IRC log of rdb2rdf on 2011-02-01

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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 7322733
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ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 23 minutes
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Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:37:26 [trackbot]
Date: 01 February 2011
16:37:34 [mhausenblas]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Jan/0080.html
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Chair: Michael
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Zakim, code?
17:00:54 [Zakim]
the conference code is 7322733 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), mhausenblas
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SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
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+boris
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+juansequeda
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+mhausenblas
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+ +1.636.544.aaaa
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+Ashok_Malhotra
17:02:04 [boris]
who is here
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zakim, who is here
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boris, you need to end that query with '?'
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+souri
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zakim, who is here?
17:02:28 [Zakim]
On the phone I see boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, +1.636.544.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, souri
17:02:31 [Zakim]
On IRC I see soeren, Souri, juansequeda, boris, Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, cygri, mhausenblas, ivan, MacTed, LeeF, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
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+ +1.284.612.aabb
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+Alexandre
17:03:16 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, +1.636.544.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, souri, +1.284.612.aabb, Alexandre
17:03:18 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Seema, soeren, Souri, juansequeda, boris, Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, cygri, mhausenblas, ivan, MacTed, LeeF, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:03:20 [Zakim]
+ +1.603.891.aacc
17:03:44 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aacc is Seema
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+Seema; got it
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17:04:08 [ericP]
Zakim, please dial ericP-office
17:04:08 [Zakim]
ok, ericP; the call is being made
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+EricP
17:04:26 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aaaa is dmcneil
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+dmcneil; got it
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Zakim, aabb is soeren
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+soeren; got it
17:04:55 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, pick a victim
17:04:55 [Zakim]
Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose boris
17:05:11 [boris]
so
17:05:36 [mhausenblas]
scribenick: cygri
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-soeren
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Jan/0080.html
17:05:57 [cygri]
Topic: 1. Admin
17:06:04 [mhausenblas]
PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see
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http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
17:06:16 [Zakim]
+ +886201aadd
17:06:26 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, aadd is soeren
17:06:26 [Zakim]
+soeren; got it
17:06:32 [ivan]
zakim, dial ivan-voip
17:06:32 [Zakim]
ok, ivan; the call is being made
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+Ivan
17:06:49 [soeren]
+1
17:06:49 [boris]
I+1
17:06:50 [juansequeda]
+1
17:06:50 [betehess]
+1
17:06:52 [cygri]
RESOLUTION: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
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Topic: 2. Direct Mapping status
17:07:15 [mhausenblas]
regrets+ Marcelo
17:07:22 [cygri]
ACTION-85?
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ACTION-85 -- Ted Thibodeau to review Direct Mapping ED -- due 2011-02-01 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/85
17:07:28 [mhausenblas]
regrets+ Percy
17:07:55 [mhausenblas]
Zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, dmcneil, Ashok_Malhotra, souri, Alexandre, Seema, EricP, soeren, Ivan
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On IRC I see dmcneil, Seema, soeren, Souri, juansequeda, boris, Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, cygri, mhausenblas, ivan, MacTed, LeeF, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:08:02 [mhausenblas]
MacTed?
17:08:24 [mhausenblas]
drop ACTION-85
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close ACTION-85
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ACTION-85 Review Direct Mapping ED closed
17:08:34 [juansequeda]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/
17:09:05 [mhausenblas]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/raised
17:09:33 [cygri]
mhausenblas: let's go through raised issues for the direct mapping
17:09:49 [cygri]
... for each issue, let's get them from "raised" to "open", "postponed", "closed" etc
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/9
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ISSUE-9?
17:09:58 [trackbot]
ISSUE-9 -- Generate Blank Nodes for duplicate tuples -- raised
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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/9
17:10:46 [cygri]
juansequeda: Marcelo and I currently use a predicate that states the cardinality
17:11:03 [cygri]
... in section 4.1, 4.2
17:11:05 [betehess]
q+
17:11:11 [cygri]
... we ask people to review this
17:11:14 [mhausenblas]
ack betehess
17:11:49 [cygri]
betehess: let's be careful not to call this solved, it interacts with other issues i have in the queue
17:11:58 [mhausenblas]
Michael: looks like we should change the issue 9 from raised to open
17:13:43 [cygri]
betehess: i don't understand how to play with the datalog rules in order to execute them
17:14:06 [cygri]
mhausenblas: let's not do very generic issues
17:14:50 [betehess]
uri?
