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14:47:11 <TomB> rrsagent, bookmark
14:47:11 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T14-47-11
14:47:18 <TomB> zakim, this will be lld
14:47:18 <Zakim> ok, TomB; I see INC_LLDXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
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14:47:37 <TomB> Meeting: LLD XG
14:47:41 <TomB> Chair: Tom
14:48:00 <TomB> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jan/0055.html
14:48:20 <TomB> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/01/06-lld-minutes.html
14:48:38 <TomB> rrsagent, please make record public
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14:55:12 <Zakim> INC_LLDXG()10:00AM has now started
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14:55:19 <Zakim> +??P2
14:55:27 <TomB> zakikm, ??P2 is TomB
14:55:37 <TomB> zakim, ??P2 is TomB
14:55:37 <Zakim> +TomB; got it
14:55:54 <Zakim> +??P0
14:56:11 <TomB> zakim, ??P0 is Antoine
14:56:11 <Zakim> +Antoine; got it
14:56:15 <Zakim> +monica
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14:56:39 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:56:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-minutes.html antoine
14:57:07 <Zakim> +jeff_
14:57:08 <Zakim> +??P8
14:57:30 <TomB> zakim, ??P8 is Kcoyle
14:57:30 <Zakim> +Kcoyle; got it
14:57:33 <Zakim> +pmurray
14:57:39 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
14:57:39 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
14:57:44 <pmurray> zakim, mute me
14:57:44 <Zakim> pmurray should now be muted
14:58:01 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
14:58:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see TomB, Antoine, monica, jeff_ (muted), Kcoyle, pmurray (muted)
14:58:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see pmurray, Monica, kcoyle, antoine, RRSAgent, Zakim, TomB, jeff_, edsu, danbri, digikim
14:58:35 <uldis> uldis has joined #lld
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14:59:22 <Zakim> +??P17
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14:59:46 <TomB> zakim, ??P17 is Kai
14:59:47 <uldis> Zakim, ??P17 is me
14:59:51 <Zakim> +Kai; got it
14:59:51 <antoine> zakim, ??P17 is uldis
14:59:53 <Zakim> I already had ??P17 as Kai, uldis
14:59:59 <Zakim> I already had ??P17 as Kai, antoine
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15:00:02 <antoine> zakim, ??P17 is really uldis
15:00:05 <Zakim> + +1.330.672.aaaa
15:00:07 <kai> i am not yet dialed in
15:00:09 <Zakim> +uldis; got it
15:00:11 <Zakim> +jeff_.a
15:00:14 <antoine> zakim, aaaa is marcia
15:00:15 <Zakim> +marcia; got it
15:00:26 <michaelp> zakim, jeff_.a is really me
15:00:26 <Zakim> +michaelp; got it
15:00:32 <TomB> zakim, who is on the call?
15:00:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see TomB, Antoine, monica, jeff_ (muted), Kcoyle, pmurray (muted), uldis, marcia, michaelp
15:00:41 <Zakim> +rsinger
15:00:43 <michaelp> zakim, please mute me
15:00:43 <Zakim> michaelp should now be muted
15:00:53 <Zakim> +??P28
15:01:05 <antoine> zakim, ??P28 is kai
15:01:05 <Zakim> +kai; got it
15:01:15 <Zakim> +emma
15:01:41 <TomB> Regrets: annette, lars
15:02:16 <antoine> s/annette/anette
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15:02:41 <kefo> zakim, LC is me
15:02:41 <Zakim> +[LC]
15:02:42 <Zakim> +kefo; got it
15:02:51 <Zakim> +[LC]
15:02:54 <edsu> zakim, [lc] is edsu
15:02:55 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
15:03:17 <GordonD> GordonD has joined #lld
15:03:25 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
15:03:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see TomB, Antoine, monica, jeff_ (muted), Kcoyle, pmurray (muted), uldis, marcia, michaelp (muted), rsinger, kai, emma, kefo, edsu
15:03:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see GordonD, kefo, emma, kai, rsinger, michaelp, marcia, uldis, pmurray, Monica, kcoyle, antoine, RRSAgent, Zakim, TomB, jeff_, edsu, danbri, digikim
15:03:55 <kefo> zakim, mute me please
15:03:55 <Zakim> kefo should now be muted
15:04:06 <Zakim> +??P4
15:04:21 <Zakim> + +49.173.609.aabb
15:04:49 <antoine> zakim, ??P4 is GordonD
15:04:49 <Zakim> +GordonD; got it
15:05:05 <antoine> zakim, aabb is jneubert
15:05:05 <Zakim> +jneubert; got it
15:05:09 <Monica> zakim, who is noisy?
