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16:37:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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16:37:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
16:37:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 23 minutes
16:37:26 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:37:26 <trackbot> Date: 01 February 2011
16:37:34 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Jan/0080.html
16:37:39 <mhausenblas> Chair: Michael
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17:00:54 <mhausenblas> Zakim, code?
17:00:54 <Zakim> the conference code is 7322733 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), mhausenblas
17:01:01 <Souri> Souri has joined #rdb2rdf
17:01:31 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has now started
17:01:38 <Zakim> +boris
17:01:39 <Zakim> +juansequeda
17:01:52 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
17:02:00 <Zakim> + +1.636.544.aaaa
17:02:02 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra
17:02:04 <boris> who is here
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17:02:14 <boris> zakim, who is here
17:02:15 <Zakim> boris, you need to end that query with '?'
17:02:17 <Zakim> +souri
17:02:28 <boris> zakim, who is here?
17:02:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, +1.636.544.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, souri
17:02:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see soeren, Souri, juansequeda, boris, Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, cygri, mhausenblas, ivan, MacTed, LeeF, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:02:33 <Zakim> + +1.284.612.aabb
17:02:43 <Seema> Seema has joined #rdb2rdf
17:03:03 <Zakim> +Alexandre
17:03:16 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:03:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, +1.636.544.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, souri, +1.284.612.aabb, Alexandre
17:03:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see Seema, soeren, Souri, juansequeda, boris, Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, cygri, mhausenblas, ivan, MacTed, LeeF, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:03:20 <Zakim> + +1.603.891.aacc
17:03:44 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aacc is Seema 
17:03:44 <Zakim> +Seema; got it
17:03:46 <dmcneil> dmcneil has joined #RDB2RDF
17:04:08 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
17:04:08 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
17:04:10 <Zakim> +EricP
17:04:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aaaa is dmcneil 
17:04:26 <Zakim> +dmcneil; got it
17:04:41 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb is soeren 
17:04:41 <Zakim> +soeren; got it
17:04:55 <mhausenblas> Zakim, pick a victim
17:04:55 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose boris
17:05:11 <boris> so
17:05:36 <mhausenblas> scribenick: cygri 
17:05:41 <Zakim> -soeren
17:05:45 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Jan/0080.html
17:05:57 <cygri> Topic: 1. Admin
17:06:04 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see
17:06:04 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
17:06:16 <Zakim> + +886201aadd
17:06:26 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aadd is soeren 
17:06:26 <Zakim> +soeren; got it
17:06:32 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
17:06:32 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
17:06:34 <Zakim> +Ivan
17:06:49 <soeren> +1
17:06:49 <boris> I+1
17:06:50 <juansequeda> +1
17:06:50 <betehess> +1
17:06:52 <cygri> RESOLUTION: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see http://www.w3.org/2011/01/25-rdb2rdf-minutes.html
17:07:02 <cygri> Topic: 2. Direct Mapping status
17:07:15 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Marcelo
17:07:22 <cygri> ACTION-85?
17:07:23 <trackbot> ACTION-85 -- Ted Thibodeau to review Direct Mapping ED -- due 2011-02-01 -- OPEN
17:07:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/85
17:07:28 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Percy
17:07:55 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:07:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, dmcneil, Ashok_Malhotra, souri, Alexandre, Seema, EricP, soeren, Ivan
17:07:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see dmcneil, Seema, soeren, Souri, juansequeda, boris, Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, cygri, mhausenblas, ivan, MacTed, LeeF, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:08:02 <mhausenblas> MacTed?
17:08:24 <mhausenblas> drop ACTION-85
17:08:30 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-85
17:08:30 <trackbot> ACTION-85 Review Direct Mapping ED closed
17:08:34 <juansequeda> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/
17:09:05 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/raised
17:09:33 <cygri> mhausenblas: let's go through raised issues for the direct mapping
17:09:49 <cygri> ... for each issue, let's get them from "raised" to "open", "postponed", "closed" etc
17:09:52 <juansequeda> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/9
17:09:57 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-9?
