARQL 1.1 Query and mark it as a postponed issue from this WG 14:54:49 +1 14:55:05 RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-66 with no change to SPARQL 1.1 Query and mark it as a postponed issue from this WG 14:55:14 ISSUE-66: RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-66 with no change to SPARQL 1.1 Query and mark it as a postponed issue from this WG 14:55:15 ISSUE-66 Should there be an ORDER BY for aggregates, particularly GROUP_CONCAT notes added 14:55:18 close ISSUE-66 14:55:18 ISSUE-66 Should there be an ORDER BY for aggregates, particularly GROUP_CONCAT closed 14:55:48 -LeeF 14:55:48 -chimezie 14:55:50 -bglimm 14:55:50 bye 14:55:52 -alexpassant 14:55:53 -NickH 14:55:53 -cbuilara 14:55:54 ADJOURNED 14:55:55 -OlivierCorby 14:55:57 -MattPerry 14:55:59 -kasei 14:56:01 -pgearon 14:56:14 -AndyS 14:56:14 SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended 14:56:16 Attendees were +1.310.729.aaaa, LeeF, kasei, pgearon, bglimm, cbuilara, OlivierCorby, AndyS, MattPerry, NickH, chimezie, alexpassant, +44.208.439.aacc, SteveH 14:57:24 ACTION: Lee to record ISSUE-66 as a postponed issue 14:57:25 Created ACTION-460 - Record ISSUE-66 as a postponed issue [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-05-17]. 14:59:08 AxelPolleres has joined #sparql 15:14:52 AxelPolleres has joined #sparql 15:16:32 AxelPolleres has joined #sparql 15:40:03 AxelPolleres has left #sparql 16:57:03 Zakim has left #sparql 17:29:26 AxelPolleres has joined #sparql 17:32:22 LeeF has joined #sparql