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13:58:14 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, this will be inc_ssn
13:58:14 <Zakim> ok, laurent_lefort_cs; I see INC_SSN()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:58:21 <laurent_lefort_cs> Meeting:  SSN XG
13:58:27 <laurent_lefort_cs> Chair: Laurent
13:59:15 <laurent_lefort_cs> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Nov/0013.html
13:59:34 <Zakim> INC_SSN()9:00AM has now started
13:59:50 <Zakim> +??P10
14:00:12 <Payam> zakim, ??p10 is me
14:00:12 <Zakim> +Payam; got it
14:00:18 <laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/10/26-ssn-minutes.html
14:00:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets: Oscar, Raul, Michael, Andriy, Arthur
14:03:17 <Zakim> +??P1
14:03:54 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, ??P1 is me
14:03:54 <Zakim> +laurent_lefort_cs; got it
14:04:54 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Daylight saving time changes
14:08:46 <laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Payam
14:08:55 <cory> cory has joined #ssn
14:09:32 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aaaa
14:10:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> New regime is 1:00 am and 8:00 pm in Australia.
14:10:29 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, .aaaa is Cory 
14:10:29 <Zakim> sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '.aaaa'
14:11:03 <cory> zakim, +1.937.775.aaaa is me
14:11:03 <Zakim> +cory; got it
14:12:04 <Payam> Laurent, suggested an eariler time to have more participants
14:12:15 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... from Australia
14:13:08 <Payam> Laurent, another option is having two calls in a week
14:13:39 <Payam> Laurent: a possible time could be 9:00 GMT
14:16:14 <Payam> Laurent: sugessting another meeting in a different time on the same day
14:16:39 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... At 9.00 for East coast
14:16:51 <Payam> Laurent: will send an announcement about this
14:17:16 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: CSIRO questionnaire open to SSN XG participants
14:17:20 <Payam> this will be for a couple of weeks for wrap up
14:17:39 <Payam> [this] new time changes and calls
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14:18:31 <laurent_lefort_cs> Doug is running a survey on the type of sensor networks we want to develop at CSIRO. We already have a good sample of CSIRO results, with a slightly different questionnaire (which in some cases contain commercially sensitive information). 
14:18:31 <laurent_lefort_cs> We would like to open this survey to the SSN XG community (participants and followers/partners) to collect a different range of answers. This survey should help us rejuvenate the interest of our CSIRO sponsors, to better assess the priorities of a wider community and also to plan the follow-up activities of the XG.
14:18:31 <laurent_lefort_cs> The survey will be open until the 5th of December but please answer as soon as you can.
14:19:05 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SSNXG
14:20:30 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: completion of pending tasks
14:21:22 <Payam> Cory, will send their updates regarding the examples
14:21:32 <Payam> Cory, will add to the conclusion sections
14:22:03 <Payam> Laurent and cory, to complete the semantic mark-up section
14:22:13 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/and cory//
14:24:16 <Payam> Laurent: MMI ontology and using it
14:26:11 <Payam> Cory: there are some concetps that we need to borrow from other ontologies (the experience of creating examples)
14:27:02 <Payam> Laurent: using ontolgies such as MMI will encourage users to use the ontology
14:27:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/ontolgies/ontologies/
14:31:12 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/concetps/concepts/
14:33:22 <Payam> We can use concepts from other ontologies but we don't need to integrate or align the two ontologies (MMI and SSN)
14:35:57 <Payam> Payam: to update conclusion sections
14:36:38 <Payam> Payam: to check the example - Laurent has fixed the data type mistake in the example
14:36:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: working with Christian (Uni Muenster) on SensorML example using the SSN XG URI instead of URNs
14:37:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Laurent
14:38:21 <Payam> I have to leave now
14:38:36 <Payam> speak to you next week
14:38:54 <Zakim> -Payam
14:39:59 <Pramod> amit@knoesis.org
14:40:34 <cory> can you also send them here: cory@knoesis.org
14:44:52 <cory> http://wiki.knoesis.org/index.php/Provenir_Ontology
15:07:28 <Zakim> -cory
15:08:04 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
15:08:17 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:08:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/23-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:10:50 <Zakim> -laurent_lefort_cs
15:10:50 <Zakim> INC_SSN()9:00AM has ended
15:10:51 <Zakim> Attendees were Payam, laurent_lefort_cs, cory
15:11:55 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: discussion of Laurent's presentations at OGC meeting
15:13:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> Discussion with Cory and Amit on the DRAFT slides for the first presentation
15:15:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... To do: complete the provenance part (ontology, example of query, ...) 
15:15:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... To do better separate the SSN ontology and the domain ontologies used for the example
15:15:52 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... in this case the Meteorology domain
15:15:57 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:15:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/23-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:16:52 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/discussion of//
15:17:27 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/amit@knoesis./amit at knoesis dot/
15:17:44 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/cory@knoesis./cory at knoesis dot/
15:17:48 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:17:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/23-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:18:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/SSN XG URI/SSN XG URIs/
15:18:33 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/eariler/earlier/
15:18:55 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/sugessting/suggesting/
15:18:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:18:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/23-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:20:54 <laurent_lefort_cs> Discussion on the second persentaation objectives
15:21:38 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... explain differences of perspective between XG products and current OGC practice 
15:22:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/explain diff/goal is to explain diff/
15:22:33 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/persentaation/presentation/
15:22:38 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:22:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/23-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:23:32 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/will encourage users to use the ontology/may encourage users to use the ontology/
15:24:22 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/we don't need to integrate/we won't integrate/
15:24:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:24:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/23-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:24:56 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please generate minutes
15:24:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/23-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:26:52 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, bye
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15:26:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, bye
15:26:59 <RRSAgent> I see no action items