IRC log of webapps on 2011-02-04
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- 18:01:23 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-irc
- 18:01:25 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
- 18:01:27 [trackbot]
- Zakim, this will be DOM3
- 18:01:27 [Zakim]
- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
- 18:01:28 [trackbot]
- Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 04 February 2011
- 18:01:49 [Zakim]
- Team_(webapps)18:01Z has now started
- 18:01:50 [Zakim]
- +Shepazu
- 18:03:31 [Zakim]
- +[IPcaller]
- 18:03:57 [smaug_]
- Zakim, [IPcaller]
- 18:03:57 [Zakim]
- I don't understand '[IPcaller]', smaug_
- 18:04:01 [smaug_]
- Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
- 18:04:01 [Zakim]
- +Olli_Pettay; got it
- 18:08:42 [shepazu]
- Zakim, code?
- 18:08:42 [Zakim]
- the conference code is 26631 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), shepazu
- 18:11:02 [Zakim]
- +[Microsoft]
- 18:11:34 [jrossi]
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- 18:12:58 [shepazu]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/2
- 18:19:27 [jrossi2]
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- 18:19:33 [jrossi2]
- scribenick: jrossi2
- 18:19:56 [jrossi2]
- ISSUE:140 textInput event as default action of both keydown and keypress
- 18:19:56 [trackbot]
- Sorry, bad ISSUE syntax
- 18:20:22 [jrossi2]
- ISSUE140: textInput as default action of keydown and keypress
- 18:20:23 [shepazu]
- issue-140?
- 18:20:23 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-140 -- textInput event as default action of both keydown and keypress? -- raised
- 18:20:23 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/140
- 18:21:03 [jrossi2]
- shepazu: suggestion is that keydown's default action is keypress, and keypress's default action textinput
- 18:21:14 [jrossi2]
- jrossi: agree
- 18:21:34 [jrossi2]
- RESOLUTION: make keydown's default action keypress and keypress's default action textinput
- 18:21:34 [smaug_]
- I agree
- 18:21:51 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: how about mouse events?
- 18:22:17 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: where do we, or should we, define click as default action of mouseup
- 18:23:54 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: I'll investigate current behavior
- 18:24:16 [jrossi2]
- shepazu: you find that out, and I'll put it in the spec
- 18:24:22 [jrossi2]
- ISSUE-141?
- 18:24:22 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-141 -- IME examples -- raised
- 18:24:22 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/141
- 18:27:10 [MikeSmith]
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- 18:28:09 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: this is doable, we ran into this issue
- 18:28:21 [Lachy]
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- 18:28:23 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: I can research how we implemented this and send info to the list
- 18:28:44 [smaug_]
- ACTION: Olli_Pettay to test mousedown/mouseup default handling (focus and click events at least)
- 18:28:44 [trackbot]
- Sorry, couldn't find user - Olli_Pettay
- 18:29:01 [shepazu]
- action: jrossi2 to research how MS implemented issue-141 and send info to the list
- 18:29:03 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-614 - Research how MS implemented issue-141 and send info to the list [on Jacob Rossi - due 2011-02-11].
- 18:30:17 [jrossi2]
- ISSUE-142?
- 18:30:17 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-142 -- one keydown might fire multiple keypress/textInput events -- raised
- 18:30:17 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/142
- 18:30:21 [shepazu]
- ISSUE-142?
- 18:30:21 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-142 -- one keydown might fire multiple keypress/textInput events -- raised
- 18:30:21 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/142
- 18:30:29 [jrossi2]
- RESOLUTION: agree and we'll change that
- 18:30:54 [shepazu]
- ISSUE-144?
- 18:30:55 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-144 -- exceptions in handlers during event propagation -- raised
- 18:30:55 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/144
- 18:35:01 [jrossi2]
- jrossi:2: I think all that's needed here is to specify that exceptions in event handlers don't stop propagtion
- 18:35:16 [jrossi2]
- smaug_: agree
- 18:35:38 [jrossi2]
- RESOLUTION: clarify that event propagation still continues even if there are exceptions in event handlers
- 18:36:04 [shepazu]
- ISSUE-145?
- 18:36:04 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-145 -- Ordering event handlers registered by different means -- raised
- 18:36:04 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/145
- 18:38:59 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: it's in the order they are registered, for event attributes it's when the attr is set
- 18:39:12 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: so at parsing, if they are already in the markup
- 18:41:41 [jrossi2]
- RESOLUTION: event order is in the order of when handlers are registered, whether at parse time or execution time
- 18:42:32 [jrossi2]
- issue-146?
- 18:42:32 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-146 -- Capture-phase listeners invoked on targets -- raised
- 18:42:32 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/146
- 18:43:34 [smaug_]
- http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-EventTarget-addEventListener
- 18:44:04 [jrossi2]
- smaug_: this is fixed
- 18:44:51 [jrossi2]
- issue-147?
- 18:44:51 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-147 -- re-dispatching an event that already has its flow started -- raised
- 18:44:51 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/147
- 18:45:14 [jrossi2]
- RESOLUTION: clarify that this is in the spec and get a response from sergey
- 18:45:24 [shepazu]
- ISSUE-153?
- 18:45:24 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-153 -- Converting wheel events to mousewheel and DOMMouseScroll -- raised
- 18:45:24 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/153
- 18:47:34 [jrossi2]
- RESOLUTION: clarify platforms can vary, update example code, and mark just as informative
- 18:48:53 [shepazu]
- ISSUE-154?
- 18:48:53 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-154 -- Clarify diagonal wheel deltas on wheel events -- raised
- 18:48:53 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/154
- 18:55:42 [jrossi2]
- jrossi2: Windows has separate message for HSCROLL and VSCROLL, so I'm mostly certain we fire these separately
- 18:56:40 [jrossi2]
- smaug_: OSX may allow events to fire with both axes
- 18:57:01 [jrossi2]
- RESOLUTION: clarify that this environment specific
- 18:57:59 [shepazu]
- ISSUE-157?
- 18:57:59 [trackbot]
- ISSUE-157 -- Problems with initKeyboardEvent -- raised
- 18:57:59 [trackbot]
- http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/157
- 19:00:06 [Zakim]
- -[Microsoft]
- 19:00:09 [shepazu]
- trackbot, end telcon
- 19:00:09 [trackbot]
- Zakim, list attendees
- 19:00:09 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been Shepazu, Olli_Pettay, [Microsoft]
- 19:00:10 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 19:00:10 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
- 19:00:11 [trackbot]
- RRSAgent, bye
- 19:00:11 [RRSAgent]
- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-actions.rdf :
- 19:00:11 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Olli_Pettay to test mousedown/mouseup default handling (focus and click events at least) [1]
- 19:00:11 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-irc#T18-28-44
- 19:00:11 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: jrossi2 to research how MS implemented issue-141 and send info to the list [2]
- 19:00:11 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-irc#T18-29-01
- 19:00:16 [Zakim]
- -Olli_Pettay
- 19:00:21 [Zakim]
- -Shepazu