IRC log of html-a11y on 2010-10-21

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00:01:52 [MikeSmith]

janina, judy - OK, I have it reverted now

00:02:31 [MikeSmith]

RRSAgent, bye

00:02:31 [RRSAgent]

I see no action items

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-irc

14:59:57 [janina]

zakim, this will be WAI_PFWG(HTML

14:59:57 [Zakim]

ok, janina, I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM already started

15:00:05 [janina]

zakim, call janina

15:00:05 [Zakim]

ok, janina; the call is being made

15:00:07 [Zakim]

+Janina

15:00:12 [eric_carlson]

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15:00:28 [janina]

zakim, mute me

15:00:28 [Zakim]

Janina should now be muted

15:00:34 [Zakim]

+Gregory_Rosmaita

15:00:35 [janina]

zakim, who's here?

15:00:36 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

15:00:38 [Zakim]

On the phone I see John_Foliot, Janina (muted), Gregory_Rosmaita, [IPcaller]

15:00:42 [Zakim]

On IRC I see JF, eric_carlson, RRSAgent, Zakim, jongund, oedipus, MikeSmith, MichaelC, janina, sideshow, trackbot

15:00:51 [Zakim]

+Eric_Carlson

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+Michael_Cooper

15:01:00 [janina]

zakim, drop janina

15:01:03 [Zakim]

Janina is being disconnected

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-Janina

15:01:23 [janina]

zakim, call janina

15:01:27 [Zakim]

ok, janina; the call is being made

15:01:28 [MichaelC]

zakim, ipcaller is Everett_Zufelt

15:01:29 [Zakim]

+Janina

15:01:33 [Zakim]

+Everett_Zufelt; got it

15:01:35 [Zakim]

+??P12

15:01:49 [jongund]

zakim, ??P12 is jongund

15:01:49 [Zakim]

+jongund; got it

15:02:31 [janina]

Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon

15:02:32 [janina]

Chair: Mike

15:02:32 [janina]

agenda: this

15:02:32 [janina]

agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List

15:02:32 [janina]

agenda+ Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open

15:02:32 [janina]

agenda+ clarify proper handling of ARIA issues vs. ARIA-in-HTML mapping

15:02:34 [janina]

agenda+ Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; Media; Canvas; ARIA Mappings

15:02:36 [janina]

agenda+ next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe

15:02:38 [janina]

agenda+ be done

15:02:40 [janina]

15:02:43 [Marco_Ranon]

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15:02:46 [Zakim]

+kliehm

15:03:27 [janina]

zakim, who's here?

15:03:27 [Zakim]

On the phone I see John_Foliot, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Everett_Zufelt, Eric_Carlson, Michael_Cooper, jongund, kliehm

15:03:29 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Marco_Ranon, kliehm, JF, eric_carlson, RRSAgent, Zakim, jongund, oedipus, MikeSmith, MichaelC, janina, sideshow, trackbot

15:03:58 [Zakim]

+Marco_Ranon

15:05:00 [oedipus]

zakim, who's noisy?

15:05:11 [Zakim]

oedipus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Cooper (56%), Marco_Ranon (39%)

15:05:14 [Marco_Ranon]

Zakim, mute me

15:05:14 [Zakim]

Marco_Ranon should now be muted

15:06:12 [Marco_Ranon]

ok

15:06:20 [Marco_Ranon]

no worries

15:06:31 [oedipus]

scribe: Marco_Ranon

15:06:40 [oedipus]

scribenick: Marco_Ranon

15:07:20 [kliehm]

zakim, move to agendum 2

15:07:20 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina]

15:08:28 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus

15:09:32 [Marco_Ranon]

MC: all action are complete

15:09:48 [kliehm]

zakim, move to agendum 3

15:09:48 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "clarify proper handling of ARIA issues vs. ARIA-in-HTML mapping" taken up [from janina]

15:10:08 [Marco_Ranon]

JS: deadline for AIRA. not strictly HTML matter but there is the mapping to HTML5

15:10:12 [Zakim]

+Cynthia_Shelly

15:10:21 [kliehm]

s/AIRA/ARIA/

15:10:41 [oedipus]

regrets+ Laura_Carlson,Joshue_O'Connor,Sylvia_Pfieffer,Denis_Boudreau,Kenny_Johar

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15:11:06 [Marco_Ranon]

JS: if anybody want to raise questions, bear in mind that the mapping is a separate process

15:11:30 [MikeSmith]

Zakim, call Mike-good

15:11:30 [Zakim]

I am sorry, MikeSmith; I do not know a number for Mike-good

15:11:33 [MikeSmith]

Zakim, call Mike-goog

15:11:33 [Zakim]

ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made

15:11:34 [Zakim]

+Mike

15:11:56 [MikeSmith]

Zakim, drop Mike

15:11:56 [Zakim]

Mike is being disconnected

15:11:58 [Zakim]

-Mike

15:12:03 [MikeSmith]

Zakim, call Mike

15:12:03 [Zakim]

ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made

15:12:05 [Zakim]

+Mike

15:12:21 [MikeSmith]

RRSAgent, make minutes

15:12:21 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith

15:12:36 [Marco_Ranon]

JS: if somebody is looking at ARIA, be aware that there is a deadline coming in a week time

15:13:14 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: did we decide what process should be followed?