17:14:55 [juansequeda]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/
17:14:56 [cygri]
juansequeda: we added examples for 4.1 and 4.2
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... that should help clarify. if there are still problems with this, please raise
17:15:32 [cygri]
ericP: test cases please
17:15:32 [mhausenblas]
Michael: I encourage everyone to raise issues no matter if there exists something on not, as long as it is concrete enough, please go ahead
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betehess: i don't recognize RDB or RDF in the rules
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Zakim, nunolopes is with mhausenblas
17:16:00 [Zakim]
+nunolopes; got it
17:16:08 [ivan]
q+
17:16:10 [cygri]
juansequeda: RDB model is just some predicates
17:16:43 [cygri]
betehess: i don't think it's well-defined. two solutions in the document that work with sort of different data models
17:16:55 [cygri]
... rdb model is more than just predicates
17:17:11 [cygri]
... in datalog you need to state facts. i don't see this in the current version
17:17:16 [cygri]
... it's not exactly datalog
17:17:35 [cygri]
... don't see how to go from rdb to rdf using this
17:17:58 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:17:59 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:18:27 [cygri]
ivan: the document says that we present rules in datalog *syntax*, so it may not use the formal mathematical model
17:18:42 [cygri]
... it's just a set of rules. that's fine
17:19:05 [cygri]
... we should show that both formalism lead to same triples from same db
17:19:13 [juansequeda]
+1 to a lot of testcases
17:19:22 [cygri]
... how to do that? a boatload of testcases
17:20:06 [cygri]
mhausenblas: yes we need test cases to proceed. how to get them?
17:20:13 [boris]
q?
17:20:19 [cygri]
ivan: we started with specific issues. put them in the issue list.
17:20:53 [cygri]
... juan, are there ways for getting those rules rolling in a specific system? the other formalism has an implementation
17:21:03 [mhausenblas]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/All_Cases_for_Default_Mapping
17:21:06 [cygri]
... if we had a processor, we could run them side by side
17:21:27 [cygri]
mhausenblas: could this writeup be used as input for test cases? http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/All_Cases_for_Default_Mapping
17:21:37 [boris]
q+
17:21:43 [cygri]
juansequeda: just a list of cases that had to be managed
17:22:30 [cygri]
... rules don't need to be implemented. it's an if-then case
17:22:41 [cygri]
ivan: we have to prove they do the same thing. how else would we do that?
17:23:04 [mhausenblas]
ack boris
17:23:06 [Souri]
q+
17:23:19 [cygri]
juansequeda: this just specifies some cases. if this, then that. doesn't have to be implemented using a rules engine. we don't expect people to do that
17:23:30 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:23:48 [cygri]
boris: we started with very simple test cases, want to get on to more complex ones
17:23:59 [cygri]
mhausenblas: probably we want to prioritize direct mapping test cases
17:24:00 [ericP]
TaskAssignments
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7 "pencil survey" "accounting" "Cambridge"
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NULL "pencil survey" "accounting" "Cambridge"
17:24:01 [mhausenblas]
ack Souri
17:24:28 [cygri]
Souri: as a practitioner, my experience is that blank nodes cause lots of problems
17:24:36 [cygri]
... let's minimize generation of blank nodes
17:24:52 [soeren]
+1
17:25:11 [cygri]
... we need to generate a unique label anyways. then we could just make a URI from it. makes life easier for implementers
17:25:17 [ericP]
note that the above table preserves UNIQUE(worker, project), but not PRIMARY KEY(worker, project)
17:25:57 [ericP]
q+ to say that unresolvable identifiers create issues
17:26:20 [cygri]
... bnodes are local symbols in a graph, so if you make two triples in different graphs from same row, they don't merge
17:26:27 [mhausenblas]
ack ericP
17:26:27 [Zakim]
ericP, you wanted to say that unresolvable identifiers create issues
17:26:51 [cygri]
ericP: we can't calculate the same blank node twice
17:27:04 [Ashok]
He just wants to distinguish between blank nodes
17:27:10 [cygri]
... blank nodes are unpleasant in rdf
17:27:20 [cygri]
... lack of commitment towards identifiers
17:27:41 [ivan]
+1 to eric
17:28:04 [cygri]
... bnodes should be used for identifiers that you're not going to remember for future responses
17:28:11 [mhausenblas]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/raised
17:28:32 [cygri]
mhausenblas: how should we proceed with the issues?
