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16:59:47 <michel> zakim, this is tmo
16:59:47 <Zakim> ok, michel; that matches SW_HCLS(TMO)11:00AM
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17:01:13 <Bob> scribenick Bob
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17:05:03 <Amit> #HealthIT HHS inv wkshp on Next Gen Interop for Health attended by key policy makers, PCAST http://bit.ly/dIaki0 & #semanticweb on agenda
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17:05:25 <Bob> Amit: Workshop organized by HHS
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17:06:53 <Zakim> + +62427aadd
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17:06:59 <Amit> My talk w/ Ora on #semanticweb for 360deg health: http://slidesha.re/health360 at HHS inv workshop for Health Interop #knoesis #HealthIT
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17:10:06 <Bob> Michel: Home stretch for the paper
17:10:37 <Amit> is there a draft to look at - just for my fyi
17:11:07 <Bob> Christi and Joanne discuss Latex etc
17:12:54 <Bob> Jim McCusker is suggesting to look at http://docs.latexlab.org/
17:13:14 <Zakim> -Christi
17:13:34 <Bob> Michel: Response to reviewers
17:13:50 <Bob> Joanne: All addressed
17:13:57 <Zakim> +Christi
17:17:16 <Bob> Christi can relax now.
17:18:00 <Bob> Michel: Great job everybody! Papers are good motivators for getting concrete done.
17:18:06 <Amit> even if it is too late for me to contribute for this one, can I get a sneak peek?
17:21:23 <Bob> Michel: Requirements for AMIA preparation
17:21:59 <Bob> Joanne: No deadline. Challenge is how to demo an ontology
17:22:53 <Bob> ... talk is March 8, session at 10:30AM
17:24:11 <Bob> ... perhaps show what queries you can answer w/wOut
17:24:31 <Bob> Michel: Longitudinal queries
17:24:52 <Bob> ... db or recorded side effects.  Sider may not have timelines
17:25:19 <Bob> ... at granularity of query, presentation on a timeline, what data will appear?
17:25:28 <Joanne> check this out: http://sparql.tw.rpi.edu/?page_id=57
17:25:33 <Bob> ... timelines more interesting than spatial data
17:26:27 <Zakim> -Christi
17:26:30 <Joanne> http://sparql.tw.rpi.edu/
17:26:58 <Bob> Joanne: We have started some visualizations here
17:27:06 <Zakim> +Christi
17:27:54 <michel> http://sparql.tw.rpi.edu/?p=32
17:28:00 <michel> timeline demo
17:30:31 <Bob> Scott: Two datasets have come: one from IO Informatics, kidney transplant data
17:30:45 <michel> scott: triplemap - sneak preview
17:30:46 <Bob> ... includes microarray data
17:31:20 <Bob> ... also proteomics data for those patients
17:32:05 <Bob> ... Another source of data is UPitt, gotten approval for 1000s records of clincial reports
17:32:28 <Bob> ... gathered for NLP research
17:32:35 <michel> http://nlp.dbmi.pitt.edu/nlprepository.html
17:32:56 <Bob> relates also to Terminology concern w. clinical reports
17:33:33 <Bob> ... thru Richard there is a whole load of data available to uus
17:35:12 <Bob> Michel: Relfinder(?) tool
17:35:30 <mscottm> Fullname: Richard Boyce, of Univ. of Pittsburgh
17:35:51 <Bob> Joanne: i2b2 challenge is really an NLP challenge
17:36:09 <Bob> ... interesting if we could show how semweb fits here
17:36:58 <Joanne> https://www.i2b2.org/NLP/DataSets/Main.php
17:37:24 <Joanne> https://www.i2b2.org/NLP/Coreference/Call.php
17:37:29 <Bob> Michel: Amit, how should we present integrating patient data w. LOD?
17:37:39 <Joanne> it deals with discharge summaries
17:37:46 <Bob> Amit: Do you have a handle on the quality?
17:38:15 <Bob> Michel: There are corresponding references into LODD
17:38:39 <Bob> Amit: Need to look at if from the perspective of the clinician
17:38:51 <Bob> ... see it in a doctor's use case scenario
17:39:14 <Bob> ... why am I paying the doctor if he's just googling? :)
17:39:36 <Bob> ... need a new, very specific use case.
17:39:56 <Bob> ... and also handle the quality of the outcome, plus timeliness
17:40:21 <Bob> ... otherwise hazard: CS telling us what to do!
17:40:39 <Bob> Michel: How does this IT really help
17:40:45 <Amit> http://knoesis.wright.edu/library/download/S+2008-ASEMR-chapter6.pdf
17:41:06 <Bob> Amit: Deployed Jan 2006, still being used
17:41:18 <Joanne> They are complementary, the clinician and the computer
17:42:06 <Joanne> that is the fear - being told what to do, which is one reason that decision SUPPORT is more accepable
17:43:30 <Bob> Amit: Clinicial wants to see a result in 15 min, time is the cost driver
17:43:33 <Joanne> You're paying the doctor to look at the patient. Because the clician's eyes are trained - they can see if you look sick, feel your energy. computers are no supbstitue for that (- though I can imagine some skin sensors and combination of biometrics)
17:43:58 <Bob> Amit: Start out w. something that grabs them
17:44:26 <Bob> Michel: We seem to be focussed more for clinical research rather than clinical practice
17:45:08 <Bob> ... perhaps we are in a mid-range rather than in clinical practice
17:46:16 <Bob> Amit: Demonstrate on chemo-genetics.
17:46:43 <Bob> ... number of adverse events or number of drugs to be considered can be drastically reduced
17:47:11 <Bob> ... look at the quality of results (better Type 1 performance?)
17:47:17 <Amit> http://knoesis.org/library/demos/
17:48:35 <Bob> Amit: Ex of how semantic solution improved the quality
17:50:27 <Bob> Joanne: AMIA would be awesome
17:50:51 <Bob> ... demonstration! would be awesome
17:51:58 <Joanne> https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0ARi7AC7gwFMMZGhja3J0NTRfMjgxYzZtaHBqZjY&hl=en&authkey=COSpo7oL
17:52:22 <Bob> Michel: Scott and I want to work on SNPs
17:52:54 <Bob> ... URIs for APOE.
17:53:06 <Bob> Scott: Matthias is also interested
17:53:30 <Zakim> -Christi
17:54:34 <Bob> Michel: We should have a discussion re SNP. Previously did some work re depression
17:54:50 <Bob> ... Adrian Coulet also has a model for SNPs
17:55:17 <Bob> ... start collecting models for SNP representation
17:55:51 <Bob> Michel: AOG
17:55:55 <Bob> AOB
17:56:07 <Bob> Scott: What to do w. new data
17:56:33 <Bob> Michel: Maybe start wiki pages for better focus
17:56:47 <Bob> ... will create page for SNPs
17:56:48 <Joanne> You should have access to the presentation google doc now- pls check
17:57:57 <Bob> Joanne: Partner-up w. a hospital, more direct involvement?
17:58:46 <Bob> Michel: Chime.
17:59:06 <Bob> ... CPR will re-start shortly
17:59:22 <Bob> Joanne: Look at i2b2 challenge too
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18:01:16 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.317.433.aaaa, Bob_Powers, michel, Christi, Amit, Joanne_Luciano, +62427aadd, +1.781.431.aaee, +1.302.598.aaff
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