17:09:58 <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- Generate Blank Nodes for duplicate tuples -- raised
17:09:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/9
17:10:46 <cygri> juansequeda: Marcelo and I currently use a predicate that states the cardinality
17:11:03 <cygri> ... in section 4.1, 4.2
17:11:05 <betehess> q+
17:11:11 <cygri> ... we ask people to review this
17:11:14 <mhausenblas> ack betehess 
17:11:49 <cygri> betehess: let's be careful not to call this solved, it interacts with other issues i have in the queue
17:11:58 <mhausenblas> Michael: looks like we should change the issue 9 from raised to open
17:13:43 <cygri> betehess: i don't understand how to play with the datalog rules in order to execute them
17:14:06 <cygri> mhausenblas: let's not do very generic issues
17:14:50 <betehess> uri?
17:14:55 <juansequeda> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/directMapping/
17:14:56 <cygri> juansequeda: we added examples for 4.1 and 4.2
17:15:16 <cygri> ... that should help clarify. if there are still problems with this, please raise
17:15:32 <cygri> ericP: test cases please
17:15:32 <mhausenblas> Michael: I encourage everyone to raise issues no matter if there exists something on not, as long as it is concrete enough, please go ahead
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17:15:51 <cygri> betehess: i don't recognize RDB or RDF in the rules
17:16:00 <nunolopes> Zakim, nunolopes is with mhausenblas
17:16:00 <Zakim> +nunolopes; got it
17:16:08 <ivan> q+
17:16:10 <cygri> juansequeda: RDB model is just some predicates
17:16:43 <cygri> betehess: i don't think it's well-defined. two solutions in the document that work with sort of different data models
17:16:55 <cygri> ... rdb model is more than just predicates
17:17:11 <cygri> ... in datalog you need to state facts. i don't see this in the current version
17:17:16 <cygri> ... it's not exactly datalog
17:17:35 <cygri> ... don't see how to go from rdb to rdf using this
17:17:58 <mhausenblas> ack ivan
17:17:59 <mhausenblas> q?
17:18:27 <cygri> ivan: the document says that we present rules in datalog *syntax*, so it may not use the formal mathematical model
17:18:42 <cygri> ... it's just a set of rules. that's fine
17:19:05 <cygri> ... we should show that both formalism lead to same triples from same db
17:19:13 <juansequeda> +1 to a lot of testcases
17:19:22 <cygri> ... how to do that? a boatload of testcases
17:20:06 <cygri> mhausenblas: yes we need test cases to proceed. how to get them?
17:20:13 <boris> q?
17:20:19 <cygri> ivan: we started with specific issues. put them in the issue list.
17:20:53 <cygri> ... juan, are there ways for getting those rules rolling in a specific system? the other formalism has an implementation
17:21:03 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/All_Cases_for_Default_Mapping
17:21:06 <cygri> ... if we had a processor, we could run them side by side
17:21:27 <cygri> mhausenblas: could this writeup be used as input for test cases? http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/All_Cases_for_Default_Mapping
17:21:37 <boris> q+
17:21:43 <cygri> juansequeda: just a list of cases that had to be managed
17:22:30 <cygri> ... rules don't need to be implemented. it's an if-then case
17:22:41 <cygri> ivan: we have to prove they do the same thing. how else would we do that?
17:23:04 <mhausenblas> ack boris 
17:23:06 <Souri> q+
17:23:19 <cygri> juansequeda: this just specifies some cases. if this, then that. doesn't have to be implemented using a rules engine. we don't expect people to do that
17:23:30 <mhausenblas> q?