17:28:42 [cygri]
juansequeda: let's go through them one by one, open them
17:28:54 [cygri]
mhausenblas: PROPSOAL: change ISSUE-9 to OPEN
17:29:14 [Souri]
I'd like the issue of use or non-use of bNodes to be raised as an issue so that we can discuss it later
17:29:16 [cygri]
soeren: rename it to "avoid blank nodes"?
17:29:18 [ericP]
+1
17:29:23 [soeren]
+1
17:29:25 [ivan]
+1
17:29:42 [boris]
+1
17:29:56 [mhausenblas]
s/PROPSOAL/PROPOSAL
17:30:10 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-9 to OPEN
17:30:35 [cygri]
RESOLVED: change ISSUE-9 to OPEN
17:30:40 [mhausenblas]
ISSUE-10?
17:30:41 [trackbot]
ISSUE-10 -- Hash vs Slash -- raised
17:30:41 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/10
17:30:43 [ericP]
open
17:31:27 [cygri]
ericP: there's this linked data fury going on
17:31:43 [cygri]
... long and contentious issue about uris
17:32:00 [cygri]
... have an rdf file that has a node in it that identifies what you're talking about
17:32:18 [cygri]
... and label that node with a relative hash URI
17:33:16 [cygri]
... or alternative: don't use a hash, but just a slash URI, and a GET does http redirect to the file URI
17:33:36 [ivan]
q+
17:33:36 [cygri]
... one is clearer, one is simpler
17:33:47 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:34:20 [cygri]
ivan: i see direct graph as intermediate graph, where i use rules or something else to transform it into something i really like
17:34:21 [cygri]
q+
17:34:38 [cygri]
... that's my impression. might be rat hole
17:34:55 [cygri]
mhausenblas: let's not resolve issues now, but just open them
17:34:59 [mhausenblas]
ack cygri
17:35:12 [ericP]
i think the distinguishing situation comes when there's a predicate which applies both to the record and the document describing the record
17:35:54 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-10 to OPEN
17:35:57 [cygri]
+1
17:36:01 [mhausenblas]
+1
17:36:07 [boris]
+1
17:36:08 [ericP]
+1
17:36:11 [cygri]
RESOLVED: change ISSUE-10 to OPEN
17:36:13 [betehess]
+1
17:36:17 [mhausenblas]
ISSUE-11?
17:36:17 [trackbot]
ISSUE-11 -- Primary Key is a Candidate Key -- raised
17:36:17 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/11
17:37:04 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:37:18 [betehess]
IMO "Common data modeling" should not be addressed by the Direct Mapping
17:38:31 [boris]
FK is a PK?
17:39:09 [cygri]
juansequeda: this should read: "Primary Key is Foreign Key"
17:39:40 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-11 to OPEN
17:39:42 [mhausenblas]
+1
17:39:46 [boris]
+1
17:39:48 [ivan]
+1
17:39:55 [cygri]
RESOLVED: change ISSUE-11 to OPEN
17:40:28 [mhausenblas]
ACTION: Juan to rename Issue 11 and fix it in the DM
17:40:28 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-98 - Rename Issue 11 and fix it in the DM [on Juan Sequeda - due 2011-02-08].
17:40:49 [mhausenblas]
ISSUE-12?