15:05:19 <Zakim> Monica, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Antoine (11%), uldis (5%)
15:05:34 <TomB> Scribe: uldis
15:05:42 <TomB> Scribenick: uldis
15:06:35 <Zakim> +??P37
15:06:42 <digikim> Zakim, ??P37 is digikim
15:06:42 <Zakim> +digikim; got it
15:07:36 <uldis> TOPIC: admin
15:08:18 <uldis> prope to accept minutes of last week's telco
15:08:22 <uldis> resolved
15:08:47 <emma> RESOLVED: To accept http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/01/06-lld-minutes.html
15:09:14 <uldis> Tom: start with report from Karen 
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15:09:19 <TomB> Topic: Report from ALA Mid-Winter
15:09:20 <antoine> Topic: Report from ALA Mid-Winter and LITA/ALCTS actions
15:09:30 <antoine> s/Report from ALA Mid-Winter and LITA/ALCTS actions//
15:09:31 <uldis> 2nd time help a meeting at NALA
15:09:41 <uldis> included people from LOC
15:09:46 <Zakim> +Jodi
15:09:56 <emma> s/help/held
15:10:10 <uldis> enough signatures to turn it into an official ALA interest group. will be in the program, meet twice a year
15:10:48 <uldis> kcoyle: did gap analysis. will establish a discussion area, post it online
15:10:53 <michaelp> Zakim, unmute me
15:10:53 <Zakim> michaelp should no longer be muted
15:11:09 <digikim> lol, data speeddating :)
15:11:13 <uldis> ... came w the idea for "data speed-dating" events
15:11:34 <emma> +1 for data speed-dating ;-)
15:11:37 <digikim> +1
15:11:40 <uldis> ... there's interest in developing LLD
15:12:03 <Monica> s/w/up with/
15:12:14 <uldis> ... people surprised we received no use cases re traditional library data (re MARC, RDA, ...)
15:12:43 <uldis> ... a lack of the way for to move what we have today into linked data
15:13:13 <uldis> ... wrote 2 reports: on SemWeb (award for best report) and on RDA
15:13:22 <uldis> congrats! :)
15:14:09 <GordonD> I can add a use-case for migrating from legacy records (MARC, etc.) to the BibData cluster
15:14:09 <uldis> ... will we do something re traditional library data?
15:14:23 <antoine> q+ RDA is mentioned in vocs
15:14:25 <uldis> ... will send a link for a report from the meeting.
15:14:41 <antoine> q+
15:15:12 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabularies
15:15:17 <uldis> antoine: asking about lack of traditional library data use cases. RDA is mentioned in ~3 use cases.
15:15:47 <uldis> kcoyle: will look into it.
15:15:49 <GordonD> I think we need something specific about legacy data and migrating to lld
15:16:14 <uldis> kcoyle: i think what people expected was a use case about that
15:16:47 <rsinger> formally?
15:16:48 <uldis> TomB: can we add an action re this?