17:23:48 <cygri> boris: we started with very simple test cases, want to get on to more complex ones
17:23:59 <cygri> mhausenblas: probably we want to prioritize direct mapping test cases
17:24:00 <ericP>  TaskAssignments
17:24:00 <ericP> 7     "pencil survey"  "accounting"  "Cambridge"
17:24:00 <ericP> NULL  "pencil survey"  "accounting"  "Cambridge"
17:24:01 <mhausenblas> ack Souri 
17:24:28 <cygri> Souri: as a practitioner, my experience is that blank nodes cause lots of problems
17:24:36 <cygri> ... let's minimize generation of blank nodes
17:24:52 <soeren> +1
17:25:11 <cygri> ... we need to generate a unique label anyways. then we could just make a URI from it. makes life easier for implementers
17:25:17 <ericP> note that the above table preserves UNIQUE(worker, project), but not PRIMARY KEY(worker, project)
17:25:57 <ericP> q+ to say that unresolvable identifiers create issues
17:26:20 <cygri> ... bnodes are local symbols in a graph, so if you make two triples in different graphs from same row, they don't merge
17:26:27 <mhausenblas> ack ericP 
17:26:27 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to say that unresolvable identifiers create issues
17:26:51 <cygri> ericP: we can't calculate the same blank node twice
17:27:04 <Ashok> He just wants to distinguish between blank nodes
17:27:10 <cygri> ... blank nodes are unpleasant in rdf
17:27:20 <cygri> ... lack of commitment towards identifiers
17:27:41 <ivan> +1 to eric
17:28:04 <cygri> ... bnodes should be used for identifiers that you're not going to remember for future responses
17:28:11 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/raised
17:28:32 <cygri> mhausenblas: how should we proceed with the issues?
17:28:42 <cygri> juansequeda: let's go through them one by one, open them
17:28:54 <cygri> mhausenblas: PROPSOAL: change ISSUE-9 to OPEN
17:29:14 <Souri> I'd like the issue of use or non-use of bNodes to be raised as an issue so that we can discuss it later
17:29:16 <cygri> soeren: rename it to "avoid blank nodes"?
17:29:18 <ericP> +1
17:29:23 <soeren> +1
17:29:25 <ivan> +1
17:29:42 <boris> +1
17:29:56 <mhausenblas> s/PROPSOAL/PROPOSAL
17:30:10 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-9 to OPEN
17:30:35 <cygri> RESOLVED: change ISSUE-9 to OPEN
17:30:40 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-10?
17:30:41 <trackbot> ISSUE-10 -- Hash vs Slash -- raised
17:30:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/10
17:30:43 <ericP> open
17:31:27 <cygri> ericP: there's this linked data fury going on
17:31:43 <cygri> ... long and contentious issue about uris
17:32:00 <cygri> ... have an rdf file that has a node in it that identifies what you're talking about
17:32:18 <cygri> ... and label that node with a relative hash URI
17:33:16 <cygri> ... or alternative: don't use a hash, but just a slash URI, and a GET does http redirect to the file URI
17:33:36 <ivan> q+
17:33:36 <cygri> ... one is clearer, one is simpler
17:33:47 <mhausenblas> ack ivan 
17:34:20 <cygri> ivan: i see direct graph as intermediate graph, where i use rules or something else to transform it into something i really like
17:34:21 <cygri> q+
17:34:38 <cygri> ... that's my impression. might be rat hole
17:34:55 <cygri> mhausenblas: let's not resolve issues now, but just open them
17:34:59 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:35:12 <ericP> i think the distinguishing situation comes when there's a predicate which applies both to the record and the document describing the record
17:35:54 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-10 to OPEN
17:35:57 <cygri> +1
17:36:01 <mhausenblas> +1
17:36:07 <boris> +1
17:36:08 <ericP> +1
17:36:11 <cygri> RESOLVED: change ISSUE-10 to OPEN
17:36:13 <betehess> +1
17:36:17 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-11?
17:36:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-11 -- Primary Key is a Candidate Key -- raised
17:36:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/11
17:37:04 <mhausenblas> q?