17:40:49 [trackbot]
ISSUE-12 -- Hierarchical Tables -- raised
17:40:49 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/12
17:41:42 [cygri]
ericP: related to previous issue. first one is: what happens if pk is fk? second is: assuming we consider pk=fk a hierarchical table, then how do we model it?
17:41:47 [cygri]
q+
17:42:04 [mhausenblas]
ack cygri
17:43:48 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-12 to POSTPONED
17:43:49 [betehess]
/me agrees to keep it somewhere, not opened
17:44:16 [cygri]
cygri: what does POSTPONED mean?
17:44:31 [cygri]
mhausenblas: we may discuss it again if someone comes with new information
17:44:47 [juansequeda]
+1
17:44:53 [betehess]
+1
17:44:55 [boris]
+1
17:44:56 [mhausenblas]
+1
17:44:59 [cygri]
RESOLVED: change ISSUE-12 to POSTPONED
17:45:00 [ericP]
cygri, would you propose that issue 11 be resolved as this?: primary keys which are also foreign keys are treated as if that foreign key doesn't exist
17:45:18 [mhausenblas]
ISSUE-13?
17:45:18 [trackbot]
ISSUE-13 -- Foreign Key and Primary Key rearrangement -- raised
17:45:18 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/13
17:45:18 [ericP]
(i have no problem with that)
17:46:14 [cygri]
ericP: this is again dependent on ISSUE-11
17:46:25 [cygri]
juansequeda: can we merge ISSUE-11, ISSUE-12, ISSUE-13
17:46:59 [cygri]
ivan: edit issues manually to add references between them
17:47:35 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-13 to POSTPONED; add refs from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13
17:47:40 [mhausenblas]
+1
17:47:46 [juansequeda]
+1
17:47:48 [betehess]
+1
17:47:49 [boris]
+1
17:47:50 [cygri]
RESOLVED: change ISSUE-13 to POSTPONED; add refs from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13
17:48:21 [cygri]
ACTION: Juan to change ISSUE-13 to postponed and add ref from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13
17:48:21 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-99 - Change ISSUE-13 to postponed and add ref from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13 [on Juan Sequeda - due 2011-02-08].
17:48:30 [mhausenblas]
ISSUE-14?
17:48:30 [trackbot]
ISSUE-14 -- Many-to-Many tables -- raised
17:48:30 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/14
17:49:10 [betehess]
+1
17:49:11 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-14 to POSTPONED
17:49:12 [cygri]
-1
17:49:14 [cygri]
q+
17:49:15 [boris]
-1
17:49:22 [mhausenblas]
ack cygri
17:49:44 [betehess]
q+
17:51:06 [Ashok]
q+
17:51:25 [mhausenblas]
ack betehess
17:51:32 [soeren]
cygri: many to many tables are important
17:52:01 [juansequeda]
q+
17:52:12 [cygri]
betehess: my objection is that the direct mapping should be kept really simple, just expose the relational model, simple expression of that in the RDF domain
17:52:22 [cygri]
q+
17:52:35 [cygri]
... if we do one case, then we have to do a lot of cases
17:52:40 [mhausenblas]
q?
17:52:52 [mhausenblas]
ack Ashok
17:53:19 [cygri]
ashok: i agree with keeping the direct mapping simple. q to richard: how do you figure out that something is many to many?
17:53:32 [betehess]
Ashok, you can identify some patterns, not all
17:53:36 [mhausenblas]
ack juansequeda
17:53:43 [cygri]
juansequeda: i agree with everybody
17:53:48 [cygri]
... let's keep it simple
17:54:12 [cygri]
... we could have a direct mapping plus optional features
17:54:30 [cygri]
... many to many is usually two-column table
17:54:53 [cygri]
... that's how tools translate uml to sql ddl
17:55:00 [cygri]
ashok: what if extra columns?