15:13:19 [oedipus]

agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0546.html

15:13:35 [MichaelC]

-> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/comments/instructions ARIA comment instructions

15:14:39 [oedipus]

public-pfwg-comments@w3.org

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments

15:15:17 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: for clarity, comments about ARIA specs for semantic, etc, go to the PF, using the form (currently down)

15:16:41 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: issues related to use of ARIA attributes in HTML, should go through the HTML bug reporting procedure

15:17:04 [oedipus]

HTML WG bugzilla entry form: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=HTML%20WG

15:17:24 [kliehm]

List of HTML5 ARIA bugs: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=aria

15:17:29 [kliehm]

zakim, move to agendum 4

15:17:29 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; Media; Canvas; ARIA Mappings" taken up [from janina]

15:18:15 [oedipus]

minutes of 2010-10-19 bug triage team meeting: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0519.html

15:18:39 [Marco_Ranon]

MK: Bug Triage, we checked a number of bugs adding the a11ytf keyword

15:18:59 [Marco_Ranon]

MK: at TPAC we should decide what to do next and how to proceed next

15:19:31 [Marco_Ranon]

I'll be there

15:19:35 [oedipus]

GJR will be there virtually

15:19:48 [Marco_Ranon]

MR, MK, MC will be at TPAC

15:20:56 [Marco_Ranon]

JF: Media, met yesterday after three weeks

15:20:58 [oedipus]

media sub-team telecon minutes from 20 October 2010: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0539.html

15:21:24 [Marco_Ranon]

JF: concern about integration of media text in HTML specs

15:21:50 [kliehm]

rrsagent, make minutes

15:21:50 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html kliehm

15:22:03 [oedipus]

media: spec text additions update from janina: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0524.html

15:22:14 [Marco_Ranon]

JS: we need to file bugs regarding reference to WebSRT

15:22:48 [Marco_Ranon]

JS: we are looking at timestamp format and multiple tracks

15:25:40 [Marco_Ranon]

JF: WebSRT is currently into the draft so we can file bugs

15:25:44 [kliehm]

zakim, who's on the phone?

15:25:44 [Zakim]

On the phone I see John_Foliot, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Everett_Zufelt, Eric_Carlson, Michael_Cooper, jongund, kliehm (muted), Marco_Ranon (muted), Cynthia_Shelly, Mike

15:25:51 [kliehm]

rrsagent, make minutes

15:25:51 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html kliehm

15:26:14 [oedipus]

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#timed-tracks-0

15:26:20 [oedipus]

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#websrt-cue-text-rendering-rules

15:26:23 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: Canvas, skip because Richard is not on

15:26:27 [oedipus]

http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#applying-css-properties-to-websrt-node-objects

15:26:37 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: ARIA mapping, already discussed, nothing to add

15:26:57 [JF]

http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/

15:27:13 [oedipus]

http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/results

15:27:15 [Marco_Ranon]

JF: poll for canvas expirtes today

15:27:33 [oedipus]

table summary poll: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-32-objection-poll/ closes today

15:27:51 [oedipus]

table summary poll: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-32-objection-poll/results

15:28:15 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: not many responses

15:28:50 [kliehm]

s/expirtes/expires/

15:29:00 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: anybody that hasn't responded yet, please take your time to respond to the poll if you have anything you want to say about canvas

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15:30:24 [oedipus]

frankoliver, could you please review and respond to http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/

15:30:36 [frankolivier]

will do

15:30:40 [oedipus]

thanks

15:30:46 [Marco_Ranon]

CS: please ask directly to who could be interested to answer, to do so

15:31:01 [kliehm]

zakim, move to agendum 5

15:31:01 [Zakim]

agendum 5. "next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe" taken up [from janina]

15:31:08 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: both canvas and table summary

15:31:43 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: meeitng next wekk?

15:31:51 [oedipus]

MikeSmith, when is the publishing TPAC moritorium in effect?

15:32:13 [MikeSmith]

oedipus, can't remember for sure

15:32:17 [MikeSmith]

will check right now

15:32:20 [Marco_Ranon]

JS: we should meet, even if we are close to TPAC

15:32:44 [Marco_Ranon]

JF: would like to participate virtually.

15:32:58 [Marco_Ranon]

MS: we can discuss it formally next week

15:33:41 [Marco_Ranon]

AOB

15:33:54 [Marco_Ranon]

CS: call for help for mapping work

15:33:57 [oedipus]

TOPIC: New Business

15:34:18 [Marco_Ranon]

JF: what kind of help

15:34:39 [Marco_Ranon]

CS: HTML: check the document and make suggestions

15:35:03 [Marco_Ranon]

CS: ARIA mapping: go through issues raised on the document

15:35:14 [Marco_Ranon]

CS to send links to documents

15:36:21 [Zakim]

-Cynthia_Shelly

15:36:23 [MikeSmith]

Zakim, drop Mike

15:36:23 [Zakim]

Mike is being disconnected

15:36:23 [Zakim]

-Mike

15:36:24 [Zakim]

-jongund

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-Everett_Zufelt

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-Eric_Carlson

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-Michael_Cooper

15:36:27 [Marco_Ranon]

zakim, unmute me

15:36:27 [Zakim]

-John_Foliot

15:36:28 [Zakim]

Marco_Ranon should no longer be muted

15:36:30 [Zakim]

-Janina

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-kliehm

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-Gregory_Rosmaita

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-Marco_Ranon

15:36:49 [Zakim]

WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended

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Attendees were John_Foliot, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Eric_Carlson, Michael_Cooper, Everett_Zufelt, jongund, kliehm, Marco_Ranon, Cynthia_Shelly, Mike

15:36:56 [oedipus]

zakim, please part

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15:37:01 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus

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15:54:42 [RRSAgent]

I see no action items