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17:33:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
17:33:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
17:33:42 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
17:33:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
17:33:43 <trackbot> Date: 05 May 2011
17:33:56 <Zakim> ok, shepazu; conference Team_(webapps)17:33Z scheduled with code 26632 (CONF2) for 60 minutes until 1833Z
17:34:20 <Zakim> Team_(webapps)17:33Z has now started
17:34:27 <Zakim> +Doug_Schepers
17:35:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
17:35:22 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:35:32 <smaug> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
17:35:32 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
17:37:02 <smaug> Scribe: Olli_Pettay
17:37:12 <smaug> Topic: keyboard events
17:37:46 <smaug> shepazu: I updated the spec based on hallword's (spelling?) notes 
17:40:16 <jrossi> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#keys-keyCode-charCode-which
17:41:14 <smaug> shepazu: added supplementary idl for charCode/keyCode/which 
17:42:17 <smaug> shepazu: there lots of legacy stuff we don't need to specify, but legacy keyboard events are mainstream 
17:43:23 <smaug> shepazu: not making it normative though 
17:46:54 <smaug> shepazu: it is not appendix because I wanted to keep it there near other keyboard stuff
17:47:53 <smaug> shepazu: will change it to appendix
17:49:57 <smaug> smaug: I'd suggest not using KeyboardEvent, but LegacyKeyboardEvent
17:51:08 <smaug> jrossi: Why not switch to WebIDL?
17:51:39 <smaug> shepazu: WebIDL is not stable enough yet
17:53:09 <smaug> jrossi: about WDC vs D3E
17:53:34 <smaug> jrossi: I have a testpage about that
17:54:45 <smaug> jrossi: D3E doesn't need to restrict what the event type string can be
17:56:21 <smaug> smaug: I agree
17:57:13 <smaug> smaug: the other difference is the exceptions from dispatchEvent
17:57:33 <smaug> jrossi: I like keeping the two different exceptions
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18:03:57 <jrossi> issue-178?
18:03:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-178 -- Implementations and DOM Core allow empty string and null event types -- raised
18:03:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/178
18:04:44 <smaug> resolution: accept the change request issue-178
18:05:54 <jrossi> issue-179?
18:05:54 <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- DOM Core uses INVALID_STATE_ERR (DOMException) where D3E uses DISPATCH_REQUEST_ERR (EventException) -- raised
18:05:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/179
18:07:05 <smaug> resolution: it is useful to have separate exceptions for for different cases
18:08:17 <smaug> Topic: WDC
18:14:29 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
18:14:30 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
18:14:34 <Zakim> -Doug_Schepers
18:14:35 <Zakim> Team_(webapps)17:33Z has ended
18:14:37 <Zakim> Attendees were Doug_Schepers, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay
18:55:26 <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
18:55:26 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
18:55:26 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
18:55:27 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:55:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/05-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
18:55:28 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
18:55:28 <RRSAgent> I see no action items