15:16:57 <GordonD> I've already volunteered
15:17:41 <rsinger> yeah, i'll definitely volunteer
15:17:43 <jodi> Gordan++
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15:17:50 <GordonD> Yes, please action this to me
15:18:21 <antoine> s/some experience/impressive experience/
15:18:50 <uldis> ACTION: Gordon and Ross to review use cases in light of migration of legacy data
15:19:17 <kcoyle> q+
15:19:20 <GordonD> Tom - you missed out the Collections cluster
15:19:38 <emma> ack ant
15:19:45 <TomB> Topic: Use Cases
15:19:53 <uldis> ACTION: TomB to link cluster pages to http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/FinalReportOutline -- done
15:20:11 <marcia> we have a UC http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_Linked_Data_and_legacy_library_applications 
15:20:36 <marcia> a UC by uldis
15:20:43 <emma> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:20:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-minutes.html emma
15:20:52 <uldis> TomB: vocabulary alignment
15:21:06 <uldis> ... onging action by Antoina and Michael
15:21:15 <uldis> ... main topic for this week
15:21:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-minutes.html TomB
15:21:28 <emma> s/Antoina/Antoine
15:22:00 <TomB> ACTION: Antoine and Michael to curate vocabulary alignment cluster for end of December [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action07]
15:22:02 <TomB> --done
15:22:18 <uldis> antoine: vocabulary alignment cluster joined by Martia who contributed 
15:22:41 <uldis> ... cluster motivation: many institutions have specific vocabs to describe their collections
15:22:50 <uldis> ... different metadata schemas
15:23:00 <Monica> s/Martia/Marcia
15:23:05 <uldis> ... various thesauri, classification systems
15:23:53 <uldis> ... causes problems for managing that data. objective: to solve the problem of access to collections by end-users.
15:24:12 <uldis> ... use cases where users want to access multiple collections, via unified access points.
15:24:34 <uldis> ... examples: Europeana, other integrated search services
15:24:54 <uldis> ... need to relate these vocabularies
15:25:20 <uldis> ... applies both to search and exploring collections
15:26:11 <uldis> ... also has metadata management scenarios. for creating new vocabularies or matching existing vocabs.
15:26:31 <uldis> ... one specific cases concerned with that
15:26:59 <TomB> q+ to ask whether "alignment" should include also element sets and datasets
15:27:07 <uldis> ... match between these motivations and the linked data
15:27:24 <TomB> ack kcoyle
15:27:47 <TomB> ack TomB
15:27:47 <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to ask whether "alignment" should include also element sets and datasets
15:28:20 <uldis> TomB: cluster is defined about vocabulary alignment, but noted in text it is also true for metadata elem set alignment
15:28:42 <uldis> ... is alighnment of data sets also covered here (or somewhere else?)
15:29:05 <uldis> what was antoine's reply?
15:29:08 <emma> s/alighnment/alignment
15:29:40 <marcia> Tom: do you mean to change to 'alignment' regardless of if it is on the vocabulary level or value level?
15:29:50 <uldis> antoine: both alignment of vocabs and element sets.
15:30:10 <uldis> ... don't have use cases that talk about data sets
15:30:28 <rsinger> Sorry, everybody, need to bow out for another meeting.
15:30:37 <uldis> ... received a number of case studies in this cluster
15:30:42 <emma> q+ to talk about similarities with Archives
15:30:44 <GordonD> The BibData has a de-duplication use-case, but it is at record level, not lld
15:30:45 <uldis> ... identified other cases relevant to the cluster
15:30:52 <Zakim> -rsinger
15:30:58 <antoine> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Cluster_VocAlign_RelevantCases
15:31:27 <uldis> ... collected in this link all the cases from cluster which are relevant. some could be about data sets.
15:31:27 <emma> ack me
15:31:28 <Zakim> emma, you wanted to talk about similarities with Archives
15:31:47 <TomB> q+ to suggest analytical approach to "relevant technologies"
15:32:03 <uldis> emma: in archives cluster one of main topics of interest: archives want to relate their objects with one another
15:32:11 <michaelp> q+ to mention problems with defining data set alignment
15:32:26 <uldis> ... aligning value vocabularies. similar to this cluster.
15:32:27 <michaelp> zakim, unmute me
15:32:27 <Zakim> michaelp was not muted, michaelp
15:32:35 <TomB> ack TomB
15:32:35 <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to suggest analytical approach to "relevant technologies"
15:32:37 <emma> zakim, mute me
15:32:38 <Zakim> emma should now be muted
15:33:12 <uldis> michaelp: looking at relevant technologies for merging vocabularies. need analytic view to various approaches.
15:33:22 <uldis> ... have links to various services, frameworks.
15:34:02 <uldis> ... ... by technical approaches - how they are making and publishing mappings
15:34:03 <TomB> ack michaelp
15:34:03 <Zakim> michaelp, you wanted to mention problems with defining data set alignment
15:34:35 <uldis> michaelp: should be careful with what we define as aligning data sets and vocabularies
15:34:51 <uldis> ... there's big overlap. very real issue.