17:55:01 [ericP]
another prob with a special case for binary relations is that not all such relations are MxN (e.g ConventiallyMarriedCouple(Wife, Husband))
17:55:04 [ericP]
i think this should be an R2RML feature
17:55:11 [cygri]
juansequeda: then it's not a many to many
17:55:25 [betehess]
ericP, just like the hierarchical pattern? ;-)
17:55:25 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-14 to OPEN
17:55:26 [mhausenblas]
+1
17:55:27 [soeren]
+1
17:55:29 [betehess]
+1
17:55:31 [boris]
+1
17:55:31 [cygri]
+1
17:55:34 [Souri]
+1
17:55:39 [cygri]
RESOLVED: change ISSUE-14 to OPEN
17:55:40 [mhausenblas]
ISSUE-15?
17:55:40 [trackbot]
ISSUE-15 -- Formalism -- raised
17:55:40 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/15
17:55:58 [ericP]
betehess, yeah, i'm totally game to ignore foreign keys which are also primary keys
17:56:24 [cygri]
juansequeda: this is an issue already written in the document
17:56:42 [cygri]
q+
17:57:04 [mhausenblas]
ack cygri
17:59:10 [ivan]
q+
17:59:16 [mhausenblas]
ack ivan
17:59:19 [betehess]
mhausenblas, did you say "either"?
17:59:50 [cygri]
mhausenblas: three options: datalog, set-based notation, plain english
18:00:09 [cygri]
ivan: the three options address different communities
18:00:15 [cygri]
... having both in the document is viable
18:00:29 [cygri]
PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-15 to OPEN, and rephrase to highlight the three options (datalog, set-based notation, plain english)
18:01:19 [betehess]
I would say "consistent"
18:01:41 [cygri]
+1
18:01:44 [mhausenblas]
+1
18:01:49 [juansequeda]
+1
18:01:54 [boris]
+1
18:01:56 [ivan]
+1
18:01:56 [betehess]
+1
18:01:59 [cygri]
RESOLVED: change ISSUE-15 to OPEN, and rephrase to highlight the three options (datalog, set-based notation, plain english)
18:02:44 [Zakim]
-Ashok_Malhotra
18:02:45 [cygri]
Adjourned
18:02:55 [Zakim]
-Seema
18:02:59 [Zakim]
-souri
18:03:00 [Zakim]
-soeren
18:03:02 [cygri]
ericP, do you have a second?
18:03:02 [ivan]
zakim, drop me
18:03:02 [Zakim]
Ivan is being disconnected
18:03:04 [Zakim]
-Ivan
18:03:10 [Zakim]
-boris
18:03:14 [cygri]
re the hierarchical table thing?
18:03:21 [ericP]
cygri, sure
18:03:38 [Zakim]
-Alexandre
18:03:47 [Zakim]
-dmcneil
18:07:18 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:07:18 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:07:25 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, make logs public
18:07:26 [juansequeda]
gotta go guys, have fun geeking off
18:07:31 [Zakim]
-juansequeda
18:07:36 [mhausenblas]
cheers, and thanks a lot juansequeda
18:09:49 [mhausenblas]
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18:09:54 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:09:54 [RRSAgent]
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18:10:32 [mhausenblas]
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18:10:35 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:10:35 [RRSAgent]
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18:10:59 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:10:59 [RRSAgent]
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18:11:31 [mhausenblas]
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18:11:38 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:11:38 [RRSAgent]
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18:11:55 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:11:55 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:13:09 [mhausenblas]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:13:09 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:17:00 [mhausenblas]
trackbot, end telecon
18:17:00 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
18:17:00 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, +1.636.544.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, souri, +1.284.612.aabb, Alexandre, +1.603.891.aacc, Seema, EricP,
18:17:01 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:17:01 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html trackbot
18:17:02 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
18:17:02 [RRSAgent]
I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
18:17:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Juan to rename Issue 11 and fix it in the DM [1]
18:17:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-40-28
18:17:02 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: Juan to change ISSUE-13 to postponed and add ref from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13 [2]
18:17:02 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-48-21
18:17:04 [Zakim]
... dmcneil, soeren, +886201aadd, Ivan, nunolopes