17:37:18 <betehess> IMO "Common data modeling" should not be addressed by the Direct Mapping
17:38:31 <boris> FK is a PK?
17:39:09 <cygri> juansequeda: this should read: "Primary Key is Foreign Key"
17:39:40 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-11 to OPEN
17:39:42 <mhausenblas> +1
17:39:46 <boris> +1
17:39:48 <ivan> +1
17:39:55 <cygri> RESOLVED: change ISSUE-11 to OPEN
17:40:28 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Juan to rename Issue 11 and fix it in the DM
17:40:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Rename Issue 11 and fix it in the DM [on Juan Sequeda - due 2011-02-08].
17:40:49 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-12?
17:40:49 <trackbot> ISSUE-12 -- Hierarchical Tables -- raised
17:40:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/12
17:41:42 <cygri> ericP: related to previous issue. first one is: what happens if pk is fk? second is: assuming we consider pk=fk a hierarchical table, then how do we model it?
17:41:47 <cygri> q+
17:42:04 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:43:48 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-12 to POSTPONED
17:43:49 <betehess>  /me agrees to keep it somewhere, not opened
17:44:16 <cygri> cygri: what does POSTPONED mean?
17:44:31 <cygri> mhausenblas: we may discuss it again if someone comes with new information
17:44:47 <juansequeda> +1
17:44:53 <betehess> +1
17:44:55 <boris> +1
17:44:56 <mhausenblas> +1
17:44:59 <cygri> RESOLVED: change ISSUE-12 to POSTPONED
17:45:00 <ericP> cygri, would you propose that issue 11 be resolved as this?: primary keys which are also foreign keys are treated as if that foreign key doesn't exist
17:45:18 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-13?
17:45:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-13 -- Foreign Key and Primary Key rearrangement -- raised
17:45:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/13
17:45:18 <ericP> (i have no problem with that)
17:46:14 <cygri> ericP: this is again dependent on ISSUE-11
17:46:25 <cygri> juansequeda: can we merge ISSUE-11, ISSUE-12, ISSUE-13
17:46:59 <cygri> ivan: edit issues manually to add references between them
17:47:35 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-13 to POSTPONED; add refs from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13
17:47:40 <mhausenblas> +1
17:47:46 <juansequeda> +1
17:47:48 <betehess> +1
17:47:49 <boris> +1
17:47:50 <cygri> RESOLVED: change ISSUE-13 to POSTPONED; add refs from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13
17:48:21 <cygri> ACTION: Juan to change ISSUE-13 to postponed and add ref from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13
17:48:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-99 - Change ISSUE-13 to postponed and add ref from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13 [on Juan Sequeda - due 2011-02-08].
17:48:30 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-14?
17:48:30 <trackbot> ISSUE-14 -- Many-to-Many tables -- raised
17:48:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/14
17:49:10 <betehess> +1
17:49:11 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-14 to POSTPONED
17:49:12 <cygri> -1
17:49:14 <cygri> q+
17:49:15 <boris> -1
17:49:22 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:49:44 <betehess> q+
17:51:06 <Ashok> q+
17:51:25 <mhausenblas> ack betehess 
17:51:32 <soeren> cygri: many to many tables are important
17:52:01 <juansequeda> q+
17:52:12 <cygri> betehess: my objection is that the direct mapping should be kept really simple, just expose the relational model, simple expression of that in the RDF domain
17:52:22 <cygri> q+
17:52:35 <cygri> ... if we do one case, then we have to do a lot of cases
17:52:40 <mhausenblas> q?
17:52:52 <mhausenblas> ack Ashok 
17:53:19 <cygri> ashok: i agree with keeping the direct mapping simple. q to richard: how do you figure out that something is many to many?