15:35:16 <uldis> ... but in vocab alignment you establish more semantic relationships. there similarity with data sets ends.
15:35:59 <uldis> TomB: also an issue with provenance information (in the notes)
15:36:21 <uldis> ... Marcia, Antoine: what further input is needed on this call or on the list
15:36:35 <uldis> ... how close are to having the action done and having a draft?
15:36:44 <marcia> We have  two cases seemed to belong to other clusters
15:36:54 <uldis> antoine: would like to have input re selection of cases
15:37:16 <uldis> ... problem: have 2 cases where did not see a link with vocab alignment
15:37:29 <uldis> ... subject search
15:37:42 <uldis> ... component vocabularies
15:37:54 <uldis> ... if could have input from people who created them
15:38:16 <uldis> ... worked on stabilizing scenarios
15:38:42 <uldis> ... concept-based search; mediation between vocabs; vocab emerging
15:39:28 <uldis> ... also relation to an interesting use case for natural language processing
15:40:17 <uldis> missed the description of things mentioned
15:40:32 <uldis> ... trying to organize these problems
15:40:48 <marcia> maybe we can also summarize the types of alignment 'parties'.
15:41:30 <uldis> TomB: please posts a message to curators of use cases (re cases where don't see a link)
15:41:40 <uldis> s/posts/post
15:41:51 <marcia> +Antoine. Great report.
15:42:17 <antoine> s/trying to organize these problems/trying to organize and validate the problems section
15:42:20 <uldis> CLUSER Archives and heterogeneous data
15:42:29 <Zakim> -jneubert
15:42:49 <kcoyle> done
15:42:59 <uldis> ACTION: Kcoyle to see if Archives cluster reveals problems or limitations -- things missing from the available technology that would make LLD implementable
15:43:04 <Monica> s/CLUSER/CLUSTER
15:43:07 <uldis> -- done
15:43:08 <Zakim> +jneubert
15:43:18 <uldis> kcoyle: action completed, sent to the list
15:43:35 <jodi> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Cluster_VocAlign&oldid=2627#Problems_and_limitations
15:43:41 <TomB> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jan/0034.html
15:43:50 <uldis> ... other cluster has those. suggest that all clusters see what gaps, problems are there and send to Karen
15:43:59 <uldis> ... Karen can put them together
15:44:18 <marcia> Karen: Antoine organized those gaps according to your category/outline.  http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Cluster_VocAlign 
15:44:28 <uldis> TomB: so that we have something comparable between clusters.
15:45:03 <uldis> yes
15:45:39 <uldis> but it sounded ok at beginning of call
15:46:01 <uldis> TomB: should assume actions carried forward?
15:46:11 <GordonD> +1
15:46:14 <emma> ok
15:46:21 <uldis> ... yes
15:46:31 <uldis> CLUSTER Bibliographic data
15:46:59 <jeff_> zakim, unmute me
15:46:59 <Zakim> jeff_ should no longer be muted
15:47:00 <uldis> ... put on the agenda for next week
15:47:13 <Zakim> -jneubert
15:47:16 <uldis> ACTION: Gordon and Martin to curate bibliographic data cluster for end of December [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action05]
15:47:23 <uldis> CLUSTER Authority data: curators Jeff, Alex
15:47:39 <uldis> ... re document in google docs. a time estimate?
15:47:42 <Zakim> +jneubert
15:47:44 <uldis> who was speaking?
15:47:59 <uldis> jeff_: at least couple of weeks off
15:48:23 <uldis> CLUSTER Citations: curators Ed, Kai, Peter
15:48:32 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
15:48:32 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
15:48:33 <pmurray> No update 
15:48:38 <pmurray> I think we are done at the moment.
15:48:42 <uldis> TomB: what is status on this cluster?
15:49:05 <pmurray> Unless there are outstanding questions, we're done.
15:49:25 <uldis> ... work is done
15:49:29 <emma> add a problems & limitation section ?
15:49:34 <uldis> CLUSTER Digital objects: curators Mark, Jodi, Asaf
15:49:47 <uldis> TomB: estimate was next week. status update?
15:50:02 <uldis> ... candidate for discussion the week after next
15:50:08 <uldis> jodi: that's fine
15:50:21 <Zakim> -TomB
15:50:32 <uldis> no
15:50:38 <antoine> Tom we lost you!
