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20:27:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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20:27:02 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WSRA
20:27:02 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
20:27:03 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
20:27:03 <trackbot> Date: 11 January 2011
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20:28:03 <Zakim> WS_WSRA()3:30PM has now started
20:28:12 <Zakim> + +39.331.574.aaaa
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20:29:09 <Bob_> rrsagent, pointer?
20:29:09 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-ws-ra-irc#T20-29-09
20:29:48 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
20:29:55 <asoldano> Zakim, aaaa is asoldano
20:29:56 <Zakim> +asoldano; got it
20:30:05 <W3C> whoami
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20:30:15 <Zakim> +Doug_Davis
20:30:38 <Zakim> + +1.908.696.aabb
20:30:56 <li> zakim, aabb is li
20:30:56 <Zakim> +li; got it
20:31:18 <Zakim> +Tom_Rutt
20:31:23 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:31:27 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
20:31:35 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
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20:32:00 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
20:32:48 <Zakim> +Yves
20:34:07 <dug> zakim, mute Gil
20:34:07 <Zakim> Gilbert_Pilz should now be muted
20:34:26 <dug> zakim, unmute Gil
20:34:26 <Zakim> Gilbert_Pilz should no longer be muted
20:35:53 <Bob_> scribenick: asoldano
20:36:11 <dug> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2011Jan/0033.html
20:36:19 <Bob_> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2011Jan/0033.html
20:36:27 <dug> q+
20:36:36 <dug> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11696
20:36:55 <Bob_> ack dug
20:37:06 <asoldano> dug, can 11696 be added to agenda?
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20:38:14 <asoldano> Bob_, ok, added to the agenda
20:38:37 <asoldano> Bob_, agenda approved
20:38:59 <asoldano> Bob_, minutes http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/12/2011-01-04.html approved
20:39:22 <asoldano> TOPIC: next f2f meeting
20:40:09 <asoldano> Bob_, details for logistic are posted online
20:40:44 <dug> impls:  http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/testing/implementations.html
20:42:40 <asoldano> Bob_, eventing optionality analysis:
20:43:50 <asoldano> Zakim, who is making noise?
20:44:02 <Zakim> asoldano, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Doug_Davis (50%), [Microsoft] (64%)
20:45:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:46:26 <dug> zakim, who is making noise?
20:46:37 <Zakim> dug, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Bob_Freund (43%)
20:46:55 <asoldano> Bob_, xs:dateTime is at risk for wse:expires
20:48:23 <asoldano> Bob_, wse:filter at risk too
20:54:50 <asoldano> ... discussions going on on wse:Reasons, which might be at risk, but it's not that a feature, is an informational element for humans ...
20:55:09 <W3C> +1 to Tom
20:57:19 <asoldano> Bob_, wse:Reason is not at risk
20:57:33 <asoldano> dug, why not removing that from the list of feature that can be at risk?
20:59:36 <asoldano> Bob_, dateTime on risk in both renew and expires
21:00:21 <li> +q
21:00:24 <asoldano> Bob_, Enumeration document has just one implementation
21:00:31 <Bob_> ack li
21:03:43 <asoldano> dug, I can check optional stuff in the spec is up2date
21:04:06 <li> thanks dug
21:04:29 <asoldano> dug, IBM might be able to implement enumeration
21:04:33 <Ram> q+
21:05:10 <Bob_> ack ram
21:05:14 <asoldano> Bob_, there's no requirement for the specs to proceed at the same time
21:05:37 <Ram> q+
21:05:51 <Bob_> ack ram
21:05:51 <asoldano> Bob_, and implementation can come from non w3c members too
21:07:24 <asoldano> Ram, from Microsoft side, nothing would be at risk for enumeration
21:07:47 <asoldano> Bob_, transfer:
21:08:57 <asoldano> dug, propose removing "Support for empty resources" from doc
21:09:03 <asoldano> Bob_, OK
21:10:11 <asoldano> Bob_, fragment: 
21:11:18 <asoldano> Bob_, metadata exchange:
21:14:52 <asoldano> Bob_, once we go to CR, we'll also notify what's at risk
21:16:23 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
21:16:43 <dug> q+
21:16:51 <Zakim> +Gilbert_Pilz
21:17:21 <Bob_> ack dug
21:18:16 <Tom_Rutt> q+
21:18:34 <Bob_> ack tom
21:20:34 <asoldano> TOPIC 11696
21:20:36 <dug> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11696
21:20:37 <dug> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2011Jan/0020.html
21:22:28 <asoldano> dug, this to be solved by having enumeration match evening
21:22:41 <asoldano> Bob_, resolved as proposed
21:23:46 <asoldano> Bob_, woirking group agrees  on incorporation of resolved issues
21:23:56 <asoldano> s/woirking/working
21:24:15 <asoldano> Bob_, any objection to progress all specs to CR?
21:24:20 <asoldano> Bob_, no objection
21:25:17 <asoldano> RESOLUTION: all specs can progress to CR
21:25:43 <Ram> q+
21:25:56 <Bob_> ack ram
21:26:07 <dug> q+
21:26:18 <Bob_> ack dug
21:27:37 <asoldano> dug, what about adding variations/sub-scenarios to the test scenarios?
21:27:54 <Katy> I need to drop off the call early, bye
21:28:20 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
21:30:56 <asoldano> Bob_, propose to just focus on tests now
21:34:11 <asoldano> Bob_, that's all for today
21:34:35 <asoldano> Bob_, next meeting at demand basis
21:35:05 <Zakim> -Tom_Rutt
21:35:09 <Zakim> -Gilbert_Pilz
21:35:09 <asoldano> Bob_, next meeting 25th
21:35:10 <Zakim> -[Oracle]
21:35:10 <Zakim> -Yves
21:35:12 <Zakim> -Bob_Freund
21:35:12 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
21:35:14 <Zakim> -li
21:35:16 <Zakim> -Doug_Davis
21:35:19 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
21:35:20 <Bob_> rrsagent, generate minutes
21:35:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob_
21:35:21 <Zakim> -asoldano
21:35:22 <Zakim> WS_WSRA()3:30PM has ended
21:35:24 <Zakim> Attendees were +39.331.574.aaaa, Bob_Freund, [Oracle], asoldano, Doug_Davis, +1.908.696.aabb, li, Tom_Rutt, [Microsoft], Gilbert_Pilz, Yves, Ashok_Malhotra, [IPcaller]
21:36:29 <asoldano> Bob_, http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/chair-tools/attendance.html is broken in the 2 column of distributed meeting (just FYI)
21:37:21 <Bob_> where is it broken?
21:37:30 <Bob_> ok, I see
21:37:34 <Bob_> thanks
21:37:36 <Bob_> -bob
21:37:36 <asoldano> ;)
21:39:18 <Bob_> better?
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21:47:14 <dug> bob?