17:53:32 <betehess> Ashok, you can identify some patterns, not all
17:53:36 <mhausenblas> ack juansequeda 
17:53:43 <cygri> juansequeda: i agree with everybody
17:53:48 <cygri> ... let's keep it simple
17:54:12 <cygri> ... we could have a direct mapping plus optional features
17:54:30 <cygri> ... many to many is usually two-column table
17:54:53 <cygri> ... that's how tools translate uml to sql ddl
17:55:00 <cygri> ashok: what if extra columns?
17:55:01 <ericP> another prob with a special case for binary relations is that not all such relations are MxN (e.g ConventiallyMarriedCouple(Wife, Husband))
17:55:04 <ericP> i think this should be an R2RML feature
17:55:11 <cygri> juansequeda: then it's not a many to many
17:55:25 <betehess> ericP, just like the hierarchical pattern? ;-)
17:55:25 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-14 to OPEN
17:55:26 <mhausenblas> +1
17:55:27 <soeren> +1
17:55:29 <betehess> +1
17:55:31 <boris> +1
17:55:31 <cygri> +1
17:55:34 <Souri> +1
17:55:39 <cygri> RESOLVED: change ISSUE-14 to OPEN
17:55:40 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-15?
17:55:40 <trackbot> ISSUE-15 -- Formalism -- raised
17:55:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/15
17:55:58 <ericP> betehess, yeah, i'm totally game to ignore foreign keys which are also primary keys
17:56:24 <cygri> juansequeda: this is an issue already written in the document
17:56:42 <cygri> q+
17:57:04 <mhausenblas> ack cygri 
17:59:10 <ivan> q+
17:59:16 <mhausenblas> ack ivan
17:59:19 <betehess> mhausenblas, did you say "either"?
17:59:50 <cygri> mhausenblas: three options: datalog, set-based notation, plain english
18:00:09 <cygri> ivan: the three options address different communities
18:00:15 <cygri> ... having both in the document is viable
18:00:29 <cygri> PROPOSAL: change ISSUE-15 to OPEN, and rephrase to highlight the three options (datalog, set-based notation, plain english)
18:01:19 <betehess> I would say "consistent"
18:01:41 <cygri> +1
18:01:44 <mhausenblas> +1
18:01:49 <juansequeda> +1
18:01:54 <boris> +1
18:01:56 <ivan> +1
18:01:56 <betehess> +1
18:01:59 <cygri> RESOLVED: change ISSUE-15 to OPEN, and rephrase to highlight the three options (datalog, set-based notation, plain english)
18:02:44 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
18:02:45 <cygri> Adjourned
18:02:55 <Zakim> -Seema
18:02:59 <Zakim> -souri
18:03:00 <Zakim> -soeren
18:03:02 <cygri> ericP, do you have a second?
18:03:02 <ivan> zakim, drop me
18:03:02 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
18:03:04 <Zakim> -Ivan
18:03:10 <Zakim> -boris
18:03:14 <cygri> re the hierarchical table thing?
18:03:21 <ericP> cygri, sure
18:03:38 <Zakim> -Alexandre
18:03:47 <Zakim> -dmcneil
18:07:18 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:07:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:07:25 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public 
18:07:26 <juansequeda> gotta go guys, have fun geeking off
18:07:31 <Zakim> -juansequeda
18:07:36 <mhausenblas> cheers, and thanks a lot juansequeda 
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18:11:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:11:55 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:11:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:13:09 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:13:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
18:17:00 <mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon
18:17:00 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
18:17:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been boris, juansequeda, mhausenblas, +1.636.544.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, souri, +1.284.612.aabb, Alexandre, +1.603.891.aacc, Seema, EricP,
18:17:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:17:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-minutes.html trackbot
18:17:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
18:17:02 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
18:17:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Juan to rename Issue 11 and fix it in the DM [1]
18:17:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-40-28
18:17:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Juan to change ISSUE-13 to postponed and add ref from ISSUE-11 to ISSUE-13 [2]
18:17:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/01-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-48-21
18:17:04 <Zakim> ... dmcneil, soeren, +886201aadd, Ivan, nunolopes