15:50:41 <emma> zakim, unmute me
15:50:41 <Zakim> emma should no longer be muted
15:50:44 <uldis> your connection dropped
15:51:04 <antoine> Can you reconnect?
15:51:05 <antoine> OK
15:51:35 <Zakim> +Dan_Burnett
15:51:41 <uldis> antoine: was action to incorporate a use case re map archive
15:51:50 <uldis> ACTION: Curators of Archives and Digital Objects clusters to incorporate Use Case NLL Digitized Map Archive http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_NLL_Digitized_Map_Archive [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/01/06-lld-minutes.html#action12]
15:52:02 <uldis> --done
15:52:13 <kcoyle> yes
15:52:19 <kcoyle> but you are him
15:52:20 <uldis> TomB is back
15:52:23 <emma> zakim, Dan_Burnett is really TomB
15:52:23 <Zakim> +TomB; got it
15:52:37 <uldis> jodi: action done, incorporated into the digital obj cluster
15:52:45 <uldis> NEW CLUSTER Social uses (Uldis, Jodi)
15:52:59 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
15:52:59 <Zakim> jeff_ was already muted, jeff_
15:53:00 <uldis> jodi: put together a call for use cases
15:53:14 <antoine> Uldis: we have written a draft
15:53:29 <antoine> ... we'll send it to the group to see if there are suggestions from the group
15:53:34 <GordonD> Collections cluster should be finished by the end of January
15:53:53 <uldis> NEW CLUSTER Collections (Gordon)
15:54:03 <antoine> q+ an extra volunteer on this cluster?
15:54:04 <uldis> TomB: pointed to outlines. is there a wiki page?
15:54:20 <jodi> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Cluster_Collections
15:54:20 <antoine> q+ to ask about volunteers on this cluster?
15:54:21 <uldis> GordonD: there is start of wiki page
15:54:27 <TomB> ack antoine
15:54:27 <Zakim> antoine, you wanted to ask about volunteers on this cluster?
15:54:29 <uldis> ... can link to it.
15:54:54 <kcoyle> i will
15:54:59 <uldis> ... looking for volunteed for the cluster
15:55:03 <TomB> karen++ !
15:55:09 <uldis> kcoyle: will join the cluster
15:55:20 <uldis> ACTION: GordonD to curate collection cluster [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/01/06-lld-minutes.html#action11]
15:55:31 <uldis> INDIVIDUAL USE CASES
15:55:44 <uldis> TomB: an action for each use case curator
15:55:51 <antoine> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/index.php?title=Vocabularies&action=history
15:55:53 <uldis> ACTION: For each use case curator: on the Vocabularies page (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabularies) link to each URL use case that uses it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action01]
15:56:08 <uldis> ... does it need to be continued?
15:56:08 <emma> I just added the Collections Cluster page to the final report outline
15:56:37 <uldis> ... do we need to link each use case that uses particular vocab to the vocab page?
15:56:50 <uldis> ... or can the action be dropped.
15:56:54 <kcoyle> i'm not clear what the purpose is... i also think it could be considered done
15:56:59 <uldis> antoine: action is done
15:57:17 <GordonD> Generally, any new use cases added need to remember to update terminologies/vocabularies/links, etc.
15:57:33 <marcia> + Gordon
15:57:47 <kcoyle> no list will be complete -- this is good enough
15:57:59 <uldis> kcoyle :)
15:58:14 <uldis> TomB: decided to drop the action
15:58:25 <uldis> ACTION: For each use case curator: on the Vocabularies page (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabularies) link to each URL use case that uses it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action01]
15:58:29 <uldis> --done
15:58:49 <jeff_> q+
15:58:50 <uldis> TomB: end of today's agenda. any other comments?
15:58:53 <jeff_> ack me
15:58:56 <TomB> ack jeff
15:58:59 <uldis> ... topic next week = bibliographic data
15:59:06 <jeff_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2011Jan/0037.html
15:59:09 <uldis> jeff_: has an action that's done
15:59:31 <antoine> q+ to include them in the cluster?
15:59:35 <uldis> ACTION: Jeff to write one or two paragraphs on VIAF design discussions as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2010Oct/0107.html[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html#action06]
15:59:39 <uldis> --fonr
15:59:42 <uldis> --done
16:00:29 <uldis> TomB: thought that design discussion also talked re relation b/w authority data and real-world objects
16:01:09 <uldis> ... this issue needs to be covered (but can be covered in the authority data cluster)
16:01:35 <uldis> ... this was telco #24
16:01:41 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
16:01:41 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
16:01:49 <uldis> ... we have 15-20 telcos left
16:02:08 <uldis> ... no concrete plans for F2F. we're in good shape, cluster's looking good.
16:02:13 <Zakim> -edsu
16:02:13 <Zakim> -kefo
16:02:14 <uldis> ... finished for the week
16:02:15 <Zakim> -jeff_
16:02:16 <Zakim> -marcia
16:02:17 <kcoyle> uldis - great job!
16:02:18 <michaelp> Thanks!
16:02:20 <Zakim> -GordonD
16:02:21 <Zakim> -digikim
16:02:21 <Zakim> -kai
16:02:22 <Zakim> -jneubert
16:02:23 <michaelp> michaelp has left #lld
16:02:24 <Zakim> -pmurray
16:02:25 <Zakim> -michaelp
16:02:27 <Zakim> -Kcoyle
16:02:27 <uldis> kcoyle - cheers! :)
16:02:30 <emma> thanks Uldis :-)
16:02:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-minutes.html antoine
16:02:36 <marcia> uldis , great
16:02:38 <antoine> zakim, please list attendees
16:02:38 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been TomB, Antoine, monica, jeff_, Kcoyle, pmurray, +1.330.672.aaaa, uldis, marcia, michaelp, rsinger, kai, emma, kefo, edsu, +49.173.609.aabb,
16:02:41 <Zakim> ... GordonD, jneubert, digikim, Jodi
16:02:44 <jodi> jodi has left #LLD
16:02:57 <Zakim> -Jodi
16:03:03 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:03:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-minutes.html antoine
16:04:05 <uldis> TomB: suggest not to paste actions that are ongoing. rely on running agenda.
16:04:22 <uldis> ... only new or dropped actions need to be recorded
16:05:11 <uldis> emma: i guessed so. recorded it for myself.
16:05:21 <emma> OK ;-)
16:07:16 <Zakim> -uldis
16:07:17 <Zakim> -Antoine
16:07:39 <Zakim> -TomB
16:07:40 <Zakim> -emma
16:27:16 <emma> zakim, bye
16:27:16 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were TomB, Antoine, monica, jeff_, Kcoyle, pmurray, +1.330.672.aaaa, uldis, marcia, michaelp, rsinger, kai, emma, kefo, edsu,
16:27:16 <Zakim> Zakim has left #lld
16:27:19 <Zakim> ... +49.173.609.aabb, GordonD, jneubert, digikim, Jodi
16:27:22 <emma> rrsagent, bye
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> I see 10 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-actions.rdf :
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Gordon and Ross to review use cases in light of migration of legacy data [1]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-18-50
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: TomB to link cluster pages to http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/FinalReportOutline -- done [2]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-19-53
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Antoine and Michael to curate vocabulary alignment cluster for end of December [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action07] [3]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-22-00
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kcoyle to see if Archives cluster reveals problems or limitations -- things missing from the available technology that would make LLD implementable [4]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-42-59
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Gordon and Martin to curate bibliographic data cluster for end of December [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action05] [5]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-47-16
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Curators of Archives and Digital Objects clusters to incorporate Use Case NLL Digitized Map Archive http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Case_NLL_Digitized_Map_Archive [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/01/06-lld-minutes.html#action12] [6]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-51-50
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: GordonD to curate collection cluster [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2011/01/06-lld-minutes.html#action11] [7]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-55-20
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: For each use case curator: on the Vocabularies page (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabularies) link to each URL use case that uses it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action01] [8]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-55-53
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: For each use case curator: on the Vocabularies page (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Vocabularies) link to each URL use case that uses it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23-lld-minutes.html#action01] [9]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-58-25
16:27:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeff to write one or two paragraphs on VIAF design discussions as per http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2010Oct/0107.html[recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html#action06] [10]
16:27:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-lld-irc#T